vscd: PLEASE REVIEW THEM! It would be the first real review since the SD1. Give Sigma the fair chance to compete in the Resolution-Charts.
I like my DP3M and the DP0 is seriously a great camera, but there is no real Review available until now. At least not in your quality ;)
...and even if the Pentax wins, the Pentax costs 20 times the price of the DP3M (retails at 400$ at the moment). ;)
And the size....
...or just go to the SD1 Review and compare it with the Nikon 800 / 645Z on the chart (f.e. choose the green/blue feather). And we speak of the old Chip,not even the Merrill or Quattro.
Which Foveon beats the 645Z? Every Foveon!
(I only speak of the details, I would never compare the lowlight-performance ;) )
Check it in short:
Yepp, that's the thing I was referring too. In Details the Foveon easily beats the 645Z. I have no problem when they loose big time @ISO3200 in the same chart. They have disadvantages, why not.
Akpinxit: what is so "compact" about this camera ?
>As for IQ , I do appreciate sensor quality but on the other hand>any resent camera , scaled down to 16MP , will produce similar IQ
You actually proved that you never used a FoveOn before...
HBowman: Please, stop comparing those cameras with the D800 or 645Z. It come nowhere near in every IQ therm. It might lure the spectator sometimes, on rez only (and after extensive PP), but that's all.
Those are special cameras. Comparing it with any other brand (especially FF and MF) is just wrong (either for the ones defending it and for SIGMA, who just passively endorse it).
Second that. Apart from the lousy ISO-Performance, my Portraits in the Studio (with the DP3M) even blow away my good old Fuji GX680. Ok, except of the colors of a real Portra ;)
Edit: For around 450$ (at the moment), the DP3M is a secret weapon, you probably wouldn't even get a single lens on this price. Not a good one like the attached 50mm f2.8!
Johannes Zander: Look mom, a chock block with a lens!
Or just a tool for people who think different.
PLEASE REVIEW THEM! It would be the first real review since the SD1. Give Sigma the fair chance to compete in the Resolution-Charts.
vscd: I don't know. Does anyone else doubt in the 7mm focal length (14mm equiv)? If I compare it with my Samyang 14mm @fullframe I could swear the FOV is a lot wider. Hmm.
Anyhow, the Samyang always surprises me with it's sharpness and awesome Viewing angle ;)
russbarnes: I thought Canon are meant to have resolved banding? The tulip image is horrendous. And they want how much for it? It's a premium product which has such limited use, the market they should be making this for will surely be incredibly disappointed.
Just watch out for the cameras on your TV, in the News or on the Corner of the playfield on your sport-channel. Seems no Pro cares about the meaning of some pixelpeepers.
I don't know. Does anyone else doubt in the 7mm focal length (14mm equiv)? If I compare it with my Samyang 14mm @fullframe I could swear the FOV is a lot wider. Hmm.
Yep... since Nikon isn't able to do any decent sensors by themselves. What do we do with trousers down? Bend forward with Sony in the back. ;)
pfac: Well me, I'm kind of glad so many folks already have determined they dislike this camera; better chance getting one at the onset. I like working on a tripod, outside, and think it will be a hoot. Good evidence suggests low ISO noise in shadows will be a 1.5 to 2 x stops better than !Dx and likely less pattern noise than my 5D3, which I love with the great L lenses. Rented the Sony A7II with FE lenses and metabones for a week. Yes, less pattern noise at 100 ISO in recovered shadows. Ergonomics, batteries, lenses, sensor dust magnet--not my cup of tea for now. Maybe in a bit of time. Maybe a bit heavy and not as forward thinking as Sony--Canon 5D3 and great lenses make for incredible photos if one uses them. I'll stick with it for now and look forward to the 5DSR that I preordered.
@mpgxsvcd. You didn't shoot 53+, you just made a sensorshuffle. If you can use this technique then you have a steady, not moving, object. If you have a steady object you can also stitch some pictures together. This takes 10 Seconds. Afterwards you have 200, 400, or 600 MPixel. Did they really fool you with this old trick? ;)
km25: The images to me a bit noisey. It low is performance is middle of the road. It would be nice if they offered a nice low light model. But the big thing is lens. they need a road map bad.
