spigot: OnePlus One should at least be on the list. It had raw in Kitkat itself.
you want dpreview to recommend phones that aren't primarily available on their countries's cellular networks?
worldcup1982: nothing beats the nokia 808 still.waiting for the successor, if there will ever be one.the 1020 is worse, worse lens,worse timing...
"students makes me knowing about it" - sure, that selected sample is all you need to judge everyone's usage of phones
Mister Roboto: Wow, still iPhone is there no matter what...
All-rounder? What kind of award is that?
Note 4, Galaxy 6, CM1, Nokia should get that title as they are miles better than iPhone in IQ and some of them have 4K video. iPhone is using 10 year old technology in it camera and any 50$ camera out there can easily trounce iPhone's output anytime of the day.
"the IQ sucks and all the others are better" - depends on your tolerance for "sucks" and "better"
"99,99% use their phones to such purpose." - so teaching photography also turns you into a statistics expert?
antares103: The Note 4 is the latest iteration of Samsung's top-end line of so-called 'phablets'
and yet, it still doesnt support DNG on Lollipop.
@antares103 - you CAN emphasize words without feeling that it is necessary to do so
"Geez you must be bored..." - chill, chillgreg, chill. =]
"He spoke of the _vast majority_ of them, not _all_ of them. " - a condescending view of any number in a group is still a condescending view.
"seem to only want to cater for the former." - most phone manufacturers have priorities to meet, and for some successful ones, user-centered design trumps feature showboating.
"...dont care about new and awesome tech. They use their cameras for selfies and thats it" - so you're going to ignore all the "phone photos" out there that are not themselves? you have a condescending view of other phone owners.
"So "RAW" makes sense in those terms." - nothing stops you and others from incorrectly treating raw as an acronym, but the existence of other acronyms that are raw camera image formats still does not make capitalizing "raw" necessary.
Raw is not an acronym, there's no need to capitalize all its letters
AusPic: I have been using a Galaxy S6 for two days now, lets see you review THIS camera under the iPhone!
Reading through the posts it MUST be an embarrassment to DPReview to have a banner "DPReview recommends: best smartphone camera" then have to post not once but repeatedly ...sorry we have not tested that one yet......
"lets see you review THIS camera under the iPhone!" - why do you assume that S6 needs to be in the same category as the iPhone? do you really think you want the S6 to fall under "best for general shooting" which does not even emphasize image quality?
MattLangley: Really disappointed you haven't tested the Note 4
no you don't have to wonder, if you already know that the S6 and Note 4 use the same "convoluted camera interface" as the S5, then they will go to the "best for feature lovers" category.
rondhamalam: lol... general shooting... you need special camera for that.. looks like run out of criteria
funny how you keep harping about blind tests when by your own logic you think they are worthless
"It is good as a Phone but not as a camera." - right, just so you could say something nice about it. you can consider that as your opinion and should not be taken seriously at all.
can you please quote at what point did anyone from DPR claim that "iPhone is better in IQ than any phone out there"?
"random numbers with no supporting evidence" - no, that's how you choose to interpret it
"Over there they have provided the readers with actual shots" - and instead of trusting one site's opinion, you think it's better to trust another site's survey of opinions of thousands you don't know, without any clue on what their preferences are.
if the tomato industry conducts a blind tomato sauce test, you're saying that you simply agree with the majority's selection of brand Z over brand X or Y, without any understanding of how the tomato sauce was set up, or even considering how different each person prefers to use their tomato sauce over you?
"personal opinion of the author and should NOT be taken seriously at all" - and what qualifies your opinion to be taken seriously about someone else's opinion?
"In the blind test conducted over PhoneArena, iCrap 6 came out last" - right, because you (blindly) trust the judgment of anonymous readers, and you always pick your camera based on image quality tests over actual use.
joao salvador: I have and use the iphone 6 and the Note 4. Samsung for everyday/work and iphone as second contact phone and for weekends. The Note 4 is clearly the best for pictures and video. The iphone lags beyond but takes fantastic panoramas and sometimes gives you more natural colours. Problem is the Note is sometimes awkward to use and always requires two hands to get sharp pictures even with ois. But when you manage to keep it steady it provides clearly better results than the iphone. My wife has the 6+ and despite the ois it has the same problems of stability as the Note. So, in my opinion, it's the iphone for panoramas and the Note for everything else (provided you can keep it steady). Maybe the S6 will be the best of both worlds. BTW: my RX 100 smokes all of the above and it's not much more difficult to carry than the Note 4 or 6+!
"My old Pana LX3 smokes any modern smartphone, even the 808 Pureview" - do you always need to tell other people you are compensating for some of your inadequacies?
larrytusaz: I picked up a Nikon D5000/18-55mm kit for only $175 around two weeks ago, it even included a portrait grip, 2 spare batteries, a Toshiba case and a 4G card. It would totally blast any of these to pieces. Yes it's large--so? When you care about quality, you only use the good stuff, not the stuff the Kodak/Polaroid crowd is using. Besides, if you can't deal with an SLR, there's always a Sony RX100 or Panasonic LX100, or the Sony NEX-6 which I also have and which, with Wi-Fi, can beam your images to a device for instant sharing, if that really matters so much.
"but you can stick a RX100 or LX100 into one" - those are still not smartphone cameras.
termix: The only thing I am missing and would like to see for other cameras as well is the performance of in camera battery charging through an USB cable. Is it slow or on the same level as a standard charger?
then you should wonder why fujifilm would design an in-camera charger that can pull more amps than the external charger that ships with the camera