joyclick: No sky is going to fall if Sony stopped selling their"best sensors" to Nikon and others.It may turn out to be a blessing in disguise.There is no reason why a sensor far superior to Sony's "best" cannot be and will not be made.It can and will happen and Sony will be put in its proper place.
Hey guys, It's time for a little reality check. 1. Sony is already King of sensors. Owing in no small part to their number one customer, Nikon.2. Sony is in the sensor selling business. They aren't going to spit in the eye of their number one customer. 3. All this tit for tat about stopping sales to win a urinating contest with Nikon or anyone else is pure nonsensical rubbish!
AngularJS: Another day - another Sony A7r2 post!
"Another day - another Sony A7r2 post!"
Ain't it wonderful!
@Jorginho: "but this all does not warrant so much attention versus so little for other brands." Well actually it does. Remember, DPR is a publishing business. They write about whatever the most people want to read about so more people come to DPR to read. Higher readership greater ad revenue. That is DPR's reason to exist. They aren't going to write about things that reduce total readership.
ilza: Does not it look ridiculous to pixel-peep into samples of noise? To add insult in injury, this noise is produced by a RAW converter which does nobody knows what — but we *KNOW* that it processes RAWs from different manufactures differently…
“Color/flavor of noise” is a very important concern — but there are better ways to access it. And one can do it WITHOUT bringing a particular RAW converter into the picture. About a year ago, I found out that (with Sony-style sensors+ADCs) one needs 6 numbers to completely describe the color of noise.
The numbers are applicable for a particular ISO number (and bitness of conversion). So to completely describe the body’s noise performance, one gets 6 curves (they show how 6 different components of noise change with ISO number).
Of course, these curves would be grokable only for people who can add (and do weighted averages) — but I do not think the corpus is much smaller comparing to those getting satisfaction from pixel-peeping into noise!
@ilza: what book are you guys talking about?
xpanded: Sony should hire Shakin' Stevens as a poster boy for the A7-line:
"You just have to shake fast to counter the shutter shock".
Fortunately Sony will probably soon change mount again.
@xpanded: Should anything intelligent occur to you don't hesitate to write it down.
Neez: This is the first zoom sony should have released for the E mount. Second should be the 70-200 f2.8.
@thx, "They have not released the work horse 24-70 f/2.8 or 70-200 f/2.8 lenses and never will." Well, at least not until next month.
Marksphoto: 2.8 is old news, give us 2.0 and you have a deal.
F 2 presents three problems for me:
1. I'm too old to start weightlifting classes.
2. I'm too old to start a second job.
3. I'm too old to,....damn it, I forgot 3.
RichRMA: Digital Sony Photography Review.
Hey guys, DPR is a publishing business. The more eyes the better. They don't care a flip what camera they are writing about as long as it brings the most traffic to their site to read it. Period. Full stop. Are they happy they can write about something that's also popular? Of course, it makes their job easier. It's that simple.
janist74: Dpreview should hurry up, otherwise Sony releases the Mk iii before the review is complete. Come on guys. I remember when Dpreview was always the first with reviews...
@BB Take your time. Wait until you've shot with the release ver. of the RAW fix till your satisfied.
nikon power: I hate Sony!I only shot less than 1,000 pictures on the grandfather A7 and they gave birth to a bunch of A7's child, grandchilren one after another. How can I afford all A7's children since I want them all????
@ blink: No lossy, it's 100% RAW or nothing.
JakeB: I find those Sony mirrorless cameras look incredibly boxy and ugly, even worse than traditional dslrs, and for that reason alone would never carry one.
Spec sheet is impressive, though, which makes them attractive to gearheads.
@JakeB Yeah those ole boxy cameras were ugly. What were photogs thinking. Hasselblad, Rollei, RB67, Pentax 67. And what was Ansel Adams thinking going out in public with that truly boxy 4x5. Oh, and let's not forget the Kodak Hawkeye.
NoMirror99: Sony, you have a set of great cameras! Now get a great OS for the camera: Bring iOS with touch screen to my cameras!
@Chris, I loved my 4x5 too. I hope that one day digital will catch up to those large negatives. I can smell the fixer now.
iOS on my a7RII, YES!
