The E-P5 seems to be a fine MFT-camera, indeed. But the only significant advantage to the E-PL5 is an even better image stabilizer, IMO. Are the other differences important enough (if you're not keen on Wi-Fi), to justify the camera's much higher price? Wouldn't you better buy - for the same money - a weathersealed OMD with its built-in EVF?
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Posted on May 11, 2013 at 12:48:12 UTC
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With aperture wide open the GR provides obviously better sharpness than the Coolpix A does. With F 5.0 the Nikon is above the Ricoh. I'd like to know how their lenses cope with sun inside the frame. Furthermore, the GR might offer more versatility, if its 21mm adapter proves usable and doesn't kill IQ. Therefore I'm hoping for additional test shots with this accessory.
Generally, all these cameras (including, of course, the Sigma with its impressive IQ at low ISOs) are pricy. And prices in this sector are constantly coming down as new rivals are pushing into the market.
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Posted on Apr 23, 2013 at 04:14:29 UTC
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No judge can decide whether new prints decrease the value of older ones. It's the market! Of course, the exorbitant high prices for photographs (and for so many other things, by the way) might be ridiculous. But these prices have nothing to do with photographic or artistic value. The higher the price the more significance is being put into the collector's item - and in the collector himself. It's the input of humans imagination. In the 70s and 80s, when I saw Egglestone's photographs (among them the kid's bike) I was interested but didn't attach great importance to them. My view hasn't changed since then. I wonder if photography regarded as art will be good or bad.
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Posted on Apr 4, 2013 at 01:12:09 UTC
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Howsoever this portraiture has been made, it's justified. It's the result that counts. Even the background with its blurred colors is adding to it. Congratulations!
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Posted on Apr 1, 2013 at 17:54:30 UTC
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IQ is okay IMO. And the picture of this old dusty cash box is the one I like most. But how does the lens react when the sun is just outside or just inside the frame? The X100 is said to have serious problems with such lighting conditions.
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Posted on Mar 20, 2013 at 01:18:03 UTC
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Cal22: You can't ignore the disadvantages this adapter comes along with (more CA, lower contrast, corner softening, poor AF, more weight and bulkiness of FF lens/adapter). That's why it won't be a tool for any photographer in the mirrorless sector. But for some the adapter might prove useful, especially if it comes to wide angle or high aperture FF lenses you possess anyway.
Question: What about the adapter combined with a wide angle shift lens? Will shiftening be increasing optical flaws?
Dan_168: That's what I mean! This SB is not made for any mirrorless shooter (who likes AF, e.g.) but for people like you having FF lenses already. And you should be aware of the risk of optical flaws. Adapting a FF lens at a mirrorless camera comes along with a crop factor of 1.5, which might be an advantage or a disadvantage. But there's no affecting IQ. This new adapter is different! Its glass elements affect IQ more or less, depending on each lens/adapter-combination. You will have to find out which lens of yours the SB works well with!
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Posted on Feb 2, 2013 at 03:24:30 UTC
Cal22: You can't ignore the disadvantages this adapter comes along with (more CA, lower contrast, corner softening, poor AF, more weight and bulkiness of FF lens/adapter). That's why it won't be a tool for any photographer in the mirrorless sector. But for some the adapter might prove useful, especially if it comes to wide angle or high aperture FF lenses you possess anyway.
Question: What about the adapter combined with a wide angle shift lens? Will shiftening be increasing optical flaws?
Alphaloki: I agree with you basically, although I don't think there will be an SB for my Carl Zeiss lenses from the film era. And: I had a teleconverter but didn't like it because of its flaws in back light. Not any device can fulfill your expectations.
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Posted on Feb 2, 2013 at 03:09:49 UTC
It's a very interesting new thing albeit no magic device. I guess since this adapter brings additional glass between the lens and the camera sensor, you should not expect it to deliver high image quality regardless of the lens you combine it with. In optical terms the adapter is a compromise because it has been designed to be used with many different lenses and not with one specific lens only. Therefore it might work well with this lens of yours and in a different lens/adapter-combination deliver disappointing results.
