diforbes: Never thought I would see Canon's pricing higher than Nikon's in the same camera class. This is concerning.
And Nikon's spec is actually slightly better.
Zafar Kazmi: Unless the sensor IQ knocks the ball out of park, this is pretty disappointing in the context of D800.
And about low light, the D800 wouldn't lose to 5DMiii because at the same display size, a higher MP isn't likely to increase much noise level.
Poss: Haven't shot too many weddings, have you Barnaby my friend ?Haven't got the joy of dark churches where flash use is prohibited (about the majority of them). Event and wedding photogs work in mostly poor lighting conditions where good high ISO performance is a HUGE bonus.
It might not be a bad idea to revisit that paragraph because as it is, it puts a big, Costa Concordia sized gash in this article's credibility.
I don't doubt some wedding pros will use a D800 (me excluded), but it won't replace anyone's trusty D3/D700, especially for those many times a full wedding day when the light ain't all that great.
The image quality won't be worse, if they are displayed at the same size.
zzapamiga: The D800E is a niche product that would have more limited production than the D800, that is why it costs more for less. I am interested to see how well it sells. I would certainly buy the D800E over the D800.
Regarding those who say that its 36.3MP resolution is too high for their lenses. It has the same pixel density as a 15.4MP APS-C sensor which is less dense than the Nikon D7000 16.2MP APS-C sensor. I don't see the D7000 sensor out resolving Nikon's lenses. Sony has released a 24.3MP APS-C which if expanded to FF size would be 58MP!!! And this 24.3MP APS-C sensor still does not out resolve even the crappy NEX kit zoom lens.
Those who say the files as too big and their computers are too slow, how old is your computer? Any modern computer would easily be able to edit the photos and hard drive space is very cheap. If you can afford a $3000 camera surely you can afford a new hard drive.
Also, if they are resampled to 16MP, the picture is going to have less noise.
lightsculpture: It would be interesting to see the high ISO performance of the 36mpx sensor. As of now, it seems to me that the only real upgrade to the D700 is the sensor resolution.
Most likely it'll be better than D700 by 1-2 stops if displayed at the same size.
Louis_Dobson: Take a 36MP file and whack on the NR until it has the same res as a 12MP file. You've just added, what, 2 stops of low light ability? It is 6AM here and my brain is too slow to do the maths. Anyway, the wedding shooters can stop worrying...
I though I'd finished with Nikon FF, smaller format cameras were giving me what I needed, and the D3 was sold last month.
Apparently I haven't finished after all. Where do I sign?
http://cyberphotographer.com/megapixelmyth/ Read this before saying higher megapixels cause more noise.
ZorSy: The sample photo (portrait posted elsewhere) has a CAT in it! Could not resist to notice it here as so many whined about people buying expensive cameras and posting photos of cats. It's official: D800 is a perfect camera for people who own a cat.With the latest 2 pro bodies (D4 and D800) Nikon has covered the lot both speed and resolution, bravo Nikon.
http://cyberphotographer.com/megapixelmyth/ High megapixels don't equate to high noise dude. Calm down.
Debankur Mukherjee: With a 36 MP sensor how will it perform in low light - one of the selling point of FF bodies.Moreover remove the pop up flash from such high end bodies, looks more professional........
Higher megapixels won't cause noisier image. http://cyberphotographer.com/megapixelmyth/
Eric Glam: I was expecting Nikon to also announce a couple of lenses that would make this sensor shine. Most lenses start to "break" at 21MPixels.I guess they are working on it, and we should hear about the new "hi-res" lenses pretty soon.
Higher megapixel don't equate to worse noise performance - http://cyberphotographer.com/megapixelmyth/
Henry M. Hertz: so nikon has a 36 MP sensor but only one or two lenses in the lineup that show an increased real life resolution above 21-24 MP.
diffraction limits in mind means you have to shot below f11.
im curious to see how much resolution you really gain when shooting landscapes.
interesting times ahead.
Diffraction pretty much depends on the circle of confusion. Diffraction is determined by print size, so if you don't print too high of a DPI/size, it'll not be an issue. And you could still shoot higher f/stops. It's not like a diffraction limited picture is going to prevent you from printing it. It'll still be sharper than a lower resolution camera no matter what.
