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The cost is too high. If it was in the $10-$30 range, maybe. The way it is it's approaching $1k per year!
Interesting up to that mft camera. You'd be better served by a film holder. Even then, why not build a field box and use properly sized film? No point at all going digital with a glass plane.
1:10 - Aahh.
A better concept would be to follow more closely a design vastly superior to today's camera designs: The eye.
Start with a spherical sensor and suddenly your lens can be surprisingly simple. You say it's too hard to build? A sensor is made by depositing chemicals on a back plane. The only thing that's hard about it is to ramp up production.
Not only it looks cheap, but ugly too.
Ando72: The design parameters, in order of priority, were probably (1) reliability, (2) reliability, (3) reliability, (4) survability of the space journey, (5) bandwidth, (6) resolution. If you only have once to get it right, and it absolutely must work first time, you start making different design decisions.
The Mars Rovers used 1980's tech processors, primarily because NASA had already done the "space-izing" to ensure they were reliable enough for space missions. It costs in the order of several $M to develop a new processor and prove it to be reliable enough for space missions. I would imagine cameras and imaging equipment to be on a similar scale.
@John 3 - wink.
Superka: I must say, I'm a little bit disappointed of sensor specs. Maybe one good 18Mpx sensor would be great for taking good pictures. But. Taking pictures is not the main goal of this mission. Curiosity is looking for signs of life, at least extinct. I hope he will find. When the man will go to the Mars, they will take Canon, for sure.
Sensor specs are not that much of an issue on a robotic arm. You can stagger pictures to create any resolution image.
I have thought about something similar. If you look at the human eye, it accomplishes an incredible feat with a single lens, and lots and lots of specialized receptors. I was wondering why no camera manufacturer has looked into the possibility of a curved sensor with a simple lens, since most of the work the lens has to do in our current technology is spherical to plane mapping without aberrations. This camera here is along the same lines even if it's not really applicable to artistic photography. What would make more sense is a miniaturization of this concept into a simple lens projecting on a curved sensor (or multiple sensors, or multi-layered sensors for detecting light and contrast).
munro harrap: Time was, I used Leicas, all the time. I had a 50mm f1.4 on an M3 and a 35mm f1.4 on an M2. They did not cost what now they do: the 35mm f1.4 was a fortune in those days-mid 70s. But it was still only £350 brand new. A 28mm f2.0 Nikkor cost less new. The bodies cost around £200 each in very good secondhand condition.
They did not cost £6200 odd. And they used reels of Tri-X or HP4 or HP5 or COLOUR.
These are the first and only monochrome Leicas. And they should be grey. The quality from the jpegs on show here has good detail-very- but they are flat and dead. They lack Chutspa, impact, and/or Pazzazz, man.
And as they are simpler machines than are M9s they should be cheaper, and not black, or silver, but grey.
I do not believe they will generate images that will one day have value. To do that an artifact has to be of it's time.
The world they picture isn't at all like the one we live in. May the designers dream in monochrome until they catch on.......
Right on.
Seems like focus was a challenge in the samples.
Milimike: Those D800 samples, to my eye, seems really great ( colors, resolution, DR ). I have a 5DMKIII on pre-order, shipping on April 2nd and I have no EF lenses. There is some review sites that are bashing at the new 5D, even in video mode ( eoshd.com ). The MKIII samples seems duller and a bit softer ( Is it the lens? ), and I am afraid of cancelling the pre-order and not getting either camera when I arrive in USA on May 1st. Do you guys think they will have both cameras in stock a month from now?
D800 would be hard to find, IMO.
wesleywest: I have loved my GF1 for 18 months, and was very interested in the GX1, but yesterday ordered a NEX 5N. Although I was loathe to have to deal with larger lenses and concerned about the long-term viability of the NEX platform, I have always wanted to make some shoestring cinema and the GX1 leaves a lot to be desired. No 60p or 24p. No manual control in movie mode.
So I will be lugging around a bigger lens that may be obsolete when Sony goes bankrupt or sensor size becomes a moot point, on a camera with worse AF performance, better IQ, better VQ, manual control in movie mode, extras like Sweep Panorama, faster continous shooting, and a cheaper body price to boot.
GH2 has all kinds of hacks, some are at 1080p. The problem is that file sizes dramatically increase. As usual, there is tradeoffs.
Can you believe it was shot at a speed of 0.4 sec?
Henry M. Hertz: http://chsvimg.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/img/sample01/img_05_l.jpg
sorry im not impressed. i don´t see what 36 MP offers me on this camera.
24 MP sensor would be the better choice... imo.
Enhance 224 to 176. Enhance, stop. Move in, stop. Pull out, track right, stop. Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop. Enhance 34 to 36. Pan right and pull back. Stop. Enhance 34 to 46. Pull back. Wait a minute, go right, stop. Enhance 57 to 19. Track 45 left. Stop. Enhance 15 to 23. Give me a hard copy right there.
So I took my time commenting here. I'll start by saying that I don't mind the look, or the size. What I really don't like is the colors and their combinations. I think all black would have been fine.
I also noticed that the sides, being completely flat, are useful. you might be able to set it on a level surface (like a table top) fairly easily. Or put a rock or fork under it
My only wish is they had left a port for a future external viewer. But again, I don't think this will be a show stopper for me, I'll just use an optical one on the hotshoe, I have a few for different focal lengths. For street photography you may not even need one.
What I like: the design, accepts my old lenses, shake reduction, no mirror (less stuff to break, less vibrations, which is huge), good grip, good sensor (remains to be seen of course).
What I don't like: the color combinations, no possibility of EVF.
In conclusion, to all you haters, keep hating, maybe you'll make the price to drop some for me.
newcameraguy2821: Here are new videos about the Nikon D4:
WHY - Nikon D4 Release Video
http://shrt.fm/xeULIF
Photography Talk - Updates and The New Nikon D4
http://shrt.fm/zXktdT
Nikon D4 who's it for?
http://shrt.fm/yIRYa2
Gizmo - Nikon D4 Unveiled + Sample Video
http://shrt.fm/wj9fjT
Nikon D4 Vs Canon 1Dx
http://shrt.fm/xNl4XF
Nikon D4 - Which? first look review
http://shrt.fm/AvqqYr
I don't understand why only a mono microphone? They couldn't squeeze in another one in that body?
Rmano: What I really find incredible (in that sense that is difficult to believe) is the poor bracketing options and the failure to save RAW along special functions (hdr, etc) which is a mere software matter. I would have expected an advanced bracketing options (EV, iso, mixed shutter time/aperture)... Sony, if you're listening, ask me.
That is a real pity. I was almost decided to go for it but powerful machines with crippled (and unmodifiable) software drive me crazy. Why not having an API and "Apps" for that cameras? They deserve it...
A Crowdsource camera? Sounds good,
jameshamm: I'm getting very good results with the Leica mount module. Do yourself a favour, borrow a good leica lens and try it on the GXR. Then see if you want to come here and complain about the concept.
@danaceb
I have both. No comparison. GXR is superior in sharpness, color rendition and IQ. NEX has more saturated colors and perhaps better video, but I'm not 100% sure of this as they both render video differently. GXR might be darker.
I am curious why you'd make this argument without having it done yourself. Reading about stuff is really not the same thing.
I'm getting very good results with the Leica mount module. Do yourself a favour, borrow a good leica lens and try it on the GXR. Then see if you want to come here and complain about the concept.
"..fall in its shares which have now lost almost two-thirds of their value over the past month.."
Not 4/3rd I'm afraid.