Snowbird_UT: When are they gonna drop the mirror. Of all the systems that could benefit of going mirrorless I would think this one wins hands down. They could make adapters for all those legacy lenses easily enough.
a rangefinder doesn't let you view the world through the lens, the way the reflex system does..
RichRMA: One of the biggest sources of lead in the environment is from vinyl-clad computer and power cables from China. Who knows what they put in the faux rubber?
dragon's dong!!!! is like super viagra.. very expensive, and does not cause oil or dust spot issue.. but apparently it causes one's face to break out in a rash, if you rub it over your face 0_o
xlnt, this will be a step in the right direction, provided they deliver a decent lens selection at launch, and at least a 2/3" sensor.
lacikuss: I like Samyang optics but don't like missing the AF, although for this angle of view it is not relevant.
Anyways if you are considering buying a lens without AF (As I did) try first one of your lenses in MF mode at maximum aperture, go out and take many shots of subjects and conditions similar to the ones you intend to do with the lens you'd like to purchase. Then calculate the rate of "missed focus" and judge by yourself how the Samyang lens will behave in critical situations.
I was contemplating purchasing the Samyang 85mm f1.4 vs the Canon 85mm f1.8. I was very tempted because the good quality optics and the f1.4. I said to me that MF is possible at f1.4 and bla bla bla. Then to be objective I took my Canon 100mm f2.8 macro lens and went out shooting portraits MF at f2.8. then went home and guess what, only 15% had acceptable focus.
So I bought the Canon 85mm f1.8.
Hope this helps anybody thinking of buying MF lenses, just because price. Subjects move and you too ;)
i agree for longer focal lengths, but their ultra wide offerings are fairly easy to focus, even without a splitscreen. the 8mm fisheye is almost impossible to miss, and the 14mm is almost as impossible to miss as the 8mm. granted one is a fisheye, which have notoriously deep dof, and the ultrawide which has slightly less dof than the fisheye.. not much though.
oknahs: Size does matter and the re invention of the camera sensor will be taking shape as RD expands as we see with APPLE. I can only imagine the next chapter in camera sensor development where a DSLR sensor is fitted into the next smartphone. Technological advances today are measured in months not years. The point and shoot camera is a dying breed and eventually the DSLRs magnificent run will be for professionals as sales figures indicate a downward spiral.
isn't that one of the arguments for a curved sensor?
Houseqatz: being able to REALLY edit the images from a camera phone is a dream come true. it's not always practical to carry around a dslr, but i always have my phone on me. the 1020 is the best solution for my needs, mostly taking notes, and quick snaps, and when i want more, it delivers.
i have yet to use a camera phone that is as capable in the image department, or whose output affords as much editing latitude. i know that the 808 is supposed to outperform the 1020, but i have never seen one in the wild.
yeah.. that's what i had gathered.. but it took a while for a raw editor to appear on ios, so.. while i'm not holding my breath, i'm not giving up hope that there will be one, yet.
no problemo buddy, it's easy to get swept up in the moment, especially when reading about the things one is passionate about. As of this moment, i have yet to settle on an in camera jpeg editor, for my 1020, mostly because the nokia jpeg engine itself is decent enough for snaps, and i'm not into 'apping' images. Also, the built in edit funtionality of the nokia software lacks considerably.
the lack of apps for windows platform is heavily documented though, so, i kind of expected to wait, going in.
HowaboutRAW:1. Is there a raw editor for windows phone 8?
2. Do you understand the difference between 'edit the images from a camera phone' and 'edit the images on a camera phone?
being able to REALLY edit the images from a camera phone is a dream come true. it's not always practical to carry around a dslr, but i always have my phone on me. the 1020 is the best solution for my needs, mostly taking notes, and quick snaps, and when i want more, it delivers.
Jogger: Its good to have options, but, i dont bother with RAW on sensors smaller than APSc. At that point, you are just shooting for fun and need convenience more than absolute image quality.
Put another way, if you do care enough about image quality to shoot RAW.. why bother with anything less than APSc.
so, no RAW for m4/3? are such systems not for people who care about image quality?
seems a little hyperbolic to me, but to each their own.
those twist-lock mounting points don't inspire confidence.
I switched to a 1020 from an iphone 4s. sure i miss some of the time wasters, and music apps, but for the most part windows phone os does everything i need it to do. namely integrate with office and deliver work related email. there are a few things that took some getting used to, but no show stoppers.
about the speed of the nokia camera app, you have to treat it like a technical camera, in that you're rewarded for proper composition and configuration of the camera before you shoot. that said, the nokia camera app does quite well in auto mode. can it keep up with my dslr? in some circumstances, yes, but not all.. in some regards it's better, because i always have it on me, but i won't pretend that it can handle the extremes that dslr's are capable of. the camera is second to one, or so i'm told, and even the built in windows camera app delivers when i need it to.
Frank_BR: Well, it's better to spend $600 on this lens than in beer... or is it the opposite?
i'd pay money [not much] to watch someone drink $600 worth of beer, in a matter of minutes.. some extra hoppy craft beer or budweiser or PBR would be worth it..
puking mid guzzling is allowed, but it has to stay down for say.. 20 seconds to count =D
Der Steppenwolf: How is this relevant ? Thermos holds liquids and those are considered drinks not food right ?
you've never put soup in a thermos?
Suave: Hard to get excited about the Canon version when new 24-105L can be had for $640. Hopefully it makes more sense for other mounts, but, a Canon user, this is not the lens I was waiting for.
the power of google 0_o
does it actually work as a camera? or is it purely a trophy 0_o
it's like everyone forgets that consumers purchase apple products because they, by and large, make the decisions for the consumer.. everything must be approved by apple..
i have a 4s, and it is the last iphone i plan on purchasing.. and while the live fliters are alright, and i dont' mind how their HDR mode works, or the burst.. it's no longer about doing things differently.. that was steve jobs apple.. tim cooks apple want's to compete with other manufacturers.. which is fine, bc he clearly lacks the vision for what apple was, that steve jobs had.
pedroboe100: The point is to have a transition to a complete CLOUD system. Quality will continue to improve gradually. For those of us who own Chromebooks, this is good news. I can now upload to Google drive all my RAW files, store them there, edit in G+, share them with family etc. When I get home, I can access them from my desktop. Everyone who is a major OS company is aiming for this anyway. Apple is trying to do it, although awkwardly and Microsoft will also transition into "cloud only" by Windows 10. Next year, I will probably only using
i hope the data is transferred to the cloud, before rav -> jpeg conversion begins..
that sky makes me think, mordor meets matrix =]
Stollen1234: Iphone fan here: sad but the Iphone was the smart phone leader..time to switch to samsung
the photos are not that good especially in the low light conditions..screen too small...
Touch ID is not secure..
LOL, OH NO!!!! my dslr has a tiny screen, and no security!!!! i better upgrade to a more secure camera with a bigger screen and better security.
screen size has nothing to do with the capabilities of the camera. are you an advocate of tablet photography?
hrm.. i have a 4s, and i have live in camera filters..