NickStournaras: More Mp i.e. smaller sensor pixels and no 16bit raw. I am a Nikon user all my life but i still do not see the point in jumping to this from the D300. I have Terabytes of images as is.
It's not marketing. It's because Nikon found out that their technology is good enough than the gaps between sensels are small enough to not impact the image quality. Do take note that a higher resolution sensor doesn't always mean worse image quality, because if you displayed them the same size, they would have similar noise performance.
AnteGreen: My guess is that Nikon will probably release a D800 (s?) with less pixels and increased speed. To me it seems like a better option to have the high pixel sensor in a large camera and the low pixel sensor in a smaller body. Running between sport events and journalist shooting vs careful in-studio shooting or landscape shooting with pod/stand. In the former speed and versatility is more important compared to having an edge in resolution.
Not really, read this - http://cyberphotographer.com/megapixelmyth/. But I do agree that the file size would kill the workflow.
Cy Cheze: A USB 3.0 connection? This must be one of the first to have that feature.
The still photo performance may be good, despite the extra pixels. Does anyone "welcome" the increase to 36.3? The increment must appeal to "sophisticated" buyers, since this is no budget P&S.
A mono mic only. On-board mics are seldom good, and good ones may simply pick up AF and stabilizer noise. But this model makes an add-on or external mic almost obligatory. Such devices can be ungainly or fragile. Are there any plug-ins that serve double duty as earphone monitor and stereo mic? This might be less trouble and work as well as a "big weiner" propped on a thin stem stuc in the hot shoe.
No sensor crop mode in video? Some Canon and Panasonic models have it.
Is the AF in video mode essentially the same as the "catch up" one of the D5100?
You wouldn't get worse noise performance. If you displayed/printed both images at the same magnification, you'd get the same noise performance.
steven_k: I wonder if Nikon has fixed the LV MLU function?What I mean is when you go into LV, focus then take a picture, does the mirror still flop up and down? I hope they did. Shooting 36mp will require the utmost in technique. Tripod, MLU, precise focusing via LV, and IMHO being a landscape shooter, I would forget about any of nikons zoom lenses up to the challenge of 36mp, forget about the 24, and 45mm TSE lenses, there performance on a D3x when shifted were far fom desirable. Realistically, Zeiss MF will yield the best results.
Not really, if you are going to print it the same size as the D700, you wouldn't see any flaws.
Serych: Megapixels, megapixels, megapixels :-((( I am waiting for this camera from the moment D3S apeared and there was hope, that Nikon shall upgrade also D700 to D700S (with video capabilities). I was waiting because of fantastic ISO range of D3S. Even D800 has nice ISO range, but I am afraid of much worse noise parameters with 36MP sensor. It's a pity, that Nikon doesn't plan to produce two variants, something like D800X and D800S.
You wouldn't get more noise. If you displayed/printed both images at the same magnification, you'd get the same noise performance.
Khizer: Nikon's website states that the D800 incorporates technology borrowerd from the flagship D4. D800 has 36.3MP compared with 16.2MP on D4. Does this mean that D800 has better IQ?
You effectively get higher resolution even after downsampling. Because the AA filter is not as strong on D800, the D800 is likely to be sharper than D4 even after downsampled.
rojj: Six months or so after the D800 hits the market, I wonder what a used D700 will be going for?
Shelly Glaser: Just wonder what will they put on the D4X?
I think D4X will be an awesome camera, given that D3X is so much better than D3S in terms of image quality, even though it is older. The noise performance is even better than D3S. Before you say anything, you wouldn't get more noise for a smaller pixel pitch if you displayed/printed both images at the same magnification, and you'd get the same noise performance.
Upadhya: The ISO capability of the D800 looks to be very much same as the D700. Will the new 36MP sensor have any negative/positive impact on the ISO handling? Any thoughts?
You wouldn't get more noise. If you displayed/printed both images at the same magnification, you'd get the same noise performance. You guys just got fooled, me too.
You wouldn't get more worse image quality. If you displayed/printed both images at the same magnification, you'd get the same noise performance.