108: Well yes, Canon might no be as sexy as Nikon or Sony , but then the cams look pretty reliable, colours and wb are good, the lens line up is clear , pretty logic at least for me , and skip the mediocre to go from good to excellent .
Nikon and Sony sexy? The nikon looks like a samurai and the sony like a jukebox. I prefer the batman style of Canon.
Gesture: EOS 80D or Nikon D7200? Which is the better value?
Which takes L lenses?
Rooru S: So it is not 'real time' live view at 8fps. Still a slideshow but with added blackout effects...too bad Sony had to simulate stuff for marketing BS.
"It will be fun to watch all these fanboy haters suddenly start loving mirrorless tech when their cherished brands start incorporating hybrid systems."
It will be fun seeing you when you realize that hybrid systems aren't mirrorless. Fanboi.
stormycub: So... It produces great 4k, but overheats and s-log3 is worthless because it outputs at 8bit, making grading difficult. HD is really disappointing, so you're reliant on downsampling from 4k... the problem is that 4k doesn't allow for slow-mo, so all the fps/time-lapse functionality goes out the window... and then there's the rolling shutter. Ergonomics have always been problematic and there's no touchscreen, which would solve a whole host of those issues... Sony have crammed a boat-load of tech into this camera but it appears that many of it's selling points are hamstrung in one way or another....
And sony users are the biggest whiners.
Prognathous: So apparently Nikon is now buying sensors from Canon... :)
Canon sensors now are better than this... thing
stevo23: And yet, Nikon D7200 still looks significantly better.
"Yes, you can take whatever they give. Or you can just get into a modern camera like Nikon or Sony and the wait is over."
Lots of bodies very limited in every other aspect.
(unknown member): Compare it to the D7200...
Nikon has the violet cast.
Favorable Exponynt: Groundbreaking for Canon means 2010 for Nikon
"That does not matter. Nikon Pentax, Sony (though they don't care to get the most out of their own sensors)."
They will, once Sony makes their sensors sony exclusive or if some feature that only those brands with own sensor fabs can produce become the must have.
Nikon doesn't have it's own sensors, so I don't see anywhere Nikon 2010.
cirtapfotos: ....This will not matter when Sigma Releases it's 85mm Art....will it? lol
"These new sony lenses, on term of "look" not mentioning sharpness, are on the same league of Zeiss and Leica."
I'm pretty sure, that zeis and leica lens owners beg to differ.
Paul B Jones: The irony is that for actual photography purposes, this is more than enough camera for the typical DPR gearhead.
For a begginer on a budget, this camera is more than enough. And it's competitive advantage, entrance into the eos system. Something the sony and nikon fanboys don't want to hear.
Canon still the best.
zigi_S: How can the phone get such a high score, when the photos look just awful?
The sensor seems capable, but the destructive noise reduction and oversharpening makes the camera worthless. Other companies like samsung and apple leave their images intact. And those images look good, even when they are taken with a smartphone.
TheDarmok74: Maybe I am blind but this is the umteenth Sony smartphone camera that gets high praises yet to me it looks like a crazy noisy image that had a lot NR done resulting in subpar IQ.Compared to the S6, G4, Nexus 6 or OnePlus 2 this just seems blotchy and oversharpened.Maybe Sony just doesn't hit my taste but to me it seems as though this sensor should have a lot less MP. Downsampling helps but is this the goal? Well, to each his own.
Dpreview is losing credibility with "reviews" like these.
Jostian: DPReview gotta be mad, I click on the photos and at 100% there is a fuzzy haze (smeariness) to ALL the photos, no detail (very unnatural looking) no matter what the iso...if this is the best that phone camera's have to offer I shudder! What is DPR smokin'?
Agree. When you look at the photos of galaxy s6 on gsm arena and then photos taken with the sony, there is no comparisson. Obviously, the sensor alone does not make a camera. The processing on the sony is awful. My cheap chinese no name phone took better pictures.
How can the phone get such a high score, when the photos look just awful?