Robgo2: All but the most fanatical Nikon fans will have to agree that 24MP for an entry level camera is truly absurd. The phrase "wretched excess" is an understatement in this case.
> All but the most fanatical Nikon fans will have to agree that > 24MP for an entry level camera is truly absurdNo, I predict the opposite. Megapixels matter the most for common people who like entry-level cameras.
Hugo808: Way too many pixels for me, who really needs pictures that big? My D40x has it just about right with 10mp, nice big pics with enough detail to stun on my 17" monitor. I never blew up prints that big so don't need them biggger.
Sooner or later someone will realise it's all about marketing now and that picture taking has taken second place and we can all get sane again and stop slowing down our computers with things we don't need....
> who really needs pictures that big?Those who can afford something better than 17" monitor.
ZAnton: There is already Samyang 14mm f/2.8 for almost 1/10 the price.Only real crazy techno-geeks will buy Zeiss.
@ZAntonNo, Ken does not estimate resolution mathematically, for example, as lenstip does. He only cares for things that a sane buyer should check.
> There is already Samyang 14mm f/2.8 for almost 1/10 the price.Yeah, and for idiots. Even Ren Cockwell admits the Samyang is a piece of crap.
professor4321: From Imaging Resource,Overexposure "Blooming"A final limitation of CCD sensors is their reaction to severe illumination overloads. This is the reason for including a shiny pot lid in the Dave Box targets on the Imaging Resource website, because it reflects light sources back into the camera lens. In the face of extremely high light overloads, some CCDs will "leak" charge from the overexposed elements into adjacent cells. This phenomenon is called blooming, and various methods are employed to prevent it. It most frequently shows itself as a colored fringe around specular (shiny) highlights. Frequently, the sensor will bloom differently in each of the red, green or blue channels, producing the colored fringes where one channel has bloomed more than the others. The impact of this for your particular work will depend on its nature. If you intend to photograph a lot of chromed auto parts, blooming could be a big problem. It would be a complete non-issue in photos of bath towels.
CCD generally exhibit somewhat different kind of blooming that looks like streaks. CMOS is considered more resilient to this problem. However, I can see something very similar to Fuji glitches in some photos from my phone Nokia N8 that has a CMOS sensor.
professor4321: There's a lot of speculation on this thread about what's causing the problem but none of these posters actually know, do they? Let's hope Fuji explain soon.
By the way when everyone's finally finished with the orbs you can move onto the following,"The image area with high brightness might be recorded as "black-out" area, just in case of dedicated shooting condition, This unpleasant phenomenon is improved."
From latest firmware update.
> Let's hope Fuji explain soon.But Fuji has explained a long time ago: "The blooming issue is something not uncommon to many types of digital camera". Just poor blooming protection, that's all.
jorepuusa: I have Fuji X10. I did not buy it to shoot white orbs. I bought it because of its superior ergonomics. The white orbs can be seen sometimes when a shot is taken. But one has to hunt the picture to find them and if You do not know what to look, You cannot see them at all.I´m sure that 99% of people who write here do not have a Fuji, do not know what the orbs look and do not find them in a picture. I admit that they are there BUT similar white orbs are produced by Canon G12, Nikon P7000, not to speak of cheaper point and shoots.This " conversation" here shows the main problem among amateur photographers.Most of them cannot shoot a proper picture and they know that they never will, anyways they want to stay in the crowd of photographers and the only way is to write miserable and laughable thoughts of technology.That is the worst way of making photography go further.All cams over 500€ produce pictures that cannot be separated from each other in web and very thinly as prints.
> I´ve covered war and crisis and famine in 9 countries for AP, UPI, DPA and AFPNot exactly a believable claim considering how bad your portfolio is.
> I admit that they are there BUT similar white orbs are produced by Canon G12, Nikon P7000This is not true. For example, X10 would significantly screw these shots but G12 and P7000 are OK:http://www.flickr.com/photos/28073671@N05/5482796830/sizes/l/in/photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/girolame/5675225540/sizes/l/in/photostream/
> I have Fuji X10. I did not buy it to shoot white orbs.Alas, you'll have to.
wlachan: About time. The fragile plastic body of SD is a major weakness. I had some working SD which had to be trashed just because the plastic bodies cracked beyond usable condition.
You may want to note that Samsung does not actually claim metal body but rather metal "design" which may easily mean usual plastic body encased in very thin metal. Or metal may be glued to the plastic. Just weasel words like "best-in-class" and "withstand the force of a 1.6 ton vehicle".
Maybe I've missed something but isn't the lens body made of plastic? No wonder it is so cheap then.
roblarosa: Lensbaby = Overpriced crap.