A lens road map with a mostly zooms is either weak and/or new. They need some sharp fast primes. But if you want a high MP APS camera, the camera is a very good choice.
Now you start claiming about the moviecapabilities of the Fuji because you're out of arguments, too. I read the whole thread and I think you just recently purchased a NX-1 and now want to defend your decision. If you can live up with your system it's ok. But to nag on Fuji, Canon or Nikon won't make you a better photograph at all. A good photograph doesn't care about his equipment as long as it serves him to work flawlessly. I've seen Pulitzerhonoures pictures made on even worse cameras than a 10 year old Canon or on a 5$ cam from ebay with a recent filmemulsion.
When I look at your galery you should not worry about your equipment at first.
NaumFilm: The camera does not work without the lens (((Who connects lens adapter lenses canon?Who has experience?
Yes, Samsunglenses are better than from "Canikon", that's the reason why everyone uses them professionally. All hail the emperor.
It seems there is no way for fanboys to enjoy a good camera like the NX-1 without peeing on someone else.
Sdaniella: ... next step ...Canon TS-EF 11-24mm F4 L IS STM !:D
11mm TSE equals due the larger lightcircle to an 11mm mediumformat lens. 11mm@MF is about 6mm FF equiv (645 or 6x6)... this will most likely never happen :)
Ben O Connor: An Olympus Cameras
- Compact as XZ-10- Raw capable- Sharp F 1.8 zoom or sharper (F 0.95 !!!!) single focal length (24 or 35mm ) Zuiko optic- Has to have at least swivel screen or hot shue, while has built in flash ! (as in GM1 of GF7)- Underwater housing and stylish (yet affordable) leather/copper accessories. - Useful video (by built in IS or 4k or something else which is useful!)- Around 499-699 €£$
That would be an awesome replacement for my XZ-1, even I own a GM1! I would buy it.
There is nothing, was, and will never be something which ever beats a bright, real, optical Viewfinder! This is something which can't be measured on reviews, which can't be seen directly on testcharts but the photographers knows...
EVFs are like alcoholfree beer, feels like something real, but it taste like pee. ;)
Stollen1234: hmm i thought Sony has the best sensors on the market?? then why this new camera is getting only 80%??!!
haha funny Sony
No, I compared the technology, not the price. The A77 II is 2/3 of the price for the Canon 7DM2 (not 50%) but the Autofocus is not on par with the the 7DM2 with only 15 crosspoints and the body is not near the quality of the 7DM2. It has even no Dual Slots... so you compare the price of a pro and a consumercamera. Canon tried SLT technology 15 years ago, there were no advantages. People see the advantage of the sensor on DXOMark, but not that 50% of the light got lost before it even reached the sensor ;)
Battersea: I hope Canon starts shopping there.
@falconeyes. I second that. They should improve their fabs to compete with Sony or Toshiba... but sometimes people forget how small the Camerabody-segment is in the whole company. So, the pressure on the company is less intense, I think. For Nikon it's important to keep the pase to survive the game, they have nothing except of cameras... so they switched to different vendors. Canon is a little bit too selfimpressed, maybe they will get the payback soon (but not from Sony, but from Fuji in my opinion).
Anyway, I still enjoy using some of my older cameras. For example, I'm always impressed what an old 5D is able to do with 12MP@Fullframe.
Edit: The Sony A7S came back to this old magic formula ;)
@hippo84.Your pronounced SLT features like phase detect AF in video and LiveView, no mirror shake, 12fps, EVF and so on are *all* gone by now. What resists is the loss of light. For example, Canon has the DPAF for phase detect AF all the time, has 12 fps and even the mirrors are getting better all the time (less noice, no vibration). EVF is a disadvantage for me, but if I *would* need one I use anything attached to the HDMI or look at the screen.