I had a Hasselblad X Pan once. It was a rebadged Fuji sold in Europe under the Hasselblad name. I didn´t care. I don´t think anyone who bought an X Pan cared because they were good cameras, built like tanks, that did something unique and, crucially, were priced at a level that reflected what they were - a good quality albeit niche pro camera. This on the other hand just makes me sad. If Russian oligarchs and footballers and whoever else has enough money to consider this want to be this, fair enough, it´s their business, not mine. But it makes me sad that a company who were once noted for rugged utility should now be aiming at the novelty market.
lorenzo de medici: This looks like a great camera. I don't like the current trend of putting old fashioned round dials on the tops of cameras. The old round dials 30 years ago were mechanical devices. These are just pointless imitations, all the workings are electronic. Ergonomics should take priority over fashion in a serious camera. I can easily adjust aperture, ISO, shutter speed, exposure compensation, metering, and focus mode on my Nikon D600 without taking my eye from the viewfinder. And there are no odd bumps between my finger and the shutter button.
I think everyone Ive seen in the wild with a Fuji x has been under forty I´d say. I suppose with the ad hominem mode of argument that makes them hipsters instead of codgers.
I´m a photographer in my thirties (not twenties but closer to that than my 60s) and I greatly prefer dials for my style of photography. I not the only one. The aperture dials are in a great place to change with an eye to the viewfinder because they are where your hand, or at least my hand , falls on the lens. I´ve never once felt that the interface of my Fuji X or my old film rangefinders was harder to use than the modern DSLRs I used at the same time. I don´t think the modern DSLR stye interface is a question of being modern and therefore better. Its just a question of a different fashion. Assuming modern automatically equals better is the same fallacy as nostalgically asuming the reverse. I think most people would easily adapt to either after a couple of hours without problems. IT also largely depends on your shooting style.
When are people going to get over expressing preferences as some kind of hard fact?
Allen Yang: I can't understand why people would buy Fuji SLRs since it doesn't have as many lens as Canon or Nikon system. In addition, its camera bodies are much less competitive than Canon or Nikon cameras.
Well actually I think if you look specifically at APS-C, the Fuji lens line up is very competitive. There are plenty of gaps in Nikon's DX line up that they are in no hurry to fill. At the moment my lens needs are pretty satisfied. Also it's not a DSLR. Fuji don't make them any more.
novak977: amazing how A7 is ignored while being MUCH better value being FF for just a bit more money. for example EVF is a bit smaller but it is not even shown here along with other cameras.This is nice but APS-C camera, with lot of useful features but nothing really exciting, nothing that can give you FF experience on budget.
There is nothing in the sony system that can give me the experience of using a native 21mm equivalent f2.8 lens for landscape photography which personally why IM ignoring the A7 for the time being. Sensor size is only component of photography and at the sizes I print at, not overly important. The dof thing isnt such a big draw either with those f4 lenses.
attomole: I really like the look of this camera and sure it will perform, but I'm unconvinced by the controls, i would have liked to see a position on the Shutter speed and aperture to use the command dials to set the exposure, thus affording easier control without taking your eye from the finder and use 1/3 stop increments.
So Fuji have nave a camera that for looks I want to buy, but when I put it next to s 70D or a D7100 (or Pentax K?) the performance real world handling and accessory line up is going to be decisive , add in a couple of lenses, particularly the 56 1.2 vs 80 1.8, and even full frame starts to look competitive
I read on Fujirumors a hands-on that implied you can chose to change shutter or aperture via the command dial. Not havign used it I obviously don´t know if that´s correct. But certainly, you have always been able to set 1/3 stop increments on Fuji´s to fine tune the setting on the dial.
Sean65: Seems to me that Sony, Olympus,Fuji et al all started to grab market share by producing small cute cameras but are now slowing growing into small SLR cameras.
Lets face facts here, if you're serious about photography and want serious features you also want a camera that is comfortable to hold. and that is exactly why SLR design is so good.
Maybe we're seeing the end of cute retro at last.
I love all these "if you don´t like the cameras I like you´re not serious about photography posts". A Fuji X Pro is the same size as a Leica M9. Is that not a serious camera? What If I just happen to like using rangefinders? Am I not serious either? I´ve never once had a problem holding my non-SLR style Fuji. Seriousness doesn´t come into it.
justmeMN: Fuwho? :-)
(In the USA, they are a pretty obscure brand.)
Well first of all I don´t live in the USA so thats not really very relevant to me. Out and about I see plenty of cameras that people on DPR are always telling me are "obscure" like Olympus or Pentax or Fuji, so I can only assume that what´s obscure in one place isn´t in others.
