Houseqatz: xlnt, this will be a step in the right direction, provided they deliver a decent lens selection at launch, and at least a 2/3" sensor.
why would it be limited to a small area? how would it be any different than a filter thread mounted lens adapter?
the wide angle lens is likely to satisfy the snapshot crowd, as many of the images to come out of cellphones are essentially snapshots, with a few that verge on more sophisticated photography
i have a lumia 1020. it has a 2/3" sensor. it's really not that thick.. unless one wears unreasonably tight pants.. it doesn't deliver fisheye images at all,. a bigger sensor would require a different lens than what exists currently, i'm sure they would figure out what focal length would best satisfy their market.. especially if it's a camera centric device.
Snowbird_UT: When are they gonna drop the mirror. Of all the systems that could benefit of going mirrorless I would think this one wins hands down. They could make adapters for all those legacy lenses easily enough.
the point is that a rangefinder focusing system isn't going to show you what the lens sees. which is the important part.
i shoot ir frequently, so i'm used to capturing light that cannot be seen with the naked eye, however, all of that ir information travels through the lens, and in using the lens, and training my eye, and mind, i am able to evaluate a scene and it's lighting conditions.. this applies to visible light too.
sure, we have meters, but if you can't see what you're looking at, then how do you know what's going on? because you trust the sensor? light, through a lens to your eye = zero latency, no lies and no confusion.
beyond that, the ratio between the subject and background of the scene changes with the focal length. those relationships are exaggerated at wide focal lengths, and compressed at long, and those are important factors to composition.. unless you're not taking advantage of those factors, in which case it's irrelevant to your photography.
Michael Ma: As fun as it is playing with pho-focus, trying to fix find the right composition on a picture afterwards because you didn't have a clear concept when you took the picture will never result in anything great.
lol, i'm sure you meant 'Faux-focus' bc 'pho' is a south east asian noodle dish =D
Houseqatz: i jumped ship from an iphone to the lumia 1020, for the camera. however, if apple were to include OIS, and a high megapixel/large sensor, with their version of oversampling baked in, i'd be tempted to go back...
there are so many good ios apps that simply do not exist in the windows phone 8 ecosystem
it would be wonderful =D
all my complaints with the 1020 are the result of being spoiled with the rich app offerings in the ios ecosystem, and the fluid UX, and while the pureview camera system is outstanding, and wp8 is very quick, there are still quite a few things ios, simply, does better.
i jumped ship from an iphone to the lumia 1020, for the camera. however, if apple were to include OIS, and a high megapixel/large sensor, with their version of oversampling baked in, i'd be tempted to go back...
Just a Photographer: What did she actually say?Her English is so hard to understand that it nearly made me stop looking at the video.
Although the idea by itself is nice.Its never a good idea to hold a camera in one hand while holding a flash in the other. You'll loose a lot of stability even though the flash freezes your movement.
Also not of much use to those photographers that don't understand how to operate a flash in manual mode. Many will get horrible results by using these simple wireless hotshoes as their flash will overpower the subject they want to photograph.
For those that know how to use this little cube its a nicely designed simple wireless flash trigger.
Still I would like to have seen a quarter inch screwhole in the receiver so I could attach the flash to a studio lightpole, or monopod.
Edit: I see now that an 1/4 inch screwhole adapter is available, but is it seperate, or do you get it standard with the kit?
hey now, the people in Redneckistan have a long and celebrated history of understanding all accents... it's the city folk who can't seem to understand the thick hill folk dialects
Houseqatz: Quick, somebody compare it to a dSLR 0_o
thanks, the suspense was killing me =D
Quick, somebody compare it to a dSLR 0_o
PowerG9atBlackForest: Can you imagine how a naked, clinically dead metall piece milled down from a massive block of aluminum will feel in your hands. Warm and cosy? - Cold like ice!
aluminium is the most abundant metal on earth, and cheaper to recycle than most people realize
Houseqatz: i almost feel bad for the people who cannot see the potential in this device.. almost..
@electrophoto i agree that it is expensive, and it's not up to industry standard/expectation for a pro level camera image output. however, i immediately thought of applications for content creation that go beyond the typical uses of photography.. interactive, graphic based story telling for one..
i realize that there are plenty of ways to manufacture the same types of graphic interfaces, however, this will open doors that lead to places that our current generation of digital cameras cannot go. tho, it's likely that we're still several generations away from fully realizing it.. still, the creative genius, with the artists eye, will emerge, and they will demonstrate the capabilities of this camera , beyond the initial scope that the inventors envisioned.
