ozturert: The results are as bad and as good as I expected. The price and optical quality are not in line, I think. I'd say the lens deserves max 600$.
@ozturertI had a tryout at my retailers shop. Paired with an A7II it is not so bad. Limitations of a 10x zoom should be known, so either one is willing to circle around or not.
On you D700 it was "sharpness perception" - I doubt that the D700's Sensor was able to overcome the optical wakeness of the lens. The D800 ha 36MP, so sharpness drop to the borders/edges are much more visible.
theprehistorian: Looks alright to me for what it is. It's a bit of a dog's breakfast at the wide end, and full telephoto lacks acuity, but you can't have everything! Looks a decent enough lens if you really don't know what perspectives you'll need. It's not really my bag of fish, but critical image quality in the portraits is excellent. I'm just not sure superzooms are really in the spirit of the A7 cameras though.
"for non-critical shooting, e.g. on holiday" - that's exactly reason why I will go for that lens. And most of these photos will not be sized bigger than 5x7,5", so extreme borders and corners do not really matter.
For the critical shootings I have my primes with me (35,55, Canon 24TSE, and as soon as available the 90 macro).
Have you taken a look at it? The built quality is very high and the AF (on an A7II) is quite fast. Compared to the competitors FF super zooms entry price (Canon 2.499 €, Nikon 999 €) not much overpriced for my understanding.
I tested it a little bit during Photokina 14.First of all it feels very solid, built quality is on a very high level, same goes for the lenses. Played a little bit with the 1650/2.8, 50150/2.8 and the 85/1.4.Focussing was quite fast and accurate, and the jpegs ooc looked pretty good. There was also a video set up where I could play with the video recording.
Of course this was more playing than testing, but I was very impressed by what Samsung has done here. In the meantime I read that they already updated FW by listening to customers - also a plus.
I am very interested in how DPR will judge it after a real testing.
If one is not biased by brands, one can get a complete and premium package with the NX1 and the good lenses. However it will likely suffer from the high price level. Admittedly fair for what you get, but you need to be unbiased enthusiast willing to invest 4,5k to get the full package (NX1, and the three lenses I indicated above).
Ridiculous with how much impertinence some guys here demanding DPR to do what they want to read.Paying nothing and demanding tea to be served in Dresden China for free....
DPR is informing related to every brand and that's just fine. So this article is I assume very well perceived, independly of the market share of individual camera models.I at least appreciate the article and the work the guys spent on writing it.
If you don't like an article please don't flood with inappropriate criticism.
A very proper follow up of DPR.
In fact the current topic handles a real issue with the camera, although not for everybodies usecase a critical one. Whether to request the fix or not - up to the user.
The trend of many guys to go for any new camera on the market to be the first one finding issues has two sides.First of all it is positive because flaws are going to be known, and the way of addressing it to the manufacturer leads in most cases to commitments for resolutions.On the other hand objective investigations are going to be bashed and exaggerated by opposing fanboys. Which leads into uncertainties on product interested people.
In that sense such objective articles like this one are quite helpful.
Maybe in future the manufacturers are going to adapt their quality processes prior product releases. Maybe just hoping...
karlwunsch: Please, DPReview, make a head-to-head comparison of a77II and 7dmk2.
Of course there is nothing wrong with asking for a comparison.
My catch question intended to get some arguments for discussion.There are no real standardized test routines the score and the judgement of a camera is mainly based on the personal impression of its test engineer.
But again, what is the sense of its outcome?
Why are begging for a comparison inter-brand?
What interesting results could come out?
Well done Sony. The IBIS and the XAVCS are reason to jump onto this horse.Hope they'll bring an A7RII, too, because I'd directly go for that camera.
Why is it mandatory to be a pro photographer?
I am advanced enthusiast, owning A900/A99/A7R/A7S and all G/Z lenses except 35G/70300G/500G.Not enough to be recognized as a support-worthy customer. Unbelievable.
F..k o.f, Sony...
I would interpret this advertisement saying that they did something what nobody believed Canon would ever do.