I'd like to know how the adapter performs with super wide angle lenses!
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Posted on Feb 2, 2013 at 00:53:37 UTC
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You can't ignore the disadvantages this adapter comes along with (more CA, lower contrast, corner softening, poor AF, more weight and bulkiness of FF lens/adapter). That's why it won't be a tool for any photographer in the mirrorless sector. But for some the adapter might prove useful, especially if it comes to wide angle or high aperture FF lenses you possess anyway.
Question: What about the adapter combined with a wide angle shift lens? Will shiftening be increasing optical flaws?
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Posted on Feb 1, 2013 at 13:06:50 UTC
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sorinx: Faster focusing. Tiltable screen. Touchscreen. It just needs a good all-around lens. 16-70 F4, or something like that.
HowaboutRAW: xlotus:
The 20-50 mm is so lightweight, it's no problem taking it with you all the time. It's no lens for all purposes but for many. It has a reduced focal length, you can't deny, but I bet, the more you get familiar with the lens, the more it will serve to your convenience. (I had and still have a full-frame Zeiss 35-70mm) More important than focal range is IQ.
I don't like these wide range zoom lenses (like this 18-200mm). They promise to be the right tool for many situations and yet you will be not satisfied with the pictures they deliver. And very soon you will be wondering what this heavyweight thing in your camerabag might be good for. This is how I see it.
And as to the IQ of these 2 lenses, go to PHOTOZONE - Lens Reviews! The testresults are astonishing!
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Posted on Jan 11, 2013 at 05:18:26 UTC
jj74e: I don't get it. Why is an EVF so desirable in this type of camera, that is to say rangefinder-style mirrorless?
Sony is able to put their EVF in the corner of their body (and not a bulgy hump at the top) because their screen sizes are unconventionally at 16:9 and rather small. Fuji also because, well frankly their bodies aren't very compact anyway.
Personally I don't want a 16:9 screen when most of my photos are 4:3, and I don't want a hump to bulk up my camera- wuah la, cameras like the NX300 might be right for me.
Honestly, if all you want is an EVF, look at a camera with an EVF; it's that simple. How big do you think the market demand is for built in EVFs in this product segment? Considering companies are also catering to point-and-shoot upgraders, probably not very.
Hey, if you want an EVF, there's a camera for you. But don't go writing off other cameras that don't have one because it could be the camera for someone else.
"Whoa, you mean, I'm not the only consumer here?"
I understand you don't need an EVF! Many people are like you, that's why millions of cameras have no EVF and smartphones either. But I'm coming from the SLR-league, being familiar with having a viewfinder for my kind of photographing. I won't carry a bulky and heavyweight SLR-equipment with me anymore. I like these mirrorless system cameras being compact and lightweight, no problem to be carrying 2 of them and a few small lenses.
Wishing to have one attachable EVF for such cameras - what's wrong with that? Even for the Lumix LX7 such an accessory is being offered as far as I know. If it is an accessory it's up to the camera owner to decide whether to buy one or not.
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Posted on Jan 10, 2013 at 16:30:38 UTC
sorinx: Faster focusing. Tiltable screen. Touchscreen. It just needs a good all-around lens. 16-70 F4, or something like that.
There's a 20 - 50 mm zoom lens. It's compact and lightweight, characteristics Samsung seems to be giving high significance in designing lenses. It has no stabilisation, but in a test it proved to deliver really high image quality at f5,6 and f8,0.
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Posted on Jan 10, 2013 at 03:35:56 UTC
Thanks for the "Hands-on"! This NX looks like a beauty. I guess the articulated rear screen will be way more appreciated than its touch function (which might be nevertheless welcomed by many). And since Samsung is driving things forward with such a speed as to overhaul the competitors, you may expect the NX300 to be improved even if it comes to performance and IQ. I'm looking forward to a full review!