@falconeyes are you suggesting that light field photography was fully realized, in the hands of photographers, over 100 years? or that computational photography was even possible over 100 years ago?
good point.. i feel bad for anyone who wastes money, as the implication is that they have no real use for the device.. beyond satisfying their inner gear head. however, a talented photographer, or artist, someone who sees the potential, and is able to unlock that potential through creative pursuit, is not wasting their money =D
i almost feel bad for the people who cannot see the potential in this device.. almost..
a rangefinder doesn't let you view the world through the lens, the way the reflex system does..
RichRMA: One of the biggest sources of lead in the environment is from vinyl-clad computer and power cables from China. Who knows what they put in the faux rubber?
dragon's dong!!!! is like super viagra.. very expensive, and does not cause oil or dust spot issue.. but apparently it causes one's face to break out in a rash, if you rub it over your face 0_o
xlnt, this will be a step in the right direction, provided they deliver a decent lens selection at launch, and at least a 2/3" sensor.
lacikuss: I like Samyang optics but don't like missing the AF, although for this angle of view it is not relevant.
Anyways if you are considering buying a lens without AF (As I did) try first one of your lenses in MF mode at maximum aperture, go out and take many shots of subjects and conditions similar to the ones you intend to do with the lens you'd like to purchase. Then calculate the rate of "missed focus" and judge by yourself how the Samyang lens will behave in critical situations.
I was contemplating purchasing the Samyang 85mm f1.4 vs the Canon 85mm f1.8. I was very tempted because the good quality optics and the f1.4. I said to me that MF is possible at f1.4 and bla bla bla. Then to be objective I took my Canon 100mm f2.8 macro lens and went out shooting portraits MF at f2.8. then went home and guess what, only 15% had acceptable focus.
So I bought the Canon 85mm f1.8.
Hope this helps anybody thinking of buying MF lenses, just because price. Subjects move and you too ;)
i agree for longer focal lengths, but their ultra wide offerings are fairly easy to focus, even without a splitscreen. the 8mm fisheye is almost impossible to miss, and the 14mm is almost as impossible to miss as the 8mm. granted one is a fisheye, which have notoriously deep dof, and the ultrawide which has slightly less dof than the fisheye.. not much though.
oknahs: Size does matter and the re invention of the camera sensor will be taking shape as RD expands as we see with APPLE. I can only imagine the next chapter in camera sensor development where a DSLR sensor is fitted into the next smartphone. Technological advances today are measured in months not years. The point and shoot camera is a dying breed and eventually the DSLRs magnificent run will be for professionals as sales figures indicate a downward spiral.
isn't that one of the arguments for a curved sensor?
Houseqatz: being able to REALLY edit the images from a camera phone is a dream come true. it's not always practical to carry around a dslr, but i always have my phone on me. the 1020 is the best solution for my needs, mostly taking notes, and quick snaps, and when i want more, it delivers.
i have yet to use a camera phone that is as capable in the image department, or whose output affords as much editing latitude. i know that the 808 is supposed to outperform the 1020, but i have never seen one in the wild.
yeah.. that's what i had gathered.. but it took a while for a raw editor to appear on ios, so.. while i'm not holding my breath, i'm not giving up hope that there will be one, yet.
no problemo buddy, it's easy to get swept up in the moment, especially when reading about the things one is passionate about. As of this moment, i have yet to settle on an in camera jpeg editor, for my 1020, mostly because the nokia jpeg engine itself is decent enough for snaps, and i'm not into 'apping' images. Also, the built in edit funtionality of the nokia software lacks considerably.
the lack of apps for windows platform is heavily documented though, so, i kind of expected to wait, going in.
HowaboutRAW:1. Is there a raw editor for windows phone 8?
2. Do you understand the difference between 'edit the images from a camera phone' and 'edit the images on a camera phone?
being able to REALLY edit the images from a camera phone is a dream come true. it's not always practical to carry around a dslr, but i always have my phone on me. the 1020 is the best solution for my needs, mostly taking notes, and quick snaps, and when i want more, it delivers.