Beckler8: What's the reason again for this NOT having interchangeable lenses?
"Yes, a new line of lenses. That's what I was suggesting "
No, wrong. You can't build new lenses of lenses that are touching the sensor as it's that close. The lens and camera body were designed as fixed lens system together. You can't make it ILC. For ILC, it's E-mount
Marcelobtp: Sony should and probably can implement via software update a pixel shift alike technology on all of the 3 A7markII.A7SII would be much more appealling to a much broader public.
Pixel shift maybe nice but only works with tripod and with still subjects. It has very limited use
Sports Dad: Looks good, but to me it seems over-priced. The A7Rii is better in almost every way possible and barely $200 more. With no OSPDAF and only 12MP many (not all - don't spaz Sony fans) photographers will be turned off. $3000+ cameras make up about 1% of the market, but it it were up to me, I get an open-box A7Rii and do a lot more with it. For anyone who can't afford a camera like this, just get a GH4 or NX1 with some very wide aperture lenses. The NX1 also has stabilization for any too. You'll save close to $2000, but ultra-low light will be a little more difficult.
A7S II can also do 120fps in 720p
cgarrard: I wish they would use flush lug straps.
That said, this is the most desirable of all the A7 series cameras to me to date.
Since when have you turned into videographer? Oh, yes, it's still megapixel thing with you.
A7s II is lacking the new on sensor PDAF ability of A7RII
nimrod1212: I'd sacrifice 5 axis stabilization for a much better codec. The S-Log profiles are kind of wasted given the bandwidth limitations of crappy XAVC-S, a prosumer version of XAVC. If they had just added in-camera video recording at 10-bit / 4:2:2 to the A7S II, I'd buy the damn thing. Not sure why this is not the case considering 50% of the customer base is apparently professional videographers. You can't even use the argument of protecting so-called "higher end" models, since the Sony PXW-X70 does this already to SDXC cards using XAVC long GOP, and that camera is $1000 cheaper! That great sensor is effectively crippled by dumbed-down XAVC-S. To cap it all there is STILL only 8-bit output via HDMI. Guess I'll hang on to the GH4 system a while longer.
nimrod1212 , sensor size is not irrelevant to the price argument. X70 is only only $1,000 cheaper, despite the fact it's sensor is 8 times smaller.
In any case, there would be A7s III in a couple of years. There is clear path to upgrade in future
M1963: Three articles on the Sony Alpha 7R II in four days. Not quite sure what to think of it.
Alpha Photo, don't believe this guy idiotic posts. Look at prices on Amazon. It's fact that Pentax cameras lose value real fast, not on ebay like this guy is claiming about A7,but even on Amazon itself. There is significant price drop in six months on Pentax cameras. I have followed this trend for years and I have seen it happen every time.
jonny1976, you are posting nonsense. The launch price for K3 was $1,299.95. So $500 (and you can get cheaper than that) is over 50%. Most Pentax cameras are about half the price in six months. K01 dropped to $300 from $800 within a couple of months. Same happened to K50 (started with $800 now sells for less than $400)
Sony cameras hold their prices a lot longer than Pentax. Ask someone who is waiting RX100 III to drop prices, despite the fact it is more than an year old.
jonny1976 is a longtime Pentax troll who has been posting anti-Sony posts since he switched from Minolta to Pentax back almost 10 years ago
Mal69: I see, a lot of posts mentioning 4K and they think it's 12 Megapixels, it's not, I cannot remember the exact figure, around 8.3 Megapixels, certainly under 9 Megapixels.
4K televisions are dropping in price rapidly, 4K projection not quick enough due to Sony being the only manufacturer with 'affordable' 4K projectors, maybe next year for JVC and Epson, maybe even a few others.
So what's my point, 4K down scaled produces far better and sharper 1080p footage, I mean real sharpness, not edge or contrast enhanced sharpness which can be ugly on large screens, halo anyone, no thanks, natural sharpness is good, I doubt this Sony has great dynamic range for 4K compared to a larger sensor Red or Alexa 2.8K camera but it should still be good.
