ekaton: Why f1.4 for a wide lens? For light gathering ability? But sensor sensitivities take sufficiently care of this these days, at much lower cost. For dof control? This is limited with a wide lens anyway - get a longer lens for real dof control. Just because they can? So it seems.
Sounds like what you need is an 18-200 lens and call it a day.
Just for fun I replaced the EOS 700D with 7D mk II, seems like the T6i/s have weaker AA filter which is a good thing at 24MP. The studio comparison looks much more promising than the earlier real world samples.
Everlast66: Sony A6000 looks way better than any of these two and is at the end of its life-cycle waiting to be replaced.
Justifying your purchase of A6000? LOL
vesa1tahti: D7200 is the clear winner. Cheers.
D7200 is very slightly smoother at high iso, but nothing significant. I wouldn't call it a clear winner.
noflashplease: I can't imagine anyone buying a new Canon Rebel on the basis of these photos. For some reason, I'm seeing soft images, so I don't know if it's a lens issue, or a focus issue? The dynamic range and noise are also horrific for 2015.
Don't say that - I just said the same thing and I got lectured by the fanboys. Somehow we could not expect better IQ from a $849 DSLR? That's not right ;) As a matter of fact, I've seen much better outputs from other 24MP APS cameras. But hey, if Canon makes it then it has to be it!
I've been waiting for reviews and samples from the T6s but the images aren't really sharp here. The building photo taken with the 16-35 IS is unbelievably soft. Strong AA filter? bad lens sample?
I could be wrong, but I think X-T10 produces better JPG than X-T1.
Shiranai: Still missing the WOW-factor from this camera.But here we go again in the megapixel race rather than developing towards lower noise.Apparently some people need it to print silver screen-sized posters...I don't.
You'll get the wow you deserve with a Leica M, esp the Limited Editions (Hermes or Lenny Kravitz' esp) like "Wow you're rich!" - or with a Hassy Lunar for "Wow you're an idiot!".
LukeDuciel: is it me or D810 does look very similar in terms of detail resolution vs. 5DsR?
I am staring at the green faux feature stuff at ISO100.
if this is true, then ... thinking about the price D810 would be at when 5DsR actually hits the stores.
Based on the conversation here, the Canon 85/1.8 is inferior to the Nikkor AFS 85/1.4G yet the comparison shows that 5DSR renders more fine details than the Nikon. Check out fine patterns on the bill/note. I'll take the EF 85/1.8 at less than $400, thanks. That's enough fine details for me.
People who need this camera don't need the 'wow' factors. It's the photographer that gives the wow factors, not the camera.
RichRMA: You want realism, the Olympus HR mode is still the best. See the cheek on the women on the right in the image? See the lines on her face in the Canon and Nikon images? Guess what? The lines don't exist! It's a gross artifact in the Canon AND the Nikon. The Olympus offers the only true rendition of the image. If your subject is static, the Olympus is the best solution. Also, the idea that the Canon has an edge because it can shoot moving subjects, hand-held? Well, you'll likely never see 50mp resolution doing that, if you are lucky, you might preserve 30mp, because of the ridiculous shutter speeds you need to preserve details at 50mp.
Some of the photographers I know do shoot the 645Z handheld in good light.
I'm always confused why Oly fanboys must always do some marketing in every thread about other brands. Chill out, just because Canon can take 50MP in a single shot doesn't mean Oly will go bankrupt soon.
photogeek: Things are not as bad as I thought they would be. Color me impressed. OTOH, I do not believe that many lenses in Canon lineup can actually get anywhere close to the resolution of this sensor. They will have to overhaul their entire lens lineup.
Dpreview uses 85/1.8, so most of the primes and latest zooms should do just fine.
RichRMA: Finally something comparable to the E-M5II in HR mode. More or less.
sans the tripod and static subjects of course
Nice to know EF 85/1.8 being an old design still performs admirably well on 5DSR!
Which Canon lenses are you using now?
The joke's on Hasselblad for sure.
KL Matt: 33 images and not a single one tells us anything much about this lense's bokeh. I don't know about you, but if I'm gonna plunk down nearly 500 bucks for a fast prime lens, I'm absolutely going to want to know how it renders out-of-focus areas before I make a purchase. Yes, even if it's a wide angle, and yes, even if I do need to place my camera close to a foreground object. And yes, I do shoot that way with my wide angle lenses in the field and it's fun and can result in very pleasing and interesting images.
Thematic, you clearly don't know anything about WA lenses. I often used my 28 Elmarit ASPH for half-body portrait, and even at this distance the bokeh is there - certainly not tele-type bokeh but defocused background looks nice. It's considered the character of a lens.
It's a good opportunity IF you are a working Pro under 21...