I'll hang onto my Panasonic LX-7 for now. It was under $250 ("used" warehouse Amazon (was BNIB), has a slightly smaller sensor (1/1.7") but a brighter lens (F/1.4 @ 24mm) and shoots 1080p @ 60FPS and 720p @ 120FPS.Why Canon chose to leave off at least 1080p60 on a $800 camera is mind-boggling.
abortabort: Well seems the sleeping giants of video (Panasonic and Sony) have woken up and they aren't happy that a little upstart (Canon) thinks they can play in their big boy pen, they are going to beat the little upstart within an inch of its little panties and for its belligerent ways going to take some of the upstarts favourite toys in the process (stills camera share).
Canon is the #1 player in DSLR video use. Look at all the stuff shot with the 5d Mark II and III (episodes of House, SNL, parts of movies like Act of Valor, Avengers, 127 hours, etc.). K E you can't really believe your own posts can you? Please let me know all the commercial well known work shot with a Sony DSLR or mirrorless. Answer = none. Why is that? I'm sorry you think framerate supersedes all other camera features, but it doesn't. 24p is cinema, and has been for 100 years. Sure 60p is good for slow motion, but did you notice even Sony didn't include 4k 60p on this camera? Here's some links for you:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_II#Independent_film_and_television(Almost all Canon): http://nofilmschool.com/2010/01/10-examples-of-stunning-dslr-cinematography/http://talesfromtheargo.com/6-famous-examples-of-the-dslr-canon-5d-mark-ii-in-hollywood/
Ready for your examples of Sony DSLR's in Hollywood next...:)
Sorry abortabort, Canon is not available for comment - they are too busy lighting cigars with $100 bills from leading the world in DSLR sales for years.
How do 5 people "own this" already?
goshigoo: Panasonic is really doing very well recently (except the 42.5 f/1.2, but we can just ignore it since we already have 45 f/1.8)
The recent releases of GM1 / GX7 / GH4 / 15 / 12-32 and the upcoming 35-100 are on the right path of m43; the true spirit of m43in terms of pricing and portability
I hope we will see a 8mm pancake prime or 9-18mm from panasonic soon
Right Yabookkie - it's either 85/2.4 for $1600 vs 85/3.6 for $300.
Shield3: Not bad for a FF equivalent of 30mm F/3.4.
HowaboutRaw- 15mm x 2 = 30mm. 2x crop factor for m43'rds.
Methinks Sony has finally killed the A mount altogether. Haven't seen anything in over a year with the A58.
Revenant - 30mm field of view, F/3.4 for total light gathering, noise level, depth of field, low light performance. I do think of terms in exposure as well and I'm a fan of m43rds (owned several GH2 and GF2's). This lens is what it is - another nice addition to micro 4/3rds. Be nice if it were a pancake like the amazing 20 1.7. Cheers.
"Equivalence is such a ridiculous idea" yet the first second anyone heard about this lens they thought "oh, it's like 30mm on FF". If you say you didn't you're lying. Again, not bad for a 30mm F/3.4 equivalent.
It's true it has F/1.7 "light intensity" but not GATHERING. How can a 1/4 size sensor "gather" as much light, all things being equal, as a sensor 4x larger?Thus, the 1.7 m43rds lens "gathers" as much as a full frame F/3.4. For exposure purposes, yep, it's 1.7. For field of view, depth of field and gathering light it's the equivalent of a full frame 3.4 30mm. Not sure why this is so tough. Get a small bucket and one 4x as large and sit them out in the rain. Which one "gathers' more water?
Rmel26: This has just made me consider getting the Panasonic 35-100 F2.8 lens for micro 4 3. Since I already have the micro 4 3 bodies, all I really need is a fast zoom in one body and my 20mm in another. I see the 35-100 now selling below 1000 in EBAY. I think this is a better approach for those with micro 4 3 system
@Mike99999 - have you tried the 24/2.8 IS from Canon on FF? It's very light, a stop brighter than F/4, has IS and really sharp wide open.
Not bad for a FF equivalent of 30mm F/3.4.
Henry McA: I just compared it with Raws of the Canon G1 X. The Canon files seem to be sharper at all iso settings and noise seems to be finer and less digital. And the Canon is less expensive...
2eyesee is correct. Think of two buckets catching rainwater - the larger bucket is going to gather more water.
Shield3: Had Sony put an APS-C sensor in this I'd have bought one.
EsVee - you do know Sony's last "bridge" camera like this had an APS sized sensor right? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscr1
Had Sony put an APS-C sensor in this I'd have bought one.
F7.6 equivalent on FF - pretty tough to really blow out the background unless one uses the "zoom in tight" trick. F/8 on my 5d3 and damn near everything is in focus.
If you compare this to the 82% rated 5d Mark III, you'll see (according to DPR) that this Nikon D610 "beats" the 5d3 in video mode, yet one cannot even adjust the aperture in live view on the 610.This 610 beats it in performance, even though the 5d3 has a 61 pt AF system and I can get 30 shot raw burst @ 6FPS with a 1000x CF card. No CF slot on the 610.
Can I use my Canon EF glass with this? Is the Metabones Speed Booster available for EF to M43?
Photomonkey: Hooray for Sony.A brilliantly sharp and well made lens for a small amount more than Canon's 2.8 IS offerings. Granted they are not a 50/55 but they are comparable prime configurations.
I hope this signals the beginning of a number of premium lenses from Sony. Considering that Fuji is currently setting the standard for optical excellence and fair pricing for their quality, I am sure that Sony have noticed the accolades for Fuji's line
The Canon 24/28 IS lenses are about half the price of this lens now. $549. Used, $470 range.
Nothing wrong with Jared selling this - any true fan of capitalism can't really be against a guy trying to earn a buck.What is sort of funny to me, however, is the fact most of us are all shooting digital now - it's not like it costs us anything to delete photos. In other words, teach yourself by doing and practicing. Shrug.