nowo1978: The Nikon D4s and Canon EOS 1D X are "purposely excluded" because they are "in a class of their own", but the Pentax 645Z is evaluated with the bunch? Strange things happen around here ...
645Z is not a sports camera so DPR is correct. 645Z isn't in the same class as 1DX and D4s
Nukunukoo: I wonder if Samsung instead opted to MFT to begin with?
MFT os not open. It's proprietary mount owned by Oly and Pana.
technotic: The bigger story here is is this the beginning of the implosion of the photography industry in general? Samsung are a highly profitable company from what I know and could easily sustain some losses in the camera division if they saw a future in this business. Is this sign of things to come?
"Sony Digital Imaging is a sole consumer oriented division."
Just a Photographer , not it' not. It's part of Sony pro video division.
They started with the 14 MP sensor also found in cameras like K-7. That sensor wasn't that good in 2010. It would be a couple of years before they released a camera with a better sensor, but by that time they were behind Fuji and Sony.
M1963: Three articles on the Sony Alpha 7R II in four days. Not quite sure what to think of it.
jonny1976, is this the best you can do after proven wrong? Did Pentax not pay you enough this week?
Here is GR that was sold for $404 just yesterday
In comparison Rx100 III still hold it's value better.
For Pentax DSLRs it's even worse. They are all 1/2 in 6 months. You are just a moronic idiot to use this as argument, given you are a Pentax fanboy that loses value more than any other brand.
I don't want 645D. YOu can keep it. Now what are you doing in these comments about A7rii?
Cihangir Gzey: Good review with loads of negative points to warn against a dissapointment later on.This is a 3200-USD MILC which will be changed with a new one next year and value will drop dramatically and only God & Sony knows when a firmware upgrade will come to clear up this beefy software related cons list partially. Hardware related ones will stay there until it becomes a true paper weight. IMO the below items can't be corrected up with any firmware upgrade and real deal breakers for current DSLR users (I only use copy-pasted items partially to avoid being over limit):
Camera focuses stopped down in AF-C, ...Eye-AF and Lock-on AF not available ...Camera drops to 12-bit mode ...Exposure parameters frozen while AF-C is engagedButtons and dials ...Inane interactions ...Buffer is sluggish ...Video never shows low-light advantage of full frame sensor4K shot continuously for 30-45 min can cause overheatingNo touchscreenVery limited battery life (IMHO, THIS IS THE ROOT OF MANY PROBLEMS)
Cihangir Gzey, as Rishi mentioned in the comment, the con list is long since the review is very comprehensive. They can make any camera con list long or short depending on the mode of reviewer and thoroughness of the review.
Doesn't prove crap. Your argument is nonsense. The camera gets gold and 90% because that's what the reviewers think it deserves.
jonny1976 i a Pentax fanboy. I might buy 645D in soon as it will be $900 on ebay, but probably not. It's old camera with CCD sensor, slow with less DR than APSC cameras and no lenses. I think I will pass even at $800
As for GR, here is brand new for $550
You can find cheaper used ones as low as $400
In comparison even two year old RX100 III holds it's value better than GR
Most people in Pentax forum wait six months before they buy as they know Pentax camera will cost 1/2 by then.
In camera industry, Pentax is worst when it comes to losing retail price in 6 months.
jonny1976: looking the comparometer i don't say any revolution compare to nikon d810, living aside the medium format, both in high iso or dr. then i look the sample in gallery and watch my photo of 645d and 30 years lens and i cannot understand if it's the operator or the hype is still only hype
jonny1976 is a long time Pentax fanboy who has been posting incoherent ramblings you see above, for 7 or 8 years if not more. 645D is an old camera. It was launched for 10K now you can find it for less than $3000 on ebay. It's slow (can do 1 fps) , large, not many lens options, and sensor is not even close to modern FF sensor in performance.
jonny1976m you are an idiotic Pentax fanboy, When it comes to Sony, you citee ebay prices, but for Pentax you are citing adorama prices. Do you think we are stupid? You can find K-3 as low as $500 brand new on ebay, even lower for used ones.