The video on A7s is 8-bit. Why would anyone -- not just you -- doubt that that will have lower DR than 12 bit cameras like Red and Alexa
Zakzoezie: I try to figure who will buy this toy. If photography is your hobby or profession you invest in a long term camera that gives you the flexibility to click-on any lens that you need for certain purposes, even if you start with 1 lens you have the flexibility to extend lenses later. In case you want a compact camera just to take decent family pictures, you expect it to be priced somewhere between $50 and $300 because other compacts are priced like that and because it's simply not worth more. And in case its a really high quality compact, you might even go to around $500 max. Another possibility is that you are a rich hipster that likes to show off anytime anywhere to friends & family you can also do photography with a nice & sexy looking compact camera. Well in that case there are very interesting brands on the market to do that, but believe me, it is not going to be this Sony. I mean, can you imagine your friends and family look at you and say: "OMG, pffff, he's holding a Sony ..."
ok, I looked at your link and that is indeed a preview of C300 II (the newer version). I won't call it full review, but you got it. He has reviewed one more Canon since 5D III. That hardly qualifies as he reviews all cameras.
Isn't C300 older than 5D III? And by the way, last I remember, Bloom sold his C300 and replaced it with F55 and FS7. You claimed Bloom reviews every camera. That's blatantly false statement. He reviews mostly cameras he likes (he did review Blackmagic camera even though he didn't like it, but that was an exception).
I stand by what I said. He hasn't reviewed any Canon since 5D III and never a Nikon except short comments on D4 and D800 which are old by the way.
Bloom doesn't make a living from reviews like DPR or some other review sites. He makes living as professional film maker and as I said, right now he is shooting for CNN's The Wonder List (season 2).
Zakzoezie, these are not camera reviews. This is just short paragraphs on various cameras . His reviews are long video reviews like this A7s review
He has not reviewed any Canon since 5D III and no Nikon review. Even D800 is pretty old now
Did he make money of Kessler Crane putting his name on some product? Big deal. He has publicly stated he doesn't get money from reviews. I have no reason to believe his is lying. He makes money from making films and documentries, currently working for CNN The Wonder List (for more than year now)
shoevarek: If that is how 4K video looks like then I do not understand what is the fuss about.
neatpicture, youtube has it's own compression problem. Try to compare A7s 1080p vs GH4 4K downloampled to 1080p. There are studio samples on DPR. What difference do you see?
Use Vimeo. Better quality than youtube
RidgeRunner22: One issue I see is the problem of handheld 42mp shoots. Without any form of IS I think this was meant for the tripod.
Photato , even your buddy here BorisK1 said the max shutter speed you need (for pixel level sharpness) is 1/200. This isn't a problem on high ISO sensor. I am pretty sure most people would be happy with sharpness they see even at 1/35 sec.
No, you don't need a tripod with RX1RII
I didn't know Canon now has 35mm OIS. Do they have 50mm OIS prime?
Photato, you really never answered my question. Let me try again. Given Canon doesn't have stabilized 35mm prime, are you telling us Canon DSLRs are unusable without a tripod? When are you switching brands?
"And finally we don't know his selection criteria why does he review one camera over another ? "
We know his selection criteria. He said it himself. He reviews cameras that he likes and doesn't if he doesn't like the camera. Plus your claim isn't true. He doesn't review every camera. He doesn't even review most cameras. You won't find his reviews of nikon cameras except a short review of D4. I don't think he has reviewed any Canon camera since 5D III
As for commercial benefits, he has publicly stated that he has never received money for any company. He works as a film maker, not as a reviewer.
Photato, you are making claims even though you really don't have any practical experience with the camera. It's funny coming from Canon fan like you as none of Canon 35mm prime lenses are stabilized. I guess you can never use a Canon camera without a tripod. Better switch to A7RII with IBIS
"If you need 1/2000s to get a pixel-sharp shot on a 18MP sensor"
Yes, but you don't need 1/2000s on 35mm eqv lens. You need 1/35sec, which isn't a problem.
RX1RIIis a streety walkaround camera, not a studio camera. If someone wants to walk around with a tripod, good luck to them. I am pretty sure a person can take sharper images and print larger with RX1R II than any 18 MP DSLR.
"Plus, go look at 4K footage downrezzed to 1080p and you'll see a ton more detail than in most 1080p."
That's only true because many 1080p cameras were never really were truly 1080p (take for example all Canon DSLRs that have soft 1080p, real resolution is much lower). If the original 1080p is true 1080, you won't see sharpness increase by downsampling 4k to 1080