Richard Butler

Richard Butler

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On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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surelythisnameisfree: This does seem a remarkable camera. The only problem I have is that I see the tearing/rainbows in the EVF to such an extent that I can't use it. It's hard to believe that an OLED VF would have added that much more to the production cost. Clearly the testers aren't members of the group that do see these rainbows as it doesn't seem to have impacted the score at all

@surelythisnameisfree: I was hoping to get a short review of the X100T written by today but that hasn't proved possible.

If you can live with the fixed 35mm field-of-view, it's a great camera - I can tell you that much. Lots of little tweaks over the X100S.

Not sure I'd buy one if I had an X100S but, since I don't, I'm seriously considering it.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 20, 2014 at 18:45 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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surelythisnameisfree: This does seem a remarkable camera. The only problem I have is that I see the tearing/rainbows in the EVF to such an extent that I can't use it. It's hard to believe that an OLED VF would have added that much more to the production cost. Clearly the testers aren't members of the group that do see these rainbows as it doesn't seem to have impacted the score at all

With respect, I think suggesting some people have a 'defect' in their vision is rather inaccurate. I don't think I've encountered anyone who can't see the effect - the difference appears to be in how distracted they are by it.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 20, 2014 at 06:31 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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armanius: I'm enjoying my LX100. Unless I'm missing an option somewhere, the auto-ISO implementation is horrible. Camera refuses to go past ISO 1600 even when the shutter speed has dropped to 1/8" at full zoom (when in aperture priority).

It looks like the Auto ISO behaviour has changed. It's not *completely* impossible that I overlooked the upper limit setting, since I was mainly writing about thresholds, but I thought I'd checked closely.

Either way, I've re-tested the camera and updated that section.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 22:49 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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mpgxsvcd: This statement is also misleading. "As with the GH4, Auto ISO is not available in video mode."

It has Auto ISO in video mode. Just not with full manual controls in video mode. That is a very significant distinction.

It looks like Auto ISO behaviour is slightly different from the firmware version I based that on. I'll review the text immediately.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 22:39 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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surelythisnameisfree: This does seem a remarkable camera. The only problem I have is that I see the tearing/rainbows in the EVF to such an extent that I can't use it. It's hard to believe that an OLED VF would have added that much more to the production cost. Clearly the testers aren't members of the group that do see these rainbows as it doesn't seem to have impacted the score at all

@surelythisnameisfree - the difference in partly down to the different expectations (having a viewfinder at all is a stand-out feature in this class), but also because the tearing *seems* less noticeable. I've looked at the two side-by-side and I *think* the LX100 might be running the panel at a faster refresh rate, since I don't find it as distracting.

The final difference is that this review was written by me and the GX7 review was written by Jeff. Both reviews highlight the issue and I think the other two factors are more important than this third difference.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 21:00 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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Bram de Mooij: Yes. From today there is LX100 raw support in Photoshop CC and LR :-)

http://fotoxbr.nl/img/s10/v110/p1060329319-6.jpg

@Bram de Mooji - it also reminded me to write a news story when I got into the office this morning.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 20:57 UTC
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ERyc: Some insane salesmen (there can't be technical reason) decided EU people are not allowed to use 30fps video :-( So maybe on next trip to US... I'd somehow understand that limitation on $200 camera but not on $800 (EUR 800 actually) one...

It is a pity you can't switch TV format regions (and you're right to say there's not a technical reason).

Weirdly, the LX100's units of measurement (proper/Imperial) seems to be tied to the TV region, so NTSC models report in feet and PAL units report in metres.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 20:56 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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Harold66: "I'd consider it the best photographers' cameras on the market".

This quote from the review seems odd , like an adjective is missing somewhere. Like maybe the best photographer's COMPACT camera on the market or maybe
consider it AMONG ..
otherwise it would indicate that there is no equivalent camera regardless of the category and price for "photographers" on the market which I am pretty sure s not what the reviewer means. Hopefully Richard Butler can clarify this for us

Stephen Scharf - for all their visual and control similarities, those two are very different cameras (meaning it's an easier dilemma to address than most).

If you can live with a fixed 35mm equivalent lens, get the Fujifilm - it's excellent. The larger sensor means better images and the prime lens means fewer compromises have had to be made.

However, even though its zoom range is short, the LX100 is a much more flexible camera than the X100T. And if you have any intention of shooting video at all, you should get the Panasonic.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 20:14 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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Harold66: "I'd consider it the best photographers' cameras on the market".

This quote from the review seems odd , like an adjective is missing somewhere. Like maybe the best photographer's COMPACT camera on the market or maybe
consider it AMONG ..
otherwise it would indicate that there is no equivalent camera regardless of the category and price for "photographers" on the market which I am pretty sure s not what the reviewer means. Hopefully Richard Butler can clarify this for us

Harold66 is right to say the sentence looks odd. It's actually lost a fragment during the countless re-writes I did (it makes no sense to say it's the best photographer's camera then say it's also the best [subset of photographer's camera]).

The whole statement should (and now does) say:

"I'd consider it *one of* the best photographers' cameras on the market and probably the best zoom compact ever made."

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 18:13 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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Everlast66: There is something fundamentally wrong with the DPReview categories!

So we have "Enthusiast Large Sensor Compact Camera" category here and the LX100 gets 85%, but the Sony RX1 also falls in this category with several times larger sensor and gets only 79%. Surely the sensor (even with an excellent Zeiss lens) can not alone make any camera a winner, but the designers of the two cameras had clearly different criteria when designing the two cameras and the way they are categorized in the reviews affects the results.

