JDThomas: Curious as to why a comparison wasn't run with a D3s. By all accounts the best low-light sensor out there with the added bonus that it has the same resolution. And probably the same sensor with nothing more than processing tweaks.
D3s is sports oriented camera with faster AF for tracking and larger buffer for burst. A7s is video camera with better video quality .
jonny1976: as expeted minimal gain and mostly after iso 25600 where the absolute quality is simply too low for quality work.
The "gain" could be higher in video. It's 12 MP FF so it can read every pixel for video.
I want to see SLog2 in lowlight as that wil preserver the highlights while other 2 will blow the highlights
Lets see the video still shots now. Still studio shots and low light.
My guess is full sensor readout makes a bigger difference there even for low light.
Hey, DPR, lets post video studio shots too
tom1234567: Not as good as the Pentax K3 in low light
He just wanted to pitch in K-3 advertisement in the topic -- which even isn't the best APSC in lowlight. Fuji ones are better.
aarif: excellent now if it only had a better AF to go with the low light performance I would have bought it, not in love with it's battery performance too
The CDAF AF would be a lot better on A7s than on A7 as bigger pixels would help in lowlight with CDAF, I think
Philly: What is the aperture at 200mm equivalent? EDIT: just saw chart in preview. So it's @ f4 already at 200mm equivalent.
F4 at 150mmm
beril2013: i want a camera that takes excellent photos and excellent video for family.. Taking photos of my daughter while she is swimming at the beach etc... My budget is $1000 . I don't want a DSLR. Is the rx100 iii suitable for me? or can i get something better for $1000? size doesn't matter by the way.
If you don't care about the pocket size and can increase the budget a little, RX10 would be pretty cool. It's weather sealed and has larger more versatile zoom
Valentinian: What is the competition ?Lumix LX-8 - same sensor size; 24-90mm (equivalent); F 2-2.8to be announced July 16
It will be very interesting reading DPR's comparison of the two cameras.
If it's announced on July 16, it will ship in Sept/Oct, given panasonic history.
That leaves RX100 III 3 to 4 months to lock potential buyers without competition
kits: Wonder how the video compares to RX10?
Video section is already in the preview
G1Houston: Is the lack of an external charger really a negative?
I have come to appreciate the fact that when I carry these cameras on a trip, I do not have to pack all the bulky chargers with them. I just have to bring a single USB cable that I already use to charge my phone and tablet. Is that really so difficult to charge a separate battery at night time in the camera? It is also possible to use those external batteries we have for the smartphone to quick charge the "camera" in the filed. I thus suggest Dpreview to reconsider calling the lack of external charger a "pro," to encourage companies to simply the accessary. It drives me mad that each one of my camera has a different battery with a different charger.
Jeff Keller puts this "con" everytime he reviews cameras but never mentions that being able to charge with USB without carrying a charger is a big po. You can charge while driving, on a plane, in a hotel, etc.
This seems to be Jeff Keller personal agenda, even though external charger with two batteries (made by third parties) included are less than $20 on amazon
dwl017: Who exactly is this camera design for? John Doe and his his wife with two kids? or the hipster single guy with disposal cash? The $800 price point seems massive to me given the fact that its still a point and shoot camera. I also disagree with the whole pocketable argument since I doubt very few people are shoving there new $800 gadget into a pants pocket.
So again back to my original question just who sets out on a saturday afternoon to buy a $800 point and shoot camera and how exactly is the price justified given the fact that 90% of the photos taken around the world today are only posted to Facebook, Twitter, Flickr or Instagram. Depending on the state you live in within the US this is $850 camera when tax are added.
Perhaps the original Sony RX100 might even be a better option at the end of the day? price point wise. I did a quick Flickr scan of the Canon S120 and all the photos look no different from the current Sony RX100 model.
If you can't see or need quality and performance difference between S120 and RX100, just stick to your cellphone.
This is a camera for people who want a pocketable camera with better image quality and are capable of seeing the difference in image quality and performance.
Eleson: I'm curious about full sensor readout. Is that actually true?
No, rolling shutter has nothing to do with full sensor read out. That's a different property of CMOS sensors.
Full sensor read out means the camera does not skip pixels and lines to reduce 20 MP to full HD (around 2 MP). It reads all 20 MPs and then downsamples it correctly for Full HD
Most DSLRs and still cameras skip pixels that results in lower quality video (lower resolution and moire.)
Just a Photographer: Pretty expensive considering the fact that you need an external 4k recorder to be able to use this camera to its full.
Not to mention that Full HD video quality would be much higher than 5D III, as it's full sensor readout (all 12 MP) that is downsampled to Full HD
cgarrard: "does the RX100 III remain the ultimate compact camera for enthusiasts?"
No. It is now the ultimate compact for enthusiasts.
Thanks for speaking for all "enthusiasts". Who appointed you?
DaddyG: 12fps in jpeg. Anyone know what does it does in RAW & buffer size? thx
12 fps in raw (25 or 28 frames buffer - seen different numbers on different sites)
joyclick: K3 gets 83% (after all attempts to avoid reviewing it at all don't justify) and XT1 follows on its heels and gets 84%
LOL @ Pentax fanboys again whining
citizen2012: 8-bit video? I would hold on to my savings...
Yeah, like other DSLRs and mirrorless do anything else but 8-bit. Even Canon 1DC does 8-bit (along with GH3). GH4 is the only exception but requires external recorder for 10 bis. Internal recording even on GH4 is 8bit 4:2:0
Superka: Low light capability is great! But this is not all!!!Lets see its Rolling Shutter!It would be severe, I suppose.
Don't shake camera like crazy. Even Alexa has rolling shutter, but it has been "A" (main) camera to shoot almost all Hollywood movies in the past 2 years.
EOSHD: You can't judge noise levels on YouTube. Compression removes it. ISO 1600 looks worse than 25,600. There's also the matter of rolling shutter on this camera, it isn't pretty! http://www.eoshd.com/content/12631/sony-a7s-rolling-shutter-test
Larger sensor with so much much more surface area is going to have rolling shutter (without global shutter)
Use the tiny sensor m4/3 camera if you don't want rolling shutter