This does not look like a Sony. Maybe Audi R10?
dfswan: We will know just how exceptional the GH3 is when see come comparison shots to the larger sensor APS sensors. The pictures that Lumix is publishing on their global site (http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/dslm/gh3_special/gallery/index.html) are really quite exceptional. If the GH3 can produce pictures equivalent to the D7000 with its great color depth, and still maintain its smaller footprint with smaller lenses, and great features, how can you argue with that? The Lumix and Leica/Lumix lenses are already first class! Even if the sensor is manufactured by Sony, it certainly has great siblings. If the only weaknesses for the M4/3 cameras were the sensors, and that issue has been handled, we are certainly in for a treat.
Remember when APS sensors couldn’t compare to the Full Format Sensors. That gap has closed, and now the M43 gap appears to be closing as well. Let’s just hope the gap is closed and no more luging around oversized cameras and lenses!
You are completely missing the DOF issue. Perhaps not of importance to you but it is to most others.
rich889: the point of the comparison scene is to COMPARE between cameras across the board, OLD AND NEW. The most logical way to do that is to expand the current scene rather than delete it and start with a clean slate.
Ya, I agree, good idea.... whoever came up with that idea must be a genius!
I agree with others that there at least needs to be glass and metal objects in the scene. A small light source would also be interesting. The new scene looks really flat.
Why not simply expand the area of the existing scene around the perimeter and add a secondary camera position?
This sounds like a great idea in general but as people noted the primary point of the tool is to compare. So with an entire new scene it will not really be possible to do direct comparisons to last years cameras.
Expanding the existing scene and adding new light configurations and a secondary camera position would solve both problems during the transition time.
photowipe: It's simple. Everything about film involved guessing, even highly educated guesses like the Zone System provided. Anyone even considering applying the Zone System to digital should already know enough about the current tools that hardware and software provide (histograms, previews and highlight warnings) to know that guessing is no longer necessary. It's the same reason why you don't see very many photographers who fully understand digital using hand-held light meters any more- they only helped us guess what the exposure should be, but usually needed to be interpreted. Film is about guessing, digital is about knowing. The Zone System is a film technique.
Wow, you obviously have not read the whole book or you just don't understand it so why are you commenting? I see far more digital photogs guessing today than I ever did with film. Guessing used to cost money and was risky with film which is why people learned. Most people I talk to now with a digital camera don't know what aperture means.
This is a classified as a "Large Sensor Compact"?????!!?!? The sensor is 1/6 the size of the G1X and 1/4 the size of the RX100 - also "Large Sensor Compact" cameras. So then what isn't classified as a "Large Sensor"????
Rio Yandri: why lots of people complaining about the tilt screen? most of more expensive and more advance DSLR dont have tilt screen and no one complain about it. and they produce great images! and if you said that they are P&S camera that should have because of their mobility, then treat them like a point and shoot cam.. don't complain about their small sensors. because they are just a simple camera for walk around when you are not bringing your cool big DSLRs! deal with it boys... there are no perfect camera like you want it to. these company must have some reason for their product.. they are not dumb..
but if you feel that you are smart enough compare to them, why don't you have your own camera company? :D
i am not a canon fan boy, i used canon, fuji and iphone :) and i love pentax and dreaming of leica and hasselblad....and i will change my g11 with this g15 :)
Your comparison of this type of camera and DSLR is very flawed. The Canon 60D has articulated screen but you lose AF speed when you use it. Why is that? If you figure out what the difference between a mirrored and mirrorless camera is then you might figure out that there are lots of people who want high image quality and don't need a big flapping mirror. I have found that the M4/3 segement is becoming more appealing since it is approaching the image quality of pro DSLRs with a fraction of the cost in glass and a fraction of the size and weight.I am more likely to carry a belt pack with me than a large back pack. And if I can get great images then that is what I want. Mirrorless Interchangable systems with articulatd screens are very versatile for people who shoot from awkward positions. I know a few pro photogs who say that they simply are not able to take the shots they want BECAUSE they don't have an articulated screen. So why would you limit yourself as a camera maker?
LIGHT SABRE ELTERIBLE: I am a big Nikon fan but have always preferred the Canon G series to the Nikon P series. Nikons new P7700 is the first P series that I would have bought instead of the Canon regardless of the slightly slower lens but Nikon Decided to exclude a viewfinder and have a fully articulated swivel screen instead. That unfortunately is a dealbreaker for me.I can live without the swivel screenbut the a viewfinder in my opinion is an absolute essential when shooting in certain conditions. Canon have lost the swivel screen but retain the viewfinder so for Loyal Nikon fan I will unfortunately have to buy the Canon instead.
Hope you can actually see something through the tiny peep-hole viewfinder. Good luck.
I use the articulated screen for about 95% of my shooting. Why would Canon remove this? They are really out of touch with consumers and as much as I want to buy Canon... they just aren't making anything good in this range any more. No wonder their prices are dropping.
