User3723086768: MFT fans can say whatever they want, but you can get a Sony A6000 for half the price with way better noise performance... and thinner.I guess this is a great camera if you don't mind the low light quality and the depth of field implications.
@norman shearer"... shutter could wake the dead ..." - OMG, that's a fantastic feature. :D
@Bhima78I don't really care about overpriced F4 crop lenses either. Compared to the real thing, they can only provide F6, which is basically too close to F5.6 to make any big difference. So they both look the same to me, sorry.
@Hugh JSo, you pay $1000 for every DoF'less F5.6 lens and call those who spend same kind of money on much better lenses - "idiots"? You are crazy :)).Some people don't know how to use their gear, doesn't really matter, maybe they'll learn faster with better tools. On the other hand, why buy big, fast, expensive optics, if you won't use it wide open much?Maybe you are jealous? There are many affordable used FF cameras and 'cheap' wide aperture lenses. So, basically anyone can play with narrow DoF these days. Just stop worshiping your camera brand and be critical.
@Bhima78I hate to break it to you, but all you get with 12-40/2.8 on MFT (a 2x crop camera) is 24-80/5.6, only you pay $900 for it. Funny, isn't it?
ecka84: I don't think that any 16GB or 32GB card can really support 8K :). I mean, 30sec on 16GB, 60sec on 32GB ... ? Pointless.Maybe they should start producing 2TB cards first and then worry about speed.
Still don't see any reason to use 16GB card for 8K, sorry. And I don't want to spend over $500 per card (proper capacity V60 or V90 cards).We should not assume that everyone will be shooting compressed 8K with the lowest possible bitrate. This thing is for serious videographers, who want more data for post-production, which has not been destroyed by heavy compression. I don't want 8K to look like an upscaled 4K, so I'd rather shoot a less compressed or uncompressed 4K then.
Yeah, right, thoughtless math fail :)) 800MB/sec * 30sec = 16GB?? (are you sure it's not 24GB?)OK, maybe it's not 30sec, if it is compressed. I'm exaggerating just a little bit. It may be 3 minutes then. Is that enough?Are there any 512GB V90 cards that are cheaper or faster than SSD?
ybizzle: Remember the good ol' days when you didn't have to worry about this crap and just buy any old 64MB SD card for your 2mp Kodak digicam? I miss 2002...
@dccdpExcept that you had to worry about all the different crap. Like constantly needing to buy something. Imagine if you could only use your memory cards once.
I don't think that any 16GB or 32GB card can really support 8K :). I mean, 30sec on 16GB, 60sec on 32GB ... ? Pointless.Maybe they should start producing 2TB cards first and then worry about speed.
Marksphoto: Just bought a near new Canon 85 1.8 for $270. Why would I concern myself buying third party lenses when they become obsolete on next generation cameras...
I think Tamron looks bad enough to compare it to a 24 year old lens.
@setaside2What are you talking about ...EF85/1.8USM optically is near as good as the new Tamron 35 or 45.
ecka84: I just hope that 85/1.8VC has lower CA and fringing levels than the 35/1.8VC or the EF85/1.8USM.
Yes it is very limiting.No, it cannot be easily corrected, unlike distortion and vignetting.Seems like the modern Tamron 35/1.8VC has the same old purple/green fringing and that's what concerns me.
I just hope that 85/1.8VC has lower CA and fringing levels than the 35/1.8VC or the EF85/1.8USM.
Wrong RAW file
ecka84: So it is a very selfish camera? :)
And how would shellfish make money to buy this selfish camera? Sell fish? :D
Greg7579: I admit I am a huge fan of Fuji (love the XT-1), and its special "feel" - ergo, retro, all of those beautiful dials and great IQ. I do like the X-Trans sensor. I am a Canon FF shooter and have been for many decades, but love the smaller system Fuji (and other mirrorless makers) provides. The Fuji lenses are the best in the world, I do believe. Now, having said that as full disclosure, I am always amazed that on any new camera announcement or early galleries or discussion of any brand, that people come out in droves rudely bashing whatever camera is in discussion in emotional ways that are not interesting or constructive. Many of them are paid writers supporting competing brands and their mission is to make the competition sound less appealing. Others of them are younger people who love internet and forum battles and are fiercely loyal to whatever brand they invested money in initially, and feel the need to bash anything else because it validates their own opinion and purchases.
"@ecka84: I "suffer tactile fetish addition" for my girlfriend, not my cameras."- I believe that fetish addiction can only be applied to an object or a thing, but not a person :).
So it is a very selfish camera? :)