Secondly considering Fujifilm were pretty famous for their films, particularly slide films like Provia and Velvia which were used by most of my photographic heroes and some cases still are, you´d have to know very little about the history of photography to consider Fuji "obscure". And I´m in my mid thirties and younger than most people on this site it seems so I´m not nostalgically harking back to some distant era either. I´m talking about 10 years ago.
Thirdly, my X Pro is a niche product. I bought it because it was a niche I was interested in. A niche product is always going to be less popular. So what? Does it make it less useful or mean my photos self destruct after a few weeks or something?
marike6: Do the mushy greens and heavy NR come standard? :-)
But seriously, it's all well and good to make another APS-C camera but with DSLR styling, but unless the RAW conversion issues with Lightroom are sorted (which they really aren't as of yet), it's going to be tough for RAW shooters to get excited about this body.
Doing command line RAW processing with dcraw or investing in yet another converter like Capture One is not all that appealing. Nor is shooting 8-bit JPEGs.
I have none of those problems with my X Pro and I´m not undemanding. RAW conversion has been much improved, even with Lightroom. And I ONLY shoot RAW and most of the time I use ACR.
pew pew: sexy camera but 1800$.....
That price is probably wrong. Rumour sites are now saying 1200. It was a mis conversion from the Japan price that seems to have been spread around the internet...
photobeans: Wow..sexy, but FUJI lenses are wallet busters. Still, do want.
Except Yabokkie you are almost literally the only person on this planet, whether customer, professional reviewer or random internet pundit who says that Fuji lenses are anything but good, making yours a fringe opinion that doesn´t match the empirical evidence, on a par with, say, the Ancient Astronaut hypothesis of pyramid construction or the existence of the Loch Ness Monster.
The only lens I have had any problems with was the 18mm, which I do consider quite poor incidentally, at least for my uses. Every other lens I´ve used has been excellent (14mm, 35mm and 60mm) and on a par with any lens I´ve used from any manufacturer (and I´ve used excellent lenses from Nikon, Hasselblad and Voigtlander). Perhaps you´d like to tell us what lenses you have used and in what circumstances so we can evaluate your claims since they are pretty revolutionary? And I´m far from a fanboy of any brand BTW. I just trust my eyes and the evidence.
Smeggypants: this has to be one of the saddest reviews I've seen. Life is too short to sweat about ball heads.
Yes, because tripods are totally irrelevant to photography, right?. I need a decent tripod a lot more than I need high ISO or lightning fast AF or half the things people round here worry about----
vFunct: Only talented people can use this camera.
Untalented people have to use Sony or Canon or Olympus.
Also, it is a mark of amateurs to use cute baby mirror less cameras.
Aww how cute - a newb photographer with a mirror less camera!
Maybe one day the mirror less camera photographer will grow up and use a Reflex system like the big boys do.
Yay! We're rooting for you, cute little mirror less camera kiddos!
I've used cameras ranging from large format to nikon d2x to hasselblad xpan rangefinder and now I use a fuji x pro1. Why? Because I know a decent amount about photography and based on that I decided it was bext for me. You dont like mirror less? Great, but save us the kindergarten stuff
RRJackson: There's good and bad here.
The weight is a big deal. My old Olympus OM-2n weighed 18 oz. My D700 weighs 35 oz. This new Nikon weighs 25 oz. So actually closer to the OM-2n than the D700.
The grip doesn't look all that comfortable. I made do without for decades shooting with an OM-2n, but when I go back to those cameras now I miss having a comfortable grip.
The lack of interchangeable focusing screens is puzzling in a camera like this.
The locking controls are nice. Reminds me of my F5.
The price is higher than expected, but still lower than my D700 was when it was released.
Overall it seems like an excellent effort, but hopefully just the start of a move towards smaller, lighter, more practical cameras with the functionality of the film cameras Nikon was so good at building. Maybe bring back the match-needle metering of the FM3A. There's nothing better than the swing of a needle to visually tell you where your exposure is going.
Im 35 and fit and I spent a lot of the summer in Iceland, hiking, carrying equipment around, camping, climbing mountains and crossing difficult terrain. And guess what? Weight matters. Heavy backpacks hurt sooner. Lets use our imaginations and assume people have different needs. Most of my low light stuff is tripod based long exposures at base ISO but im not going to say high ISO is useless, for example
Clueless Wanderer: ..The body position and everything about the shot seem to not be staged and genuine.BUT. The guy is pretty damn clean to say he has just risen out of a trench held down by gun fire. Not even a spot of dirt on his knees or shirt. Hmm...
