I'm amazed how well the RX100II holds against the GM1 in (RAW) image quality. As far as pocketability goes, I think the limit really is the size of the RX100II - when a camera gets any bigger, it really isn't very pocketable, even though it may not be "big". Still, I do love how they have managed to shring the GM1 to a handbag size.
This phone is incredible. Everything works smartly and the S pen works very well (much better than for example on Note 10.1 tablet). The camera is not that important to me, as I much prefer even a quality compact with RAW shooting over a phone (not to mention an ILC or a DSLR). But the phone's camera comes in handy with the occational snap, taking notes, copying receipts/articles, etc and videos (120 fps recording is useful for me). The screen is of course a pleasure to use.
One of the best things about the phone might be audio quality. Finally even an audiophile can ditch a separate mp3-player and use a phone with hifi-headphones (and as long as they are relatively low impedance you won't need an external amp). Especially the Adapt Sound feature on the phone is pure genius! That feature should be on every music player. You can only make one set of adjustments (presets for different headphones would have been nice). But even like this, it's of course a cut above anything else.
ulfie: OMG ... $799 for a plain-vanilla 35mm f2.8 lens. That's not good. Period.
No, not good at all Prec.. err, Sony.
Holy sh*t, that theatre panorama _does_ change my view on phone cameras. Impressive. The daylight panos are also impressively sharp and well exposed.
GXRuser: Missing EVF is an issue. Same for the XA-1.
+1. The missing EVF is a bummer.
RStyga: Now, there is a good move! It has been painful to watch the RAW conversion saga of X Trans images. This could be a solid performer without dramas.
Yeah, Fuji stumbled badly with X-trans RAW in the beginning. But I think Fuji finally got the RAW conversion of Lightroom and Photoshop (ACR) working as it should and these days X-trans images are superb also in RAW, even through ACR. Fuji RAW should stand up well to the competion, especially at high ISOs. Correct?
zorro4: If they really insist on renting, Adobe should at least use a rent-to-buy scheme, rent at $9.99 per month, after a minimum of two years the customer can keep the last versions he has forever if he decides to close the subscription.
Zorro absolutely hit the nail there.
Well, I've been a Lightroom user since 1.0, hell since RawShooter. Why can't I get the discount package? Why is this even restricted only to people who have purchased Photoshop previously - I would never even consider with the higher price. Adobe might have given the handshake to us Lightroom users, too.
Roman Korcek: Does anyone know why Hologram AF and the NightShot / NightFraming capabilities had to go? At least Hologram AF has always seemed very useful to me.
That's a good question. I wish we had stuff like that today. Those features were still in the 717, which was one hell of a camera. In the 828, the Nightshot feature was somewhat crippled with (if I remember correctly) shutter speed restrictions. So, it the features were there until 828 and then gone. I really miss those Sony cameras with their tilting bodies and fantastic lenses.
I'm an NX user myself (along with Canon and Sony gear) and if this is any indication of the future of Samsung's pricing for the NX system... well, I'm afraid that the whole system will lose it's appeal. The NX gear so far - camera bodies like the NX20 and NX300 and just about all of the NX lenses are reasonably priced and very high quality.
Now /this/ product is just the opposite - an overpriced niche product. Like previously mentioned - had it been priced around $800-900, it would have made more sense and wouldn't have been DOA.
Jote: Canon is not even trying. Just put a 28-200mm on the G and I'm sold. 140 is not doing it for me.
You'll find that in the Nikon P7700 http://www.dpreview.com/products/nikon/compacts/nikon_cpp7700
Yes, these are unbelievably boring releases from Canon. Not even a tilt LCD for the G16. There's a company in decline, I have to say (as a Canon user myself)
tecnoworld: Finally nx support! After so long this great system is getting recognized.
HowaboutRAW:The on-screen notification about the exposure mode when using the PASM dial dissappears when you half press the shutter button and lingers longer if you don't.
Personally I chose Samsung NX20, because it's a really good, complete package. Good and large enough APS-C sensor (RAW quality is very good), good EVF and tilf/swivel LCD, good lenses (good and extremely small pancakes), very good kit zoom, cheap prices. What's not to like! :) I could have gone the Sony way, but felt that Samsung is just a better choise for me. I chose Samsung NX over Micro43 because I prefer the sensor size and aspect ratio of Samsung's APS-C.
Well, for photographers this is not the best choice, that's for sure. But, there's a but: I don't think it is even meant for photographers, as people on Dpreview well understand (placing the preview on Connect).
The point of this release - it is surely a good thing for Samsung as it generates talk and visibility for the brand. And non-photographers will view this product very differently from photography enthusiasts. This thing could actually be something that narrows the gap between photographers and regular people, making it easier for a regular Joe/Jane to select a system camera, when it's operating system and layout is familiar from your phone. I would never choose this over an NX20 (hoping to see that NX30 soon, Samsung!), but I can see how many who are not familiar to interchangeable lens cameras would. I don't see the Galaxy NX as a bad thing as long as Samsung keeps well committed to the the actual NX system for photographers and doesn't lose that vision.
qwertyasdf: I really hope the NX line success with it incredible lensesBut the unnecessary long flangeback distance is like a genetic disorder that will plague generations to come The inability to use m mount lenses and the stupid protruding lens mount killed the deal for me
Samsung has 25.5 fb vs Sony NEX at 18mm, but Samsung has smaller and better lenses. So I see no problem there for Samsung... Take a look at the NX20, it's pretty darn small with an EVF and a good tilt *and* swivel LCD. And it sits well in the hand. Body +lens size is great.
Wow. Samsung keeps introducing interesting lenses, definitely a pretty good lens selection for a mirrorless system. This is one sexy fisheye! Great that they have put so much effort to reducing the size. The NX system deserves more fame! I hope Samsung will up the game with a follower to the great NX20, but will fix the loose diopter adjustment in an otherwise great EVF. It would be a shame to see a promising system dwindle due to no interesting camera bodies.
Arn: I wonder if they will give Lightroom 5 the "Camera Shake Reduction" feature to remove camera shake motion blur, or they will keep it restricted to only Photoshop CC, to rip photographers off? This, if ANY feature is relevant for photographers and would be appropriate for Lightroom.
so at about 16:30 they said the feature is not coming to LR5. Damn it :/
sirkhann: Can someone please ask them why camera shake reduction and other new Photoshop Cloud stuff is not in implemented in Lightroom, where it actually belongs but we will have to pay for monthly access instead?
Exactly what I want to know, too. Leaving camera shade reduction out of Lightroom is a bit of a suck-on-this-act from Adobe.
I wonder if they will give Lightroom 5 the "Camera Shake Reduction" feature to remove camera shake motion blur, or they will keep it restricted to only Photoshop CC, to rip photographers off? This, if ANY feature is relevant for photographers and would be appropriate for Lightroom.