shutterdragon: Love it, thank you, Fuji! The only thing you left out is the ability to develop RAW into TIFF in-camera. Why JPEG only?
do you know any camera that already does that?
keeponkeepingon: I would just love to see this same test with the 3X RX100.
I've got the S100 and Pureview 808. Yeah the S100 is better at full zoom but gosh it's nice to be able shoot at 28mm (equiv) and to "zoom in post". When you get it right there is just so much content in the pureview images, but there is the rub. It takes a lot of light and (for me) a lot of luck to get it just right. If the light is not perfect, or you are not getting a good shutter speed forgetaboutit.
The S100 is no lowlight monster either. You really should point that out, zoomed into 5X the thing is like F6 or something crazy while the 808 is still shooting at F2.4 It may still be better than the 808 but if things get dim I reach for my DSLR or ILC.
there seems to be a lot of zooming in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0cE3TffJ_g
Petrogel: Can Nokia's Pureview technology zoom as well as a compact camera? No, of course not.
do people use cameras at the maximum zoom most of the time? no, of course not.
rdscibilia: This is better than the EOS M I bought for $299 how exactly?
what you're paying for on the X100s: - solid build quality- optical viewfinder with hud- tactile control- no low pass filter, higher lp/mm- 1/4000s flash sync speed- hybrid AF that works- 6 fps - fantastic Manual Focus assist - built-in ND filterif you take videos and pictures on auto using the back lcd and don't need any of those special features then you're better off paying less with the EOS M with its buttons and touchscreen.
oduis: As a 925 owner, I must say that the DXO Mark Mobile score does not reflect reality at all. The problem is probably that the DXO Mark take way too few camera attributes into account.
The 1020 has a much bigger sensor, so it allows a narrower depth of field. This makes a big difference in composing images (and that’s why people buy full and mid format cameras). DXO does not measure that.
The 1020 uses its much higher resolution to have digital 3x zoom, versus no zoom on my 925. Not taken into account at all by DXO Mark Mobile.
The 1020 will get DNG raw support, which opens a whole world of highlight recovery, noise reduction fine tuning, precision in shadows etc. in Lightroom. The DXO Mark Mobile does not measure that.
So to sum up, DXO Mark Mobile looks scientific but is pretty useless to determine real world camera capabilities.
the DXO Mobile protocol explains what their "reality" is - http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/How-we-test-smartphones-The-DxOMark-Mobile-protocol Every website's objective criteria for measurement is subjective to everyone's interests. Only if you care about exactly the same things would you agree with the points they assign to devices.
Biowizard: Am I the only person wondering WTF this has to do with Digital Photography?
yeah you should go out and comment on every NASA related article:
30 years after rollout, take a tour of Space Shuttle Discovery's flightdeck Oct 14, 2013
Cassini spacecraft takes spectacular pictures of Saturn (oh, and Earth) Jul 23, 2013
Curiosity rover takes high-resolution self-portrait on MarsNov 2, 2012
Mars rover camera project manager explains 2MP camera choiceAug 8, 2012
Charlie boots: We have millions starving on the planet. There is a huge typhoon hitting the phillipines which will devastate the lives of thousands and we spend millions sending the olympic torch to the space station and back instead of helping these people. What a farce and a shame on us all.
All so greedy corporate intersts can milk the consumer for even more.
"all so greedy corporate intersts can milk the consumer for even more" - so you're relating the sending of the torch to mass hunger and a natural calamity? and that because they are doing this "we" aren't helping people at all?
Tord S Eriksson: Simplified DSLRs is the way to go, I think, with better, 'noiseless', sensors, if they are to survive in the bottom segment. Anti-shake in the bodies, not in the lenses. WiFi, of course. Remote control, of course!
If the average user wants video, give him video!
16MP seems ample, and APS-C seems to be the format. 16MP full format would be even better, if the lenses can be kept small!
If not, the budget DSLR is dead!
a 1 pixel sensor would be noiseless.
Joseph Mama: I guess it is a small improvement, but 1/2.3 vs 1/3 isn't THAT big of a gain. It also has no optical zoom and more importantly no image stabilization.
On phones, using the Shutter key is a LOSER. It pretty much guarantees a lousy picture. Phones are just too flimsy and light. Instead you hold it steady and tap the screen. The slight delay while it focuses on that point gives it time to dampen out the vibration from tapping.
if you're holding it in the traditional position, then your hands are optimized for the two-hand grip and the shutter button to minimize shake . however, if you try to shoot a stationary object in other angles (prone on the floor and phone at 45-90 degrees, or phone held with one hand arm fully extended, or phone in portrait mode, etc.) and are willing to accept the focus lag, then you're better off with the screen shutter.
Petrogel: With nearly 32 compact cameras for Nikon and about 20 for Canon, it's the compact cameras that are in their way out not the DSLRs.
before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes, then when you do criticize them, you'll be a mile away and have their shoes.
Calistoga_Guy: who cares if the sensor is compact camera sized. Sony ruined it by making it 20MP. I don't need to read a review or even see a photo to know that even shots at base ISO with perfect light will be just OK at best. Under less than ideal conditions, the image quality will be horrid. 5MP would have been great. When do writers start to call out this problem instead of just glossing over it?
photofan, i didn't mix anything up, you pretty much said the same thing i already did. and the superccd sensor of the f10 has 12mp of native data to work with before creating the 6mp jpg, read how honeycomb sensors work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_CCD
why do you think that your default image will be 20mp just because the sensor is 20mp? it's 8mp, you can even make it 5mp if you wanted by editing it yourself . fyi, fujifilm has been doing this for years, the f10 only makes 6mp files but the sensor is 12mp native.
he always thinks everything revolves around him
but they're "clueless" according to you - you claimed:"most of them care on how they'll upload them on Instagram, Pinterest, twitter or Facebook or how many likes they gonna get." - which means they will get one of those wifi P&S cameras or a smartphone. good job contradicting yourself again.
low end DSLRs are already dead for the majority of consumers. P&S will still fit in thrifty buyers' budget.
HawaiiVolcanoes: Gypsies....if you ever visited Romania or Italy ( a country they are trying to destroy)..maybe you wouldn't look so kindly on these "people"
which still has nothing to do with these photos. people always need examples of what happens when one doesn't get educated and the world has you to thank for that.
except "hippies" refer to americans so your definition is even less accurate.
"DxOMark found the Nokia Lumia 1020 Apple iPhone 5s' exposure and color reproduction to be good." - someone needs to proofread this again. there are also lines where it mentions iPhone instead of 1020. the autofocus section even has a bullet point with no text
perrycas: We have a 3.2 canon sure shot (?) that my wife still uses it. Over the years, at postcard size jpg' its image has proven to be almost impossible to tell from either hi end film or digital cameras used at the same time in the same conditions. I assume that most people take snaps with their phones. Good on 'em. Nothing wrong with snapping. For hi end images tho, you need a hi end (real) camera with a similar lens.
for a half-kilogram device that used to cost $900, sure that's understandable
jcmarfilph: A camera with a sensor 10x smaller than Nokia 808 placed 2nd? Are they hallucinating? Without the side-by-side comparison of photos, that DX0Mark should not be taken seriously.
D X O, not D X zero. and the 5S is trailing behind the 808 simply because there's no entry for the xperia z or 1020 yet.
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