Pentax cameras are world renowned for losing value within six months of launch. K01 went from 800 to 300 in 3 months. This has always been true for Pentax. Sony on other hand has much tighter control on prices and prices don't fall as dramatically as Pentax.
You are obviously a Pentax fanboy. 645d with CCD sensor doesn't have any resolution advantage, and not to mention it's much larger slower camera.
Andrew Reid is an idiot when it comes to rumors. A few years ago he would post almost every NAB some ridiculous rumor about some amazing camera Panasonic was about to release. He starting doing this even when AF100 had just started shipping (hurting AF100 sales). A lady working for Panasonic even went to his forum and complained about it. He probably baned her.
That didn't stop Andrew Reid. He would do it every NAB. None of these Panasonic rumors turned out to be true.
Lets also not forget that Andrew Reid also holds dubious distinction that he got sued by Red for defamation once. That's a record for a blogger who blogs about cameras.
GlobalGuyUSA: The biggest losers in Sony buying up the scandal-ridden Toshiba's sensors division will be us -- the consumers. Toshiba was a pressure against Sony getting a monopoly on advancement. You can already see Sony is implementing its sensors in its own cameras first, more than a year before other companies have access to it. It didn't used to be this way -- previously, they gave them to competitors first and only later implemented them in Sony cameras. Nikon, etc, could have had the option to use a Toshiba sensor instead.... but now that option doesn't exist.
I really wish Nikon & Canon had bought Toshiba's sensor business, instead of Sony. It doesn't seem that this is good for consumers. Especially now that Samsung is exiting the camera market, there will be no Samsung surprise. Instead, we're going to feel a Sony monopoly.
Right now, Sony is incredibly innovative, though. So let's see if that holds up. No criticism unless they drop the ball. But they have a responsibility now.
"we may wonder if Intel has lost its momentum with their slow progress recently "
Why do you assume no competition is the reason for no progress by Intel?
Moore's law (not really a law, just an educated prediction) is going to end one day anyway. You can't infinitely improve computer speed or number of transistors on integrated circuit.
The laws of nature has limitations. For example. nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. And you cannot make transistors smaller forever, as eventually you will encounter limitation and unpredictability of quantum mechanics.
That's the problem for Intel, not lack of competition.
"mostly due to their contract with Apple."
Sony was leader even when Apple was buying sensors from OmniVision before 2011
The Toshiba sensor in Nikon cameras was designed by Sony, according to Thom Hogan. It was usual Exmor sensor. Also, Sony owned that sensor fabrication facility before they sold it to Toshiba a few years ago. They just bought it back. That's all.
AeroX: I was waiting for that burning question that didn't come: When will the Alpha 6100 hit the shops
"And one has to wonder if running a line by "clueless guys in India or somewhere?" "
What does this have to do with a random tweet by Sony UK by some low level employee who probably doesn't even know Sony makes cameras? Your post was idiotic.
Do you think Japanese executives or camera engineers are running that twitter account?
juvx: Looks like EVERY Nikon sensor will be made by Sony now.
These Toshiba sensors in Nikon cameras were already designed by Sony, according to Thom Hogan.
GaryJP, you do know thay Sony UK twitter account is probably run by some clueless guys in India or somewhere? You can't reach any conclusion based on on some tweet by some low-level employee
Photato: No word about APS-C
Oh you again. You don't own any Sony camera. So why do you care about Sony APSC cameras? Why do you keep posting these silly comments?
A6000 isn't an old camera. It was released in 2014
Markol: "Wow, that's a hard thing to swallow coming from a journalist."
What's this a journalist interviewing a political leader? This is a gadget review site, and he is interviewing someone who works for a manufacturer. Manufacturers do not talk about future products that are not announced. That guy probably himself doesn't know the date, and if he did and announced it, he will be fired for disclosing such information to public.