Vitruvius: I got the first edition from a used book store. Excelent tool and most of it still applies to digital. Not sure why this system needs a digital translation except to make more money from sales. Even the new cover is an obvious sales push.
Lots of old school rules in the book that most people have not heard about. Like how to get a propor exposure range for people shots outside by metering the back of your hand in direct sun and then in shade. The auto settings on your camera will take everything into account. But only you know that the skin tones need to be in the middle of he exposure range. Or you can just AE bracket like a clueless idiot and cross your fingers and resist learing anything useful and still get something and spend more time later on the computer and not be any wiser.
Just realized that the latest edition now covers digital histograms. That might be nice info addition.
I got the first edition from a used book store. Excelent tool and most of it still applies to digital. Not sure why this system needs a digital translation except to make more money from sales. Even the new cover is an obvious sales push.
DPREVIEW - Can you please order this and shoot your test scene so that we can all have a good laugh as you throw away $150. Meanwhile I will post my dogs old neck cone on ebay as a Numbnuts for $99.
Good job... of avoiding rectilinear urban scenes! The only image with some straight lines (3849) shows significant pincushion on the top siding board. I am thinking that downtown would look like a 'fish bowl'.
I am NOT a legal beagle, and I hate getting harrased in public while taking a picture of a building, BUT ...
I see legal implications written all over this (besides trying to get through customs at the airport).
Google street view had to automate software to go through ALL their images and blurr out faces and license pllates. It is actually funny because even the faces on billboards are blurred out.
What happens when people start posting video blogs or live visual diaries and somebodies wife sees their husband with their X?
You ARE responsible for what you post online and it is almost irretrievable. The number of people trying to erase their digital past is growing.
For a history of this idea see Steve Mann / cyberman;
And don't be surprised to be assaulted...
Scubadu: The E-mount 23mm looks super nice. I'm also very curious about the 35mm 1.4 on E-mount.
SLR Magic, if you are listening- please change the name of your compnay, or at least the lineup. It's very confusing. I also hope that you can set up distributors in the US or Europe. As an individual user I don't want to deal with customs or put a big purchase on PayPal.
Don't worry. They won't last two more years. There is no way that the other big firms will allow this unbridled innovation to continue. Someone will buy them out, whatever the price, change the name and then cut quality. It's inevitable.
This look awsome! The main reason I am hesitating investing in M4/3 camera system is because here are so few bright AND wide lenses. Thank you SLR Magic for this development.
Where are the prices and availability listed? I can't find the 'press release' and the SLR Magic web site is very incomplete.
Any chance that there is a bright 8.5mm lens in the works for m4/3 by anybody?
These non-electronic 'dumb' lenses make total sense with the new cameras with focus peaking. It is very intuitive and you can see the focal plane in the live view as a virtual live section through the scene. That makes these type of bright MFT lenses combined with the cameras that lack an OVF very logical and affordable workflow to get high quality work on a non-pro budget. And just to have FUN again!
Spectacle99: Prices I'm seeing for this look like they're going to be in the seriously expensive range. $1299 for the body alone, according to Amazon. Other stories indicating that the standard bundle will be with the very nice 35-100mm lens, and that the package will be around $2000. Wow.
Edit: Although, now I look at it, if the body goes for $1299, I'd be surprised if the bundle is as low as $2000, since the two weathersealed, high quality Lumix lenses are about $1400-$1500 each. So maybe more like $2200? This is, of course, just a guess.
The GH3 with the 12-35mm f2.8 as a kit for $2,000 would sell like hot cakes. I know I would run to the bank for that combo.
mosc: I'm still system free and looking for a video-focused, tele focused, ILC camera but I'm not sure this sits well with me. If anything, it's making me look for a GH2. I'm not going to be doing a whole lot of post work on anything I pick and that seems to be the main additional feature (bitrate stuff) compared to the GH2.
I like the A65 a lot, the viewfinder is amazing. I also like the E-M5. The IBIS in both really appeal to me compared to the panasonics. Then again, the panny 45-200mm F4-5.6 OIS looks like a winner so I wouldn't need it. APS-C gets me the Sigma 50-500mm F4.5-6.3 DG OS HSM though, and 750mm equiv seems awesome.
Also, the ETC feature is awesome. Unique to the GH2/GH3 right?
Advice? Main use case: boredom at little league games from the stands.
I was also looking to go for the Sony a77 with the 16-55 f2.8 but then I found some reviews online and I don't think I will be going there. Do you know the Sony has an additional crop factor for video?!? and the AF tracking durring video on the a77 is pretty sad. Glad they are innovating though and hope they work it out.
What would I need to use the Olympus ED 12-60mm f.2.8-4 lens with this camera and retain all functionality and weather protection of the camera and lens?
Is it the Olympus MMF-3 adpater?