Zebooka: you are feeding a troll.
klopus: Anything that Lensbaby does can be easily and totally done much cheaper in post and with better quality if you use decent ordinary lens. And you don't have to toil manually in PS (though it isn't hard). There are many plugins that can simulate free form tilt/shift and selective focus. Heck, on iPhone and Android there are hordes of apps doing same thing.
The only Lensbaby advantage non reproduceable in post I see is to use movements to level architectural perspective which is main application of the classical T/S lens. Not sure if this even can be done reliably with Lensbabies since they lack precise controls and sharp end-to-end optics.
Not true. Tilt for "extending DOF" cannot be replaced with editing a single frame and focus stacking is certainly not 'easy'.
Ernest M Aquilio: Just how impactful is the "white orb" effect in real world shooting? I am on the fence about this camera and cannot imagine that this can totally ruin a photo. Any examples of this that caused the photo to be totally unusable?
> Any examples of this that caused the photo to be totally unusable?Any dark night city shot at ISO 100 on tripod if there are some bright light sources : http://fotkidepo.ru/?id=photo:734437This is a shot after the firmware update (and not made by me).
I tried the Sony 500/8 at a short distance and in such a situation it loses contrast significantly so the "making the lens potentially interesting for chasing insects and the like" clause is not quite realistic, IMHO.
D200_4me: I'm not sure I see the value of this lens. Manual focus, no zoom, F/6.3? I would rather have my stabilized 30-110mm (81-297 equiv) Nikon 1 lens :-) Just as compact and it's a zoom...and it's stabilized...and it's sharp....and it's only $250. No, I don't have a m4/3 camera anymore so I wouldn't have a need for this lens anyway. Even if I did have a still have a GH2, I can't find a good reason to buy something like this.
> You can check my 'work' online to see whether or not I'm an idiotI have checked that 'work' and the answer is unfortunate for you.
Peter Evans: I'm interested in this camera only as, well, a matter of interest. As someone who earns his living from photography and, as a career-long Nikon owner, I've already bought heavily into one system and so have no intention of taking up another.
What I would like to voice here, as several other already have, is my disappointment in the 'red-top journalism' English used by DPReview in this announcement. "Put a dent in your pocket" and "the amount you'll have to scrape together" are phrases we shouldn't be seeing on a respected site such as this. It's sufficient merely to state what the new price is expected to be and leave it at that.
Finally, and just my 2 centimes on the camera system itself, from what I've seen so far, it looks pretty good to me - ideal for those photographers who hanker after a Leica system but can ill afford the Leica prices.
Check the other comments - the article style quite fits the audience ;).
"I can remember when a good quality film camera cost $2400"
Wow really? Please name that camera?
I recall the very high quality Nikon FM 2 selling for years at around £250 in the UK (around USD 500 at the time).
"You numb skulls will never except that quality craftsmanship has a price"
Come on, its going to mass produced in Japan/Thailand not carefully assembled by an artisan in a workshop somewhere in the Swiss Alps.
Ultimately the market will decide, but I'll wager that in these straightened times Fuji have got it wrong and pitched too high. There're fools. I would have gone in at a lower price to build market momentum, and establish share.
The camera market is in a state of flux and is up for grabs. There's absolutely no reason why Fuji can't be a major player, but not with pricing like this. They're being greedy and shortsighted.
simon65> the FM 2 was built of TitaniumYes, and it was listed for $1120. More than 15 years ago it was quite a sum.
Jmmg: Also, why on earth Fuji now made a new series of high quality filters for X100, X pro 1 but the X10 users still struggle to find anything that mount on their X10...39 mm? 40 mm? 40.5 mm? ARe we being forgotten? You wanted our support but treated us like second class users and customers...
> ARe we being forgotten?Who cares for point and shoot buyers? Get real.
Valentinian: There is a saying about the generals: they prepare for the wars of the past, not for the next war.What do the Leica M9 and all FF DSLR have in common? They both adapted (successfully) a technology of the past (mirror, optical range finder) to a new generation of cameras (that use SENSORS not FILM, for crying out loud).What are Panasonic, Olympus etc. trying to do? They are working on the evolution of SENSOR cameras. That in a near future will see super oled EVF much better than optical, and very fast autofocus.What are Nikon, Canon and Fuji doing with the DSLR and the X-pro1 ? they are missing the boat of the future camera system, which is oled and mirrorless !
> Only the lag factor is superior with an OVF.Unfortunately it is the only thing that matters if you need to frame a shot quickly.
Paul Farace: OUCH! Oh well, maybe in 10 years I'll pick one up used for about $900... if it turns out to be a good camera.
I guess it can't compare to SLRs in price / functionality... it is a purchase made in the heart, not the brain (like many things we buy)... rather any cost comparisons should be made against the Leica M9.
> Oh well, maybe in 10 years I'll pick one up used for about $900...Oh, I really wish you will be able to save up the sum until then.