And Samsung, please, offer an EVF (with high resolution) as an accessory for an NX300s, which has an exposure compensation dial at the right edge of the top-plate!
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Posted on Jan 10, 2013 at 03:10:07 UTC
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Cal22: This camera looks so good and its screen is a real improvement. But it lacks an EVF as an option, which is essential for serious composing!
In order to explain my view: I made my experience as a photographer in the film era, had exhibitions, but had to finish because of massive health problems. A few years ago I learned accidentally what had caused me my fierce headaches in former years. My bulky SLRs with heavy Zeiss lenses hanging around my neck had pressed a nerve or influenced the bloodflow to the brain. I have been considering quite a while now whether to start once again with a small and lightweight mirrorless camera.
Although all my cameras had a motordrive I had not been a fast shooter. On the contrary, finding out a good composition had always been a challenge to me making me hold the camera to the eye, moving to and fro, until at the end I took my picture or didn't if I wasn't satisfied with the scene. That's why I've been looking for a mirrorless camera with an EVF as an option. I've got absolutely no experience with such cameras and I'm afraid that without an EVF I couldn't photograph the way I used to do.
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Posted on Jan 7, 2013 at 01:48:49 UTC
Cal22: This camera looks so good and its screen is a real improvement. But it lacks an EVF as an option, which is essential for serious composing!
@ Revenant You're right! But I don't like the SLR style of the NX20 (or the even better OLY OMD-E-M5). As a lefteye photographer I would be pressing my nose against the rear screen looking through the built-in EVF. I guess a camera with an EVF put on the top plate would match my needs more.
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Posted on Jan 7, 2013 at 00:48:04 UTC
Cal22: This camera looks so good and its screen is a real improvement. But it lacks an EVF as an option, which is essential for serious composing!
Bryan M: The articulated screen of the new NX is surely a very useful thing. It allows you to shoot pictures from waist level or ground level. And maybe many photographers don't need an additional finder. But I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to concentrate on the picture with so many things around distracting me. In an EVF (or an SLR finder) you see just the picture you are busy with - nothing more and nothing less.
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Posted on Jan 7, 2013 at 00:31:09 UTC
Great photograph! Did you make the picture spontaneously when you saw this spot for the first time? Or was it known to you already as a promising scene and you have been waiting for the season and the weather which would match?
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Posted on Dec 14, 2012 at 01:26:32 UTC
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The E-P5 seems to be a fine MFT-camera, indeed. But the only significant advantage to the E-PL5 is an even better image stabilizer, IMO. Are the other differences important enough (if you're not keen on Wi-Fi), to justify the camera's much higher price? Wouldn't you better buy - for the same money - a weathersealed OMD with its built-in EVF?
jon404: Can you put a polarizer, or an ND filter, or any other kind of filter on it?
There's an optional adapter for a lens hood as well as for 43mm filters and for a wide-angle converter making the lens a 21mm (ff, equiv.)!
With aperture wide open the GR provides obviously better sharpness than the Coolpix A does. With F 5.0 the Nikon is above the Ricoh. I'd like to know how their lenses cope with sun inside the frame. Furthermore, the GR might offer more versatility, if its 21mm adapter proves usable and doesn't kill IQ. Therefore I'm hoping for additional test shots with this accessory.
Generally, all these cameras (including, of course, the Sigma with its impressive IQ at low ISOs) are pricy. And prices in this sector are constantly coming down as new rivals are pushing into the market.
No judge can decide whether new prints decrease the value of older ones. It's the market! Of course, the exorbitant high prices for photographs (and for so many other things, by the way) might be ridiculous. But these prices have nothing to do with photographic or artistic value. The higher the price the more significance is being put into the collector's item - and in the collector himself. It's the input of humans imagination.
In the 70s and 80s, when I saw Egglestone's photographs (among them the kid's bike) I was interested but didn't attach great importance to them. My view hasn't changed since then. I wonder if photography regarded as art will be good or bad.