Then Panasonic have two cameras in this category, LX100 and FZ1000, and they both get the highest scores (85 and 82) compared to all other cameras in the category, Canon, Nikon, Sony and Fuji ones that are mostly marked in the order of 77-79%. Either Panasonic have been insanely spot-on with their latest cameras, a DPReviewer is a big fan of Panasonic, or the categorization system is not quite right!

The categorisation system was a product of its time. We couldn't have known which way the market was going to develop.

At the time, the large sensor compact category was created for cameras such as the Sigma DP1 and the Fujifilm X100. In hindsight, it's clear that cameras such as this and the RX100 should have gone in the existing enthusiast compact class, but the Canon G1 X seemed closer to the APS-C models, then it seemed to make sense for the Sony to be in that same class...

You're right, it needs fixing, though.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 17:51 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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aerorail: i'm guessing panny thinks sony got away with charging a high price for a fixed lens little camera that revolutionized the industry (rx100)...so they can charge a high price also

That might be some part of it.

But it's also safe to assume that large sensors and expensively-designed lenses that you only get to use for one or two niche models don't come cheap.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 02:19 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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limlh: A good compact apsc mirrorless is not much bigger than this and offers better controls, more DR and lower noise.

The a6000 is a well-priced camera but, improved as it is over the NEX models, I still wouldn't consider it as nice to shoot with as the LX100. Nor can it shoot 4K.

But yes, so long as you only want a 45mm equivalent lens, it will outperform the LX100.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 19, 2014 at 02:02 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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Tom Goodman: You give this camera a higher rating than the Sony RCX100 III yet in virtually every respect the Sony has equal or better performance specs. 85% vs 82%, the percentages are, as usual, misleading and completely arbitrary.

P.S. I don't own the Sony so all of you poised to accuse me of being a fan-boy are going to have to do better than that!!!!!!!

jackf00 - my answer to Tom was explaining how the RX100 III's high ISO score is higher than the LX100s. (Long story short: resolution and JPEG engine).

My comments on the studio page say that the LX100 is better in Raw and high ISO. These two statements are not irreconcilable.

I *think* the difference in movie score is partly down to the Sony having better focus peaking and possibly me mis-scoring the benefit of the 4K. I'll check.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 18, 2014 at 23:47 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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Tom Goodman: You give this camera a higher rating than the Sony RCX100 III yet in virtually every respect the Sony has equal or better performance specs. 85% vs 82%, the percentages are, as usual, misleading and completely arbitrary.

P.S. I don't own the Sony so all of you poised to accuse me of being a fan-boy are going to have to do better than that!!!!!!!

BarnET beat me to it. The High ISO bar of the graph does indeed cover both Raw and JPEG, so the slightly better Raw performance on the LX100 is fractionally outweighed by the better JPEG noise reduction on the Sony. It's terribly fine margins, though.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 18, 2014 at 23:08 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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tipple: Re: personal attacks on Richard. I f you cannot stick to photography comments then why waste your time. Did someone tick you off or are you just having a bad day or life in general?

@Paul Rumohr - I'm sorry you feel that way. All cameras and all lenses have compromises. To my eyes, the LX100 provides a very consistent performance and the drop off in central sharpness at closer focus distances doesn't completely undermine one of the most complete and likeable zoom compacts I've ever used. However, we went to considerable effort to provide examples so that you can judge for yourself. If you disagree with my conclusion, fair enough: at least we provided the evidence to help you draw your conclusion.

For the record - Amazon has never expressed any interest in what cameras we review or what we write about them. I gave this camera top marks because it performed very well and is a huge pleasure to use.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 18, 2014 at 22:58 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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AnalogJ: The "original" files in this review are only mp4s. One of them, the one with the beer tap, is not available for download at all. Please fix this. I'd like to see what this camera is capable of in this regard.

The camera records 4K as MP4s (rather large ones). The files available for download are the ones direct from the camera - no transcoding or editing has been done.

The beer pump sample i's working for me but 4K doesn't appear to be supported by my browser, so right clicking and 'saving link as...' seems the best way of viewing it.

Please let me know if you're still having trouble.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 18, 2014 at 22:52 UTC
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mpgxsvcd: Why does the LX100 conclusion page not allow me to compare it to other cameras. Are the other cameras that embarrassed by these results?

It should do - it does when I try from a non logged-in browser.

In theory clearing your cache should fix this.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 18, 2014 at 22:47 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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larryr: Are you still updating this review?

It says First impressions , plus i can't find a reference to Ricoh I could swear i read before and an unfinished seentence

Thanks for that, both of you. Those should now be fixed.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 18, 2014 at 21:57 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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larryr: Are you still updating this review?

It says First impressions , plus i can't find a reference to Ricoh I could swear i read before and an unfinished seentence

The title bar has been fixed so that it no longer says First Impressions.

I'm not sure what you mean about references to Ricoh. I don't *remember* there being any, but I'd welcome an attempt to jog my memory.

Please also let me know if you've found another hanging sentence. I'm far too good at

Direct link | Posted on Nov 18, 2014 at 21:34 UTC
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100 Review preview (740 comments in total)
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FRANCISCO ARAGAO: It is time to DPR to provide cameras sensor *total* area in mm² (besides the old ones), terms like 1 / 1.7, 4/3 are very misleading.

@BarnET - I couldn't agree more. If we could work out a better naming system for different size classes, we'd start using it tomorrow.

Direct link | Posted on Nov 18, 2014 at 21:24 UTC
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