Class A: The X-T1 is said to have better performance than the Pentax K-3 (can easily be seen when turning on the "Compare" mode for the subscores).
Yet, the K-3 manages 720 shots per charge vs the 350 of the Fuji X-T1.
The K-3 also has a higher frame rate (8.9 vs 8.2) and a deeper JPG buffer (68 vs 40).
So the X-T1's AF must be sensational to compensate the above performance disadvantages. Unfortunately, the X-T1 has not been subjected to the AF-C test the K-3 went through. Why not?
Finally, how can you claim that the X-T1's focus accuracy (& metering) is better than that of the Pentax K-3, if you haven't looked at the AF accuracy of the K-3 in a systematic manner at all (this was one of the aspects you dropped)?
BTW, the X-T1's electronic viewfinder may be very good compared to other EVFs, but to rate it better as the optical pentaprism of the K-3??? For sure, in terms of "performance" again, the K-3 will do much better in a pan when burst shooting.
Richard, I skip that page, my mistake, my excuses for my comment about it, XT-1 traking AF looks really excellent. Otoh, even you mention ISO setup as a Con, I believe that it's a hughe CON, because on real shooting action, you must have fast control, at least, of the 3 principal parameters of photography: shutter speed, aperture and ISO.
Seems tough DPR new tests are made for serious gear like K-3. Not "convenient" to apply the bicycle guy AF test on Fujis, ha? On my own review about Fuji I just reproved it because I couldn't find the way to set ISO in 2 moves with out loosing my subject from focus.
justmeMN: This camera can't be any good, because it (gasp!) has a mirror. :-)
As some videos on youtube shows, 645D shutter is more silence as crippled sonys last ff, and has a G spot in the shutter as well.
Danyel39: I think as already suggested, even if emotionally not easy, that I might take a serious look at FF with VERY High Iso capabilities. I also often Crop, and image quality e detail rendition are critical.I really love the Outsider Philosophy of Pentax, humbly and quietly delivering what I consider the best aps-c camera 3-4 years ago ( the K-5). Now time has changed and I believe you cannot win the competition with selectable anti aliasing filter. The game , or the war, is on other grounds.
Shooting at ngiht you must consider first MF(Pentax 645Z or other), with lower budget any last generation of 135mm frame dslr. Any way, leaving Pentax(K-5II or K-3) for other ff camera you will loose f2.8 AF capability on lowlight condition. Not if you take 645Z road off course.
Lust. It´s like a diva: enigmatic, desirable and unreachable
paulski66: Well, on the plus side, at least we won't have to read any more posts from all the Pentax fanboys complaining "Where's the K-3 review?" every time DPReview posts a review of any other camera.
Don't think so. No comes Pentax 645Z time ;)
RichRMA: Well, the half-plastic exercise in cost-cutting (relative to its predecessor) the D7100 gets 85 points, I presume it is the strength of the Nikon lens offering that gave the lesser camera the edge?
Or maybe dpr are preparing the category to receive 8D and D400 possibly arrive, leaving 86% score available?
It has the best fps high speed continue shooting performance, since buffer get filled, of any price competitor(D7100), and imho that count for 4% more.
123Mike: Carefully examining the low light capabilities of this K3, shows that it is no master in low light at all. It's kind on par with the dated Sony A57. Both the 70D and D7100 are better. Nex 6 is better. Heck, Nex 5 is better. Heck heck! Even the Nex 3 (three!) looks better.I thought that the Pentaxes are supposed to be good in low light. Looks like it isn't at all. Any this costs like $1200+ ? Are they out to lunch or something?
Look again and see how K-3 retains better colour pattern while ISO get high. Canikons colour fade into grey.
waxwaine: Thankyou DPR team for this extensive review. I sincerily hope it worth the hard work. Cheers.
hahahaTell him to get the full Pentax Limited pack too.
Thankyou DPR team for this extensive review. I sincerily hope it worth the hard work. Cheers.
Retzius: I can't believe you ended the review with this:
"It's not a camera to change systems for, but it's well worth upgrading to, and good enough to make the Pentax system worth considering if you have no existing commitments."
In effect, you are bluntly saying "don't buy this camera if you are a Nikon or Canon user."
Nikon and Canon will be happy now :)
But purchasing advice must be consumer´s conclusion, because I would say: If you want to enter into a system with better colour reproduction, specially if you come from the flatness of Canikon colour, jump ship to Pentax right away. Every living system have their own pros to jump in.
Ok DPR. What about to just add more pages to the ongoing review? With this I feel nostalgic like internet by wire phone modem era, when we have to spend an hour to display 1 picture of a hot chic. That was happy days!
Duckie: 08 would be nice but way too expensive. So the initial Q with so called standard prime is still the minimalist toy kit (plus spare batteries, plural). The tele is not bad at all for closer distances. Long distance is not that good. Q is very expensive as a system for what it delivers. Best way to enjoy the fun is to keep it minimalist (and put your money elsewhere)
Yeah, the new wide angle lens is expensive and great at the same time, for what I' seen. I'd spend 450usd on a Q body, prime f1.9 and a zoom f2.8 and 50% of my best shots come from them. You don't know what are you talking about. Have you seen any Q on real life? Had you handle a DSLR in your hands? Ignorance, just pure ignorance. On a D4 you can get 10fps of crap too.
duchamp: Wow! Specs wise it looks like a D400 Nikon never made. Should it be in a Nikon pro body (as in D300/700/800) I'd buy one.
I sugest you to try a Pentax and you´ll see...
turvyT: This is not a post. It's just some words of my ongoing post. My post will be posted shortly, after pondering some editorial decisions. I'm short of staff lately, but I'm working at it nonetheless.
I would like to know when your full post will be ready on this update-preview. Or maybe you are you are dedicated to post on others newer previews-updates? Are you biased?, or receiving any profit from the others ongoing previews reviews?
select: I think Pentax makes very good cameras and this K3 is really good... probably the best in its sector.The problem is lack of lenses... they don't even have a 35mm f1.8 for cheap...
Pentax DA 35mm f2.4 is a better performer than the Nikon 35mm f1.8, both wide open and on equals apertures.
PedroMZ: Is it just me but the Olympus still appears to to outperform the others even at ISO 1600? Does Olympus sharpen more than the others? Please don't shout,I am just asking politely,something which appears to be rather uncommon at DP comments these days.
mferenczWell, not everyone cheat on financials statements
Thanks DPR for this prepreprereview, jeje.It´s welcome anyway.
German techs of Photozone discovered sometime ago that Olympus cheat on ISO. I. E. Oly ISO 1600 is equivalent to other brands iSO 3200.