"However, entry-level DSLRs still offer a very attractive and polished photographic tool - and with continuous autofocus behavior that no mirrorless camera has come close to matching " Excuse me? Continuous AF is what mirrorless cameras excel in, and where DSLRs have lagged. While I'm sure the 3200 will take some great pictures, its AF is not going to be a match for some mirrorless systems. DP, what are you thinking?
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Posted on Apr 29, 2012 at 21:24:32 UTC
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duartix: It's very interesting how to see how most people commenting here don't have a clue as to:
* this being a video camera that will trash most DSLR's video in IQ.
* this being targeted at both independent film making / TV production and not DSLR users
* how this product has characteristics that usually cost 5 digits to gather
* how this product will be disruptive to the professional video market
Having said that, please stop comparing it to the D800 and try to pay more attention to John Brawley 's posts because he's one of the few posters who knows what he's talking about since he has tested it.
Amen, brother.
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Posted on Apr 18, 2012 at 04:43:00 UTC
whawha: I find it astounding that in 2012 a £2000 camera can perform so atrociously above ISO 400. Is that worth the extra resolution it might, perhaps, give when pixel peeping at base ISO? ISO 1600 and up actually look like some cheesy noise plugin has been applied to the image.The Sigma team must be on crack.
And they have better cameras to choose from. Why are so many people making excuses for a camera that only produces good pictures a fraction of the time? There are many superior cameras, less expensive ones, and older models. It seems the Sigma produces mediocre stuff that photographers have to fix. I'm all for post-processing - we did it with film - but this sounds like far too much work that the camera should have taken care of in the first place.
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Posted on Apr 11, 2012 at 02:19:38 UTC
FredW: To me, there's a bigger issue here. I'm ok with the orbing levels of my Jan 2012 x10 but I would not be ok with the x10 orbing levels I've seen in many of the online postings here and elsewhere.
It appears that there has been a significant, unpublished sensor change or sensor batch variance. I think this helps also to explain the split on the forum regarding the x10. The x10s are performing at different levels depending on when they were produced.
The fourth wave: Finally, a camera that gives me the orbs I want!
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Posted on Feb 27, 2012 at 00:50:10 UTC
Josh152: Even if you never see an orb you have still been knowingly sold a defective camera at an obscenely high price by Fuji who wont even openly admit the problem exists and who even mocked their own customers over the issue. In the end that is all that matters. This type of behavior should not be rewarded with loyalty or your hard earned money.
Even if you love the X10 you should not be defending it or Fuji. You are just encouraging and excusing bad behavior.
We need to hold Fuji accountable for their actions regardless of what you think of the X10.
Josh, you're right. Consumers can like it, but defending Fuji's actions is ridiculous.
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Posted on Feb 27, 2012 at 00:33:42 UTC
carsten böttcher: "reflects new production efficiencies... will result in a substantial reduction in the camera’s market price..." or better said "massive price reduction because SD1 doesn't sell as expected" means someone's woken up to get the Foveon investment back. Hope the DPs will have better IQ than the horrible SD1.
Totally agree.
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Posted on Feb 11, 2012 at 07:18:54 UTC
"However, entry-level DSLRs still offer a very attractive and polished photographic tool - and with continuous autofocus behavior that no mirrorless camera has come close to matching " Excuse me? Continuous AF is what mirrorless cameras excel in, and where DSLRs have lagged. While I'm sure the 3200 will take some great pictures, its AF is not going to be a match for some mirrorless systems. DP, what are you thinking?
duartix: It's very interesting how to see how most people commenting here don't have a clue as to:
* this being a video camera that will trash most DSLR's video in IQ.
* this being targeted at both independent film making / TV production and not DSLR users
* how this product has characteristics that usually cost 5 digits to gather
* how this product will be disruptive to the professional video market
Having said that, please stop comparing it to the D800 and try to pay more attention to John Brawley 's posts because he's one of the few posters who knows what he's talking about since he has tested it.
Amen, brother.
I WANT ONE!
There are SO MANY cameras that can produce great shots at low ISO in studio settings. SO WHAT? For this much money, it is simply not a good camera.
whawha: I find it astounding that in 2012 a £2000 camera can perform so atrociously above ISO 400.
Is that worth the extra resolution it might, perhaps, give when pixel peeping at base ISO?
ISO 1600 and up actually look like some cheesy noise plugin has been applied to the image.The Sigma team must be on crack.
And they have better cameras to choose from. Why are so many people making excuses for a camera that only produces good pictures a fraction of the time? There are many superior cameras, less expensive ones, and older models. It seems the Sigma produces mediocre stuff that photographers have to fix. I'm all for post-processing - we did it with film - but this sounds like far too much work that the camera should have taken care of in the first place.
raztec: What I cannot understand is why Canon and Nikon don't make a range finder style camera that will take all their legacy MF lenses.
There's obviously a huge market for it, especially among photo enthusiasts who often have more than one camera.
Such a camera would not impact their DSLR sales so what are they worried about?
I am so waiting for that camera!
Ugly box of mostly buttons.
Any statement that doesn't begin with, "We knowingly sold a defective product and will give a refund to anyone who wants one." is a load of crap.
I don't get it.
FredW: To me, there's a bigger issue here. I'm ok with the orbing levels of my Jan 2012 x10 but I would not be ok with the x10 orbing levels I've seen in many of the online postings here and elsewhere.
It appears that there has been a significant, unpublished sensor change or sensor batch variance. I think this helps also to explain the split on the forum regarding the x10. The x10s are performing at different levels depending on when they were produced.
The fourth wave: Finally, a camera that gives me the orbs I want!
With today's technology, it's amazing to me that a problem like this even exists.
Josh152: Even if you never see an orb you have still been knowingly sold a defective camera at an obscenely high price by Fuji who wont even openly admit the problem exists and who even mocked their own customers over the issue. In the end that is all that matters. This type of behavior should not be rewarded with loyalty or your hard earned money.
Even if you love the X10 you should not be defending it or Fuji. You are just encouraging and excusing bad behavior.
We need to hold Fuji accountable for their actions regardless of what you think of the X10.
Josh, you're right. Consumers can like it, but defending Fuji's actions is ridiculous.
carsten böttcher: "reflects new production efficiencies... will result in a substantial reduction in the camera’s market price..." or better said "massive price reduction because SD1 doesn't sell as expected" means someone's woken up to get the Foveon investment back. Hope the DPs will have better IQ than the horrible SD1.
Totally agree.
Jogger: Im gonna get this for my NEX-5N.
That is hilarious.
I've seen shots from th SD and they're lousy! not worth $7000, not worth $2300! Any number of cameras, much cheaper, can do better.
4fps? 4? $3,000? Really?
Four? Four?! That should tell us something.
You get what you pay for.
A great loss. Let us send our best thoughts to his family and friends, and also to Sigma, that they may carry on and honor this gentleman's memory.