email@example.com: Raw: D810 vs A7R2 vs 5DR:I'd pick the Nikon for sharpness, noise, resolution, color.All good. Very subjective.
There is no evidence in raw files that shows lenses produce or add to color.
There is nothing inside a lens that creates or adds color. If there was, optical engineers would know about it, and would improve it, and there would be new patents and articles and discoveries. Nothing. Nada. Just silly stupid people on the internet.
In other words, you have absolutely zero evidence for your faith.
It's your religious belief that lens creates or adds colors to images, even though Olympus, Fuji, Leica, Schneider, Zeiss, none of these companies say anything like that. Their engineers don't have any secret sauce inside the lense, but it's just your home made faith based on anecdotal evidence that their is a secret sauce that no one, not even these companies engineers, know it.
You are really the dumbest poster posting on these forums.
First, of all you have not shown any raws that actually prove your point. You are a liar. And proof has to be valid, not contrast difference or white balance issue that can easily be corrected (I am pretty sure that's what people usually see and imagine their more expensive lens has better colors, even though it's actual scientific/engineering fact that there is nothing inside a lens, absolutely nothing, that creates or adds to color. No where does Olympus and others say they have a secret sauce inside the lens that that has anything to do with color
That's made up by stupid people like you.
"And raws from cameras used with very good lenses prove my point well"
No, that doesn't prove a point. That's anecdotal claim. People claim to see aliens too. I am not interested in anecdotal evidence.
You need to post scientific explanation of your secret sauce that you claim is inside a lens that creates color.
Why has no one in this word has heard of that secret magically sauce that you claim exists? What engineers created that secret sauce if there is no explanation or patent? Nothing? It can't obviously be Canon and Nikon engineers as their sites say nothing about color creating ability of the lens.
You are a dummy. Real dummy.
"More unsupported assertions by you about lenses and color. "
You need to take a basic class in logic. The one who makes a positive claim must prove it. You are the one who is claiming that there is secret unknown sauce inside a lens that creates or adds to color. I asked you to post a scientific explanation evidence for that claim. Where is that secret sauce located? What does it do? How does it it create color? You have not provided a shred of evidence except anecdotal stories.
Thus you are an idiot.
Lenses do not create colors. There is nothing inside a lens to separate colors of light. That is a function of sensor (color filter for bayer) plus software.
There is no hardware or secret sauce inside a lens that even understands color
HowaboutRAW, you are an idiot, will remain an idiot. There is no cure for stupid people.
There is nothing in the lens that creates or adds anything to color. That's a dumb idiotic statement, and you haven't given a shred of engineering and scientific reason that would justify that stupid claim.
Here is how color cameras work.
Notice lenses have absolutely nothing to do with color. Lenses can be sharp, contrasty, with less flair and less chromatic aberrations, but there is absolutely nothing inside a lens that creates or adds to color.
Lenses don't add anything to the colors. Colors are generated by the sensor and software, and it's same for both Foveon and Bayer.
You have not posted a shred of logical reasoning on how it's even possible that lenses adds colors to photos. That's absolutely nonsensical statement. You are an idiot
You have provided zero evidence that lens creates colors.
"colour is about the lens mostly"
Np, it isn't. Colors have nothing to do with lenses.
Notice the guy doesn't even understand Foveon sensor. It's same RGB concept but a pixel is stacked on fact that red wavelength penetrates deeper than green that penetrates deeper thn blue.
Now what does this have anything to do with a lens? Absolutely nothing.
The guy is absolute idiot and note not once he was able to explain the secret sauce inside the lens that creates color. There is no such thing inside the lens
More mumbo jumbo pseudo science combined with anecdotal claims. Just trust this clown, because he said it's true, even though he has no engineering and scientific explanation on how a magical sauce is inserted inside the lens that creates color, but just trust this guy. He has seen it himself, just as he has seen the UFOs. It's there.
The guy who just a few days ago said, ""colour is about the lens mostly"" is telling people they don't know anything colors.
According to him, colors are really really made by magic sauce inside lens. How that magic sauce works, what's the scientific engineering logic behind it, he doesn't know. Just trust this guy. Colors are really made by magic sauce inside the lense.
No shortage of stupid pseudo science on the internet.
"How are they empty claims? I've used/owned, tried and rented better lenses."
That's not based on a fact or science. It's anecdotal statements. Well, since you says so it must become true that colors are made by lenses. Yeah, sure.
"colour is about the lens mostly"
No, it's not dummy. Scientific fact is that colors are the result of RGB filter (only three wavelengths) and the rest is software interpolation. It's as simple as that. There is no magical sauce in the lens that creates colors. That exists only in your gullible brain.
Once again, all empty claims and anecdotal statements without shred of evidence.
Scientific fact is that colors are the result of RGB filter (only three wavelengths) and the rest is software interpolation. This is an actual fact on how colors are generated.
HowaboutRAW, who just a few days ago told us "colour is about the lens mostly" claims there is a magical sauce (that he can't explain how it works or where it comes from and can't prove it) inside the lens that generates colors.
No shortage of stupid people.
HowaboutRAW, you have not posted any proof for your claims just empty words and hallow claims.
Colors are really easy to manipulate -- as they are just software interpretation from RGB filer. It is not some deep secret voodoo magic and secret sauce in lenses that generate colors. You are an idiot. It's simply RGB filer (only three wavelengths) and the rest is software interpolation. A Hollywood colorist is able to match two shots taken with various different cameras and different lenses. No problem.
You said, "colour is about the lens mostly."
What an idiotic statement.
cgarrard: Watching Sony since they bought out Konica Minolta has been very interesting. But only in the last 3 years have I seen significant changes in the way they listen to the consumers, implement changes, and improve the products as a result. They are slowly but surely acting more like a smaller camera company than a larger one - and THAT is a good thing.
Someone at Sony got the message, at this point I don't see that it will be much longer for them to make even more changes to cater to professionals and high end enthusiasts alike- so long as they keep the giant SSS Sony on the right path that is.
That's a long winded way of saying- keep improving Sony, your doing the right thing after the initial few frustrating years after you acquired KM.
You aren't making any sense. I didn't say Sony hired me. I know that you and all your fellow cohorts (walt knapp, barry fitzgerald) were against Nex and E-mount.
Remember how you won't even create a sub forum for Nex on your website? LOL. How you never even bothered to review the original Nex and started posting review of the Panasonic and competition around that time, on a website named ironically alphamount? Short memories you have there.
Sony got back on track in spite of A-mount trolls (who were against EVF, against E-mount, and your title for RX100 was "too little too late"), not because of it .
Thanks, and my point stands, that E-mount and EVF was booed by all these I mentioned (includes you), so Sony got back on track in spite of A-mount trolls, not because of it.
AV link does not prove your point. The link is talking about chromatic aberration. All you have done so far is post anecdotal claims. Nothing more
MediaDigitalVideo: Courious how much % processor consumption is needed to run the 4K screen.
On IPS panels (unlike Oled) most of the battery life is wasted by blackit light. GPU will work harder, but I don't think it have that much impact on battery life.
HowaboutRAW, stop posting the same lie over and over again. Lenses have absolutely nothing to do with color.
Notice how the guy keeps repeating the same thing about Nikon and Canon without ever posting any evidence that colors are mostly controled by lenses as he claimed yesterday.
Nikon is doing research on what? Post proof, dude, not empty statements.