Coming up with a WL portable printer or another DSLR would make no sense in my mind.
As they didn't extend the EOS-M series and witnessed the success of Sony's A7x I could imagine they are coming up with a FF ML.
abortabort: Still no word, despite visiting and reporting on the Sony booth, from DPR about the prototype lenses announced and previewed at photokina? No I supposed that would go against what DPR believe in.
I don't mind this this ignorance anymore. Had a chance to put my fingers onto a 7DII at the Canon booth.Nice one, but in my eyes not more than an A77II, but clearly ahead of the D7100. That's different class to be honest.And read what they wrote about the NX1 - blabla "cheap dials".The NX1 is a competitor for the top class APS-C.
ephankim: Why aren't all the lens prototypes (28/2, 90/2.8 G Macro, 35/1.4 ZA & 24-240) included in this report?
They were all only shown in a closed showcase. For "normal" visitors no hands on possible.
I tried to get an answer related to the G macro - wanted to know whether it's an all IF design or the tube extends at higher magnification.Impossible. Three Sony guys couldn't answer, and the third one asked his boss - nothing. Same went for my question related to the awkward ADI of the new 32 flash gun (and all others...) - when used as fill flash it overexposed by roughly 1 1/3 stop. Again no chance.That's really annoying that they don't have properly trained guys around.
I visited PK14 today, and was very interested in the NX1.
The person I talked was quite competend on specs and usage, and because I was an early bird this morning, there was no big crowd at their booth.So I had a chance to try it with the most interesting "S" branded lenses - the 1650/2.8 OIS, the new 50150/2.8 OIS and the 85/1.4.
It feels very solid, the lenses are very good. And I don't think that the dials are "cheap".
The also prepared a nice scene for video capability presentation. And they showed the NX in diferent pro-alike rigs. The recording was live streamed onto a big screen, and the 4k looked pretty well.
Can't judge it overally professional, but what I have seen, and what I did with it - kudos!
Regarding battery life just respect basic rule number 1.
1) Always, absolutely always keep a spare battery in your camera bag.2) Always, absolutely always keep a spare memory card in your camera bag.
Absolutic: just like with Sony E lenses, the same story repeats. They are releasing a large number of slow 18-1XX (now 28-XX or 24-XX) all in one lenses. No 85 even on the map. I guess the 90/2.8 that you won't get for almost a year is supposed to be your 85. Or use 85 A size lenses with LA-EA4 adapter. I am not even talking about 135FE. not even 85 on the map. Clearly Fuji has a much better lineup now and it is here now. Fuji also has 90/2 (135 equivalent) on the map. Sony is just repeating themselves with their lens history of E mount
Hm. Somehow incoherent what you are mentioning. Comparing apples and oranges. Actually I don't care what FB you are - although apparent - but I don't like this bullshitting from one brand to other in an unobjective way.At first you compare an APS-C system with a FF system. Secondly you compare a system that's longer than 2 years on the market with one that's not even a year available.I don't see a 85 from Fuji. But if you compare the 56/1.2 as a 85 equivalent, then Sony has the 50/1.8 or the Zeiss 55/1.8. And a 90mm is also not available from Fuji yet, and if it is to come, then the Sony does so, too.
If you like Fuji more - fair enough - go and be happy with this gear; it's actually a pretty good one. But please stop doing what I mentioned above...
Additionally for first/second quarter 15:
FE 28/2 (+16mm Fisheye Converter, + 21mm UWA converter)FE 35/1.4 ZA90/2.8 OSS G macroFE 24-200/3.5-6.3
Scottelly: This is pretty funny. This thing has twice the memory of my MacBook Air. lol
The biggest, most expensive MacBook Pro Apple makes come with a hard drive that is only the same capacity as this little card. lol
How pathetic is THAT?!? lol
My MBP has 1TB SSD :-)
miles green: Looks nice. Very nice actually.But interesting choice of name: "Loxia" in Greek means: not straight, crooked...
Loxia is a bird of the finch family and the name giver.