pussycat2013: Panasonic "Oh, wow...how do we sell GH4 now?"
Panasonic kind of killed GH4 with G7. Except it didn't. Those cameras share similar specs, but GH4 is designed for pro's or semi-pro's. Sony makes great cameras on paper, but I can't believe the handling of a6300 comes even close to G7, not to mention GH4.
Mister Roboto: Too expensive!
$500-700 for a m43 body should be the right price.
There are plenty of µ4/3 bodies offered for less than $700. That being said, I wish I will not ever have to own that camera. Retro is so retro already. Freaking wannabe-hipsters!
If I use my film SLR, it's only because I don't have a FF DSLR. 72 pics / year = 20€ (film + development, B/W).
zakaria: fuji,pentax,olympus a real photography makers!!pen loooks a piece of art!! even it is 4/3
@XentiusNo worries. :) In general, people try to say something good about every brand, which is good. But it easily becomes a dogma: Panasonic is only good for video, Olympus is only good because of IBIS, Canon DSLR's are only good because of value for money, Nikon DSLR's are only good because they are better than Canon (but slightly more expensive), Pentax are only good because they are small (with lenses), Nikon 1 is only good because it has good PDAF, Leica is only good because of the build quality, Samsung is only good because of the price for the money, Ricoh is only good for the modularity, Sony is only good because it has the cutting edge-tech, Sigma is only good because it's different... Yeah, those examples are perhaps not the best, but I guess you get the point.
role_of_72: I still have a hard time to understand why there is no direct AF/MF and VR on/off switch on these lenses... they must be operated by hand anyway (have to open the lens, no power zoom so no one handed camera use...).
At least DSLRs should have an edge in ergonomics over mirrorless cameras as they have a larger real estate to start with but this is the worst of both worlds.
Precisely @io_bg. And I am sure that with the great ergonomics of DSLR's, it's possible to customize dedicate buttons for focus and image stabilization modes.
I would choose Panasonic for stills. They should make a model without video and free upgrade for (4k) video capability. Maybe then people would understand how great cameras they make for still photography.
In terms of ergonomics, check Panasonic G1, G10, G2, G5, G6, G7, GH1, GH2, GH3, GH4. Also check what Samsung has to offer. But yeah, this is kind of off-topic.
I wish I've got the job for posting these at DPR, but could not apply, because I don't live in US.
C'mon, news are important, don't get them wrong!
I wished they all had been carrying a D500.
Dave Waldrup: My switch from Canon (40+ years) to Nikon and the D810 with the Nikkor 24-120 f4 has been a game changer for my photography. Great dynamic range, amazing resolution and a fine lens combine to give images like this:http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/4159828533/photos/3345753/monterey-cypress-grove-shrp
Do not insult! That 2.8Mpix image looks sharp!
ThePhilips: 8K is 33MP in 16:9 AR. I gather full 43 sensor would have to be pushing the 40MP mark. Rather ambitious. I just hope it doesn't lead to too many sacrifices in other areas.
No clue for useful sensor sizes, but for example Panasonic HC-X1000E uses 1/2.3" -type sensor. Bigger sensors seem to lag behind in video resolution.
AFAIK, Panasonic makes plenty of non-µ4/3 video cameras. They can freely select the size of the sensor for their dedicated video cameras. Of course I'd love to see 8K in µ4/3, too.
fenceSitter: DPReview about the Pentax 645Z: "the larger sensor area does mean more light is gathered than comparable full-frame 35mm DSLRs."
I'm afraid this is patently false. Pentax's fastest medium format lenses are so much slower than those available for full-frame DSLRs that it completely obliterates any light-gathering advantage that the larger sensor might otherwise have.
To wit, a full-frame DSLR sensor behind a lens @ f1.4 gathers more than twice as much light as the 645Z sensor behind a lens @ f2.8, and f2.8 is the fastest there is in Pentax's current 645 portfolio.
@ilza, What are the metrics of entry pupil? How it is defined?
@Jonathan Lee. The reason behind the shallower DOF for APS-C is that you need to magnify the image more to get the same print size. Personally I have never understood the physics behind this, and IMHO the "equivalence" used e.g. here in DPreview is against this. There is a Wikipedia article about this and the equations are there, but it does not explain the phenomena.
Edit.: I suspect that those DOF-calculators and the Wikipedia are wrong. There are 1000 threads about equivalence on DPR, I have read maybe 15, but I'm still pretty clueless.
@forpetessake, @ilza, I was replying to @RichRMA and I meant situations where everything else is equal, especially sensor size and brightness of the image. In that case, T-number (~F-number) determines the shutter speed (or brightness, if sensor size and shutter speeds are equal). I was trying to say exactly the same as ilza did. I'm glad that this was clarified.
The wider the lens, the more light it collects, given that the absolute aperture is the same size. It is the F- (or T-) number that determines the shutter speed, not the absolute aperture size, all else being equal.
dr.noise: Looks cool, but should be named "focus bracketing" which is already an applicable technique with almost any camera.
Respectively, 4k photo mode could be called "burst mode" or "video". However, the philosophy is different: The frames are handled in one file, and the shutter speed is typically adjusted for still-shooting, and you have in-camera processing.
It's perhaps 1 minute process to take the image, select the focus point (or frame in 4k photo mode), and use WiFi to send it to the editor or share it on web.
Androole: It's a real shame that they didn't incorporate a focus-stacking algorithm into the functionality.
It would have changed this from a occasionally useful feature for certain cases to one that would be indispensible and excellent for macro photographers.
Same initial thought. I guess you have to do that in post-processing.
Georgeee: GH4 has excellent battery life. GH4 has the best grip of any camera
@Mike FL, c'mon, what in earth are you claiming? I have ONLY commented that people are not talking about the context. The context is not sensor performance or IBIS, because DSLR's have no IBIS (except maybe Pentax?) and DLSR and mirrorless basically share the same sensors(APS-C/FF). In this thread my only point has been that don't change the subject!
Please read the news item you are replying to, and think how your posts are relevant to that.
@snapa, I forgive you. But next time, read what people actually write, OK (in this case it would have been Ming Thein and me)?
@snapa Could you please clarify what my opinion was?