Howsoever this portraiture has been made, it's justified. It's the result that counts. Even the background with its blurred colors is adding to it. Congratulations!
IQ is okay IMO. And the picture of this old dusty cash box is the one I like most. But how does the lens react when the sun is just outside or just inside the frame? The X100 is said to have serious problems with such lighting conditions.
Cal22: You can't ignore the disadvantages this adapter comes along with (more CA, lower contrast, corner softening, poor AF, more weight and bulkiness of FF lens/adapter). That's why it won't be a tool for any photographer in the mirrorless sector. But for some the adapter might prove useful, especially if it comes to wide angle or high aperture FF lenses you possess anyway.
Question: What about the adapter combined with a wide angle shift lens? Will shiftening be increasing optical flaws?
Dan_168:
That's what I mean! This SB is not made for any mirrorless shooter (who likes AF, e.g.) but for people like you having FF lenses already. And you should be aware of the risk of optical flaws. Adapting a FF lens at a mirrorless camera comes along with a crop factor of 1.5, which might be an advantage or a disadvantage. But there's no affecting IQ. This new adapter is different! Its glass elements affect IQ more or less, depending on each lens/adapter-combination. You will have to find out which lens of yours the SB works well with!
Cal22: You can't ignore the disadvantages this adapter comes along with (more CA, lower contrast, corner softening, poor AF, more weight and bulkiness of FF lens/adapter). That's why it won't be a tool for any photographer in the mirrorless sector. But for some the adapter might prove useful, especially if it comes to wide angle or high aperture FF lenses you possess anyway.
Question: What about the adapter combined with a wide angle shift lens? Will shiftening be increasing optical flaws?
Alphaloki:
I agree with you basically, although I don't think there will be an SB for my Carl Zeiss lenses from the film era.
And: I had a teleconverter but didn't like it because of its flaws in back light. Not any device can fulfill your expectations.
It's a very interesting new thing albeit no magic device. I guess since this adapter brings additional glass between the lens and the camera sensor, you should not expect it to deliver high image quality regardless of the lens you combine it with. In optical terms the adapter is a compromise because it has been designed to be used with many different lenses and not with one specific lens only. Therefore it might work well with this lens of yours and in a different lens/adapter-combination deliver disappointing results.
I'd like to know how the adapter performs with super wide angle lenses!
You can't ignore the disadvantages this adapter comes along with (more CA, lower contrast, corner softening, poor AF, more weight and bulkiness of FF lens/adapter). That's why it won't be a tool for any photographer in the mirrorless sector. But for some the adapter might prove useful, especially if it comes to wide angle or high aperture FF lenses you possess anyway.
Question: What about the adapter combined with a wide angle shift lens? Will shiftening be increasing optical flaws?
A wonderful photo indeed!
sorinx: Faster focusing. Tiltable screen. Touchscreen.
It just needs a good all-around lens. 16-70 F4, or something like that.
HowaboutRAW:
xlotus:
The 20-50 mm is so lightweight, it's no problem taking it with you all the time. It's no lens for all purposes but for many. It has a reduced focal length, you can't deny, but I bet, the more you get familiar with the lens, the more it will serve to your convenience. (I had and still have a full-frame Zeiss 35-70mm) More important than focal range is IQ.
I don't like these wide range zoom lenses (like this 18-200mm). They promise to be the right tool for many situations and yet you will be not satisfied with the pictures they deliver. And very soon you will be wondering what this heavyweight thing in your camerabag might be good for. This is how I see it.
And as to the IQ of these 2 lenses, go to PHOTOZONE - Lens Reviews! The testresults are astonishing!
jj74e: I don't get it. Why is an EVF so desirable in this type of camera, that is to say rangefinder-style mirrorless?
Sony is able to put their EVF in the corner of their body (and not a bulgy hump at the top) because their screen sizes are unconventionally at 16:9 and rather small. Fuji also because, well frankly their bodies aren't very compact anyway.
