joyclick: K3 gets 83% (after all attempts to avoid reviewing it at all don't justify) and XT1 follows on its heels and gets 84%
LOL @ Pentax fanboys again whining
citizen2012: 8-bit video? I would hold on to my savings...
Yeah, like other DSLRs and mirrorless do anything else but 8-bit. Even Canon 1DC does 8-bit (along with GH3). GH4 is the only exception but requires external recorder for 10 bis. Internal recording even on GH4 is 8bit 4:2:0
Superka: Low light capability is great! But this is not all!!!Lets see its Rolling Shutter!It would be severe, I suppose.
Don't shake camera like crazy. Even Alexa has rolling shutter, but it has been "A" (main) camera to shoot almost all Hollywood movies in the past 2 years.
EOSHD: You can't judge noise levels on YouTube. Compression removes it. ISO 1600 looks worse than 25,600. There's also the matter of rolling shutter on this camera, it isn't pretty! http://www.eoshd.com/content/12631/sony-a7s-rolling-shutter-test
Larger sensor with so much much more surface area is going to have rolling shutter (without global shutter)
Use the tiny sensor m4/3 camera if you don't want rolling shutter
This is the most stupid thing of the year so far. Someone forgot to inform JVC that super 35mm sensor is bigger than M4/3 (the mount they choose for the camera).
iAPX: Sony A7s yesterday and now is the BlackMagic answer for digital film cinema.
For serious cinema, it's clearly a great piece, upgradeable in so many ways, and yet so complete out-of-the-box! The tag price is incredibly low considering all the features!
"Sony A7s yesterday and now is the BlackMagic answer for digital film cinema."
It's NAB show in Las Vegas
recorder for a7S
Just a Photographer: Why buy this camera if it doesn't work out of the box as advertised?
4K video is only there when you buy additional hardware.12 MP on itself is not of these days anymore, although it will deliver good images at high ISO's (if Sony Digital Imaging doesn't screw up, like they often seem to do - Great sensors, but bad camera development).
This not the definition of a 4K camera. C500 is a $20,000 4K camera but requires external recorder to record 4K. It's still called a 4K camera.
I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about. Please stop
driftnomore: sony ,flourishing the market with a new camera almost every month.//>,.,)(**&&^%%@$%??//???? STRUGGLING?
Archiver, I don't think "Just a Photographer" even knows anything about video cameras. He appears to be just Canon fanboy and had to post something why A7s is bad
Keep in mind that a typical DSLR skips lines (pixels) to do 24 fps (required for video) so actual video resolution is lower than Full HD. Plus line skipping introduces moire. This applies to all DSLRs.
A7s is advertised to do full HD by reading all pixels, then downsampling that to full HD, so the full HD resolution should be higher than your average 5D3 or D800
It works just as advertised.
(1) It does 4K externally to recorder (2) It does full HD to SD card by reading full sensor data (no line skipping/low resolution moire infested full HD like on typical FF DSLRs).
That's what is advertised and that's how it works
That's funny "Just a Photographer"
(1) C100 does not do 4K (neither internally nor externally) (2) It's not full frame(3) It doesn't even do 60p (neither internally nor externally)
It's 4 times more expensive
Kirk Tuck: Not too sure about the XAVC codec versus the Panasonic GH4's more professional codecs. Seems like the GH4 might have a lot more information flowing through its files. A lot more useful information, that is. And, for most smaller production companies I think not being able to output 4K to an internal card will be a deal killer. The final stake through the heart for video production is that really lousy battery.
I have no doubt though that the sensor will be a real breakthrough with tons of dynamic range and very low noise. Kinda like the Canon C500...
It's not XAVC. It's XAVC S. XAVC is professional codec used in F55. XAVC S is consumer version
Hwirt: Excellent lens that is ideally suited to the compact A7/A7r, not cheap but as usual you get what you pay for.
F2.8 on FF has same DOF as F2.0 on APSC and F1.4 on M4/3. It's pretty shallow
sharkcookie: Is the camera able to shoot faster than 11 fps with locked AF?
bluevellet: "Fastest AF for an APS-C mirrorless camera"
So still kind of slow.
No, the claim Sony makes in the press release says, fastest "interchangeable lens cameras with APS sensors."
That includes APSC DSLRs
ET2: Remember last year in NAB they claimed they were going to "ship it" in July of 2013?
7 months delay.
Black Magic has been turned into a joke of company.
ngollan, they made a PROMISE that this time there will no delay like it was with the 2K Black Magic camera in 2012
They lost all credibility.
They shouldn't be announcing cameras and making false promises when they don't have a product to deliver.
Anyone wants to bet that this year at NAB they will announce something new again even though it won't be delivered?
People pre ordered the camera and have been waiting for almost 10 months now. Same thing happened in 2012
Remember last year in NAB they claimed they were going to "ship it" in July of 2013?
ET2: Most of these online polls are bogus. If you google "dpr k-3 poll" you will see Pentax fanboys had orchestrated campaign on various Pentax forums (outside DPR website) about the poll. That kind of campaign would obviously have impact on the result.
Yeah, fanboys post to a zillion forums about the poll (outside DPR website) and that will obviously have an impact on the result.
Pretty meaning results, and pretty pathetic.
Funny, Giklab, that Pentax has been "wining" all these polls for the past 5 years yet their worldwide market share is still only 2%. Amazing the entire universe seem to be voting for Pentax cameras for 5 years, but yet no one is buying them.
Check my links above for 2008, 2009 and 2010 poll results.
I say these polls are bogus and say nothing about the cameras
See my this post:http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/37248528
2008 (online poll on a site)
Pentax K20D - 70% | 11014 votesPentax K200D - 5% | 814 votesNikon D90 - 3% | 588 votesCanon EOS 5D Mark II - 3% | 555 votes
2009 (online poll on a site)
Pentax K-x - 30% | 562 votesPentax K-7 - 23% | 432 votesNikon D3S - 18% | 341 votesCanon EOS 7D - 15% | 289 votes
s for 2010, K-5 "won" that too on noisycamera poll
Yes, but the point is that online polls like these are worthless, especially when fanboys are going to launch online campaigns on various forums.
Only 3583 people voted so far in this poll, so only few hundred voters will change the result (as they did in fact change even here, as Fuji X100s was #2 when I first checked).