In Andalucia in September the weather is pretty dry, so no mud, and the soil tends to be chalky and often light coloured. It´s powdery so it comes off easily. I´ve spent a lot of time hillwalking and the like round here and sure a lot of the time I´ve ended up with dirt on my trousers BUT I´m not sure I´d look dirty enough in a photo for it to show obviously. Like Christian said, it´s not the same conditions as the Somme round here. Maybe in the winter rainy period it would be different but this was September, still the tail end of the long, dry mediterranean summer.
ogl: Relax, guys! DPREVIEW is not independent reviewer for many years already. They just help to sell camera of their owners. It's business and nothing else.Dpreview is sold to Amazon on 2007.
"He who pays the piper calls the tune".
Or I just made my decision based on the kind of camera I like to use - previously I had a Hasselblad X Pan and a Bessa R2 and I like to use a camera with the option of an OVF with framelines and manual controls and I don´t give a rats backside about video or AF speed since they have little relevance to how I shoot. Is it so difficult to accept to some people that other people have different priorities to them? I hope the photos you take with your Ricoh show more imagination than your arguments here.....
WilliamJ: Too bad this little gem does not include an IBIS. It would be a killer as a lot of lenses already avaible could then become usable. Is IBIS incompatible with the X-Trans CMOS sensor ? Could be...
or IBIS is just patented technology and they haven´t found a way round it? The roadmap zooms all feature OIS. Most companies don´t use IBIS. It would be nice to have, though personally my own experiences have been mixed. (admittedly not with using better examples like that of the latest Oly)
ManuelVilardeMacedo: I use OM lenses on my Olympus E-P1; thus I've become tolerant to some amount of softness in photographs. After seeing the Raw studio scene comparison, however, I found the sofness in the Fuji images completely unacceptable. Many have shared their perplexity for this lack of sharpness in a camera with such an innovative sensor, and now it's my turn to wonder.Add to that the difficulty in demosaicing Fuji's Raw files, which means no third-party image edition software programme has achieved completely satisfactory results yet with Fuji's Raws (though Adobe has come closer this time), and what you have, at the end of the day, is an overpriced body that is supposed to be complemented with very expensive lenses.It is really a shame, because I love this camera. It is absolutely gorgeous and appeals to people like me, who lived the rangefinder glory days. I really hope Fujifilm solves these issues, because a camera this beautiful deserves success.
Neither the review nor the camera are flawed. DPR produce comparison images at default settings. Adobe use very low default sharpening settings with Fuji RAWs. Therefore any images using those default settings will look blurry. This is DPRs standard methodology. Not a flaw. Silkypix and Capture One and indeed Adobe once people can be bothered moving the sliders all produce Fuji files with excellent detail and resolution. This is discussed by DPr themselves at great length and in many places on the net. What´s more likely? a vast conspiracy by Fuji, fanboys and expert reviewers to praise across the board the detail and IQ of Fuji cameras or what I´ve described above? But then who needs the experience of real users and reviewers eh? you know best. And no I´m not a fanboy, it just annoys me when people spout and repeat things that are demonstrably, empirically false. Same with creationists and climate change deniers.
That´s one possibility. Another is that people who have actually used a camera for long enough to make an in depth review might have a different opinion than people who haven´t used it. Let´s use Occam´s razor here and decide which one is more likely. Why would Fuji have more influence with Amazon than Canon or Nikon or Olympus?
Mike99999: To me the Fuji X-series is a case of the emperors new clothes. They basically take a Nikon D3100 or a Canon t2i, put it inside a shinier body, and sell it as if it's the greatest new thing. It is a pretty standard APS-C camera.
First of all the images look mushy at ISO 200. It doesn't look nearly as good as a D7000 or OM-D.
Second are the lenses. Everyone is hyping these lenses, as good as Leica, etc... Why? These Fuji lenses are really overrated. The corner softness is so bad I often think these are re-branded Sigma lenses.
If compactness is an issue, Olympus is convincing me better. If compactness is not an issue, Nikon and Canon get you more for less money. It just doesn't look as shiny.
Except the lenses and IQ are actually pretty good. I know because I´ve used an X Pro for several months. I´ve also used cameras by Minolta, Hasselblad, Nikon and Olympus. I´m not a fan boy. In fact I find fan boy-ism psycholigcally baffling. But the lenses are pretty good for the price though the 17mm is a bit of a weak link compared to to the 14mm, 35mm and 60mm (zoom I haven´t used). Perhaps you´d like to say specifically which Sigma lens designs they are based on giving evidence for your reasons? Or are perhaps we are just yanking everyone´s chain and wasting time because someone doesn´t have anything better to do? It´s amazing how people have to justify their own life choices by refusing to accept anyone can choose something different. Must be an existential thing. Anyway, since it´s a nice day here in Seville and my work is closed for the Andalucia day holiday I´m going to take my X Pro and take some photos. Rather than comment meaninglessly on cameras I´ve never used.