Personally I don't want a 16:9 screen when most of my photos are 4:3, and I don't want a hump to bulk up my camera- wuah la, cameras like the NX300 might be right for me.
Honestly, if all you want is an EVF, look at a camera with an EVF; it's that simple. How big do you think the market demand is for built in EVFs in this product segment? Considering companies are also catering to point-and-shoot upgraders, probably not very.
Hey, if you want an EVF, there's a camera for you. But don't go writing off other cameras that don't have one because it could be the camera for someone else.
"Whoa, you mean, I'm not the only consumer here?"
I understand you don't need an EVF! Many people are like you, that's why millions of cameras have no EVF and smartphones either. But I'm coming from the SLR-league, being familiar with having a viewfinder for my kind of photographing. I won't carry a bulky and heavyweight SLR-equipment with me anymore. I like these mirrorless system cameras being compact and lightweight, no problem to be carrying 2 of them and a few small lenses.
Wishing to have one attachable EVF for such cameras - what's wrong with that? Even for the Lumix LX7 such an accessory is being offered as far as I know. If it is an accessory it's up to the camera owner to decide whether to buy one or not.
sorinx: Faster focusing. Tiltable screen. Touchscreen.
It just needs a good all-around lens. 16-70 F4, or something like that.
There's a 20 - 50 mm zoom lens. It's compact and lightweight, characteristics Samsung seems to be giving high significance in designing lenses. It has no stabilisation, but in a test it proved to deliver really high image quality at f5,6 and f8,0.
Thanks for the "Hands-on"! This NX looks like a beauty. I guess the articulated rear screen will be way more appreciated than its touch function (which might be nevertheless welcomed by many). And since Samsung is driving things forward with such a speed as to overhaul the competitors, you may expect the NX300 to be improved even if it comes to performance and IQ. I'm looking forward to a full review!
And Samsung, please, offer an EVF (with high resolution) as an accessory for an NX300s, which has an exposure compensation dial at the right edge of the top-plate!
Cal22: This camera looks so good and its screen is a real improvement. But it lacks an EVF as an option, which is essential for serious composing!
In order to explain my view: I made my experience as a photographer in the film era, had exhibitions, but had to finish because of massive health problems. A few years ago I learned accidentally what had caused me my fierce headaches in former years. My bulky SLRs with heavy Zeiss lenses hanging around my neck had pressed a nerve or influenced the bloodflow to the brain. I have been considering quite a while now whether to start once again with a small and lightweight mirrorless camera.
Although all my cameras had a motordrive I had not been a fast shooter. On the contrary, finding out a good composition had always been a challenge to me making me hold the camera to the eye, moving to and fro, until at the end I took my picture or didn't if I wasn't satisfied with the scene. That's why I've been looking for a mirrorless camera with an EVF as an option. I've got absolutely no experience with such cameras and I'm afraid that without an EVF I couldn't photograph the way I used to do.
Cal22: This camera looks so good and its screen is a real improvement. But it lacks an EVF as an option, which is essential for serious composing!
@ Revenant
You're right! But I don't like the SLR style of the NX20 (or the even better OLY OMD-E-M5). As a lefteye photographer I would be pressing my nose against the rear screen looking through the built-in EVF. I guess a camera with an EVF put on the top plate would match my needs more.
Cal22: This camera looks so good and its screen is a real improvement. But it lacks an EVF as an option, which is essential for serious composing!
Bryan M: The articulated screen of the new NX is surely a very useful thing. It allows you to shoot pictures from waist level or ground level. And maybe many photographers don't need an additional finder. But I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to concentrate on the picture with so many things around distracting me. In an EVF (or an SLR finder) you see just the picture you are busy with - nothing more and nothing less.
This camera looks so good and its screen is a real improvement. But it lacks an EVF as an option, which is essential for serious composing!
Great photograph! Did you make the picture spontaneously when you saw this spot for the first time? Or was it known to you already as a promising scene and you have been waiting for the season and the weather which would match?