intruder61: Th first time you see the circus it's WOW!!...the second time you go you want to see some different acts...the Hi-Res is a nice party trick, other than that nothing Wow.If Sony can put decent C-AF tracking with an APSC sensor for under $700, there is no excuses for the others.That would have been the nice new act in this circus.
Not just a party trick.....a "nice" party trick ☺
Th first time you see the circus it's WOW!!...the second time you go you want to see some different acts...the Hi-Res is a nice party trick, other than that nothing Wow.If Sony can put decent C-AF tracking with an APSC sensor for under $700, there is no excuses for the others.That would have been the nice new act in this circus.
Kaso: Strengthen the technical analyses of cameras and lenses. Stop the wimpy essays like this one, which is already one too many! No need for opinions by some pretender sitting in a cafe with a fruit-brand notebook and typing out a stupid stream of unconsciousness.
EXACTLY dpr4bb.....we ALL have a right to express whatever we want, then smile and have a beer.
dagobah: Too bad this camera was considered a flop. I feel it was very misunderstood. Personally, I have been happy with mine for thousands of images. It makes me shoot in a way that's quite different than looking through a viewfiender, and for landscapes I've found it's been incredible for composition. Good for street photography, too. Looking at the LCD is much less conspicuous than looking through a viewfinder. It is not good for anything fast (e.g. sports). Anyway, mine has been great for travel. It fits into a tiny bag with the 40mm XS, so that allows me to fit an extra lens in my carryon compared to a DSLR.
It was a success in Asia, where it mattered.
@dpr4bb...democracy with a free mind is a biitch.
Kirk Bruner: Same sensor with different features. Why does the writer have so much trouble wrapping his head around that when Sony and Nikon have been doing that very thing for years?
because this is DPR and shouldn't be taken serious, just have your coffee and a laugh.
well said Kaso,
Richard Franiec: Thanks to this story, more people know about EOS M3 than ever before and interest in the camera is raising according to the survey.Shame on you, Canon marketers, bring the M3 to USA. LOL.
if you want a "hypnotic draw", play golf :)
@ rrccad....FF may not make sense for some, but Canon may fit a FF sensor in the M4 .... there's plenty of room in there, plus a FF body for under $1000....??..you never know ;)
CTaylorTX: Bravo, Damien, for writing an essay that is a well thought out evaluation of Canon's lack of presence in the CSC camera market, and not just a puff-piece that parrots the company marketing line! I do not see your article as an attack on Canon as much as an evaluation of what Canon MIGHT have done in the early days of the CSC market, and where they would have been had they jumped on board. An interesting thought - how different would the CSC / Mirrorless Market be today if either Canon or Nikon had come out with a DSLR with no reflex-mirror system but sporting a big, bright EVF instead?
don't you understand, you are irrelevant in Canons marketing of THIS product in the USA.Your population base... (compared to Asia, Europe, ah what the heck, lets just say the rest of the world who are getting the M3)... is insignificant.
....and what's with the Panasonic images when this is a Canon article...typical DPR stupidity.
Daniel, your post is BS.
First you say...."Either way, its exclusion from this massive market doesn't do the camera any good. Neither does it help the credibility of the system."
Then its..."As things stand this appears another half-hearted attempt at providing a compact system camera, just to have one on the books."
Your thinking pattern is why its not selling in the USA, BTW the world is a lot bigger than you think.
The Canon EOS M's were the second biggest seller outside of the USA....9%of the marketIt was beaten by the Sony Nex with 11%.Olympus took the next 3 positions.
If you really want one, buy one on Ebay and stop Biitching.
Jerome Kwok: Canon just realized mirrorless cameras are more than a point and shoot with removable lens. M1 should have been what M3 is offering right now.
Sony and Fuji demonstrated mirrorless can be the future. Now Canon is at least 2 years late. I hope Canon is serious this time. Don't use black and white LED matrix and compact flash anymore.
so how has this affected your photography Jerome?
art99: Gee Sigma, your NX1 is not even full frame. I was interested is seeing an equivalent wide 1.4 on the NX1 lineup but Samsung,you really need to up that sensor size for me to open my wallet. Again, no cigar.
hey art99, go back to sleep.
dwill23: SWEET! ANOTHER AWESOME LENS THAT CAN'T FOCUS!
Unless you have live-view focusing, these lenses are junk, for shooters like me who don't want to fuss with manual focus. Sure it's higher priced and blah blah blah so more pros would buy it and not whine about manual focusing, but also, if pros can't get the thing to focus, even with maxing out the focus adjustments with the USB dock AND CAMERA since it's so far off, then these lenses are really junk.
I've own the 35mm f1.4 and it was awesome, in hard-to-hold live-view focusing.Then I made the mistake of buying the zoom for my non full frame camera (canon 70d) and what a mistake! Zoomed backward to canon lenses, horrible AF performance, etc. Zoom so slow you can't whip it zoom around for special effects. Terrible.
At least this one doesn't zoom (backward). Can't Sigma spend a tad more on the canon mount, of which they sell 3x more than the nikon mounts? (According to the amount of reviews at such places at BHPhoto).
@ dwill23, you even know what you're talking about?
ericnon: At last a real contender in the ILC market!Taking all these improvements into account nobody can argue that Canon doesn't listento their customers!
@T3....buy it off ebay or amazon.jp
sderdiarian: Richard, is there any improvement in its tracking ability for action shots?
put a 100-300 on it and see if that's better :)
Tapper123: What sensor improvements have been made?
Any less noise at high ISO or increase in DR?
Redesigned for the high megapixel image to be taken on a tripod...new is different.
what's wrong with the existing sensor?