Alan Brown: was it a Billion dollars to send this to Mars? (vaguely remember this figure in a news broadcast.. might be a whole lot more. )
Great inovations and technical skills to get it there .. no doubt abut that. But you can't walk here on Earth in the daytime and feel 100% safe.
begs the question....
Earth won't be safe until its infestation of homo sapiens clears up.
ManuelVilardeMacedo: Those fools at NASA know nothing about photography! What do you mean 2 MP? Haven't they heard about the Nokia 808? And a sensor similar in size to Nikon's 1-series? You gotta be kidding! It's full frame, 36 MP, or nothing!There I said it. I believe these were the thoughts that ran through many people's minds when they read the cameras' technical specifications, completely oblivious to the incredible technical prowess of exploring another planet. Do they see the benefit this brings to humanity in terms of knowledge of the universe?...Probably not. They're too worried about sensor area, MP count and high ISO to care.
Of course it has GPS, but bummer the satellite Nav system is down.
ronandroscoe: I think chasing frightened animals from airplanes and helicopters sucks.
I like the balloon idea. Then we'll know that the photographers will be scared as hell not the zebras. Sounds fair. You can take my picture if you respect me, and have the patience, and balls to travel by balloon over an African jungle.
herbiecook: Hi Andy,I really like the app. Just one question and I see that someone else would like to know if there is a zoom capability with the app or is there one to come?
When I tap the bottom part of the screen in camera view, all that happens is the exposure/focus point appears there. What am I missing? The elusive zoom slider does not appear!
photogalleryonline: i find it extremely funny to read these posts where people say "i am going to sell my Canon gear to buy a Nikon" or "I am gonna hang on to my Canon 5dmkII and wait for the MkIII" As if you would! When the 5D came out it was revolutionary, now the D800 has the title, we had to wait 3.5 years, i'm sure Canon won't make you wait as long, for $3k the D800 is a bargain in anyones language!
Your either a Canon or a Nikon person, same as it used to be, ie you shot fuji Velvia 50 or Kodachrome 64, don't change, just wait!!
This past 12 months has been a revolutionary and technological leap year for cameras, ie Sony A77, D4, D800, EOS1DX, Fuji X1Pro!
At the rate we are going, will there be anything new at Photokina this year?? I am betting there will be new Canon and Nikon Full Frame 12-16mp plastic cameras for D7000, EOS7D prices, and yes cheaper than a D400 DX Flagship.
I hope to have my new D800 and D400 by then though.....
If you like Leica lenses, the 25mm 1.4 for the Lumix G3 can produce quality that blows away all my Nikon top lenses, an 85mm 1.4G for instance, on a D700. As in 'beyond astounding' at 20x24 in. I wish Panasonic would produce a professional camera body to go with their sensor and Leica lenses. Before anyone gets on their high horse, I started shooting in 1969 with a TLR, and have had all the bad boys down the line starting with a Lenhof 4x5 in. with a Schneider 210mm F5.6 standard lens on a rail. My favorite camera was the Pentax 6x7. That's 2 and 1/4 by 2 and 3/4 inch image on film. Tri-X Professional. And I mean astounding, no hyperbole. Can the D800 do better? I've ordered one to find out.
Kiong003: I am not a pro but I like the features in the D4. Wonder how different it would be using D800 instead at half the price ?
This is not a sports camera!
JMHennig: I thought the MegaPixel War was over a long time ago...
Anybody else worried THIS high of resolution will do more harm than good? I always read that you get diminishing returns when adding more pixels onto the same size sensor and some artifacting will occur at some point.
Guess we'll see, but seems that 36.3MP is better for selling more cameras and stacking up better on paper versus competitors in this class from the likes of Canon than for IQ results, especially considering that low light, high ISO performance is the loser when crazy high MegaPixel is the goal.
Can't wait to hear other thoughts on this
Nikon is on very safe ground here. The Lumix G3 has approx. 71,000 pixels per sq. mm. It produces downright astounding results on a 20x24 in. print within its dynamic range. The D800 has approx. 42,000 p. p. s. mm. So I'm not concerned at all on this important point.