To put it simple, it is by far the smallest camera that can be taken seriously by photographers. As a bonus, you don't need a separate smartphone.
The physical ring for adjusting aperture / shutter speed / exposure compensation is very welcome for those who have used to traditional cameras.
If you don't care a **** about the production costs, this system may be fine. In controverse, this system might be useful if you want to save money and don't give a **** about light setup, because you can shoo at ISO*****. But that's very controversial. So, what's the point?
Lee Jay: "Any two lenses 25mm diameter apertures will give the same depth-of-field of shot at the same shooting distance."
This sentence is still incorrect, Richard.
Also referring to GH1 or GH2 instead of EM5 solves the problem, as they have multi-aspect-ratio sensors. Another option is to talk about image circle.
This application demonstrates the problem that on many keyboards (including danish) there is STILL no shortcut for some basic functions, such as rotating images.
StevenE: How is it in low light? Compared to 5DIIIAlso... is it just as good in 1080p as 4K... no moire etc?
Short comparison about low light performance vs. 5D mkIII can be seen from this video: http://vimeo.com/93500786 from 2:55 onwards. There is also some 1080p footage from GH4 in this review.
joe6pack: And the cost of the film and to develop the film are?
Even at a price of 0.5$/€/£ shot, film is the cheapest way to go when shooting only a couple of hundred shots a year on FF or medium format.
I think Nikon sees only small market in mirrorless segment, and they invest only small money on that. The potential they see is what they have introduced in their cameras. The same goes with Canon. At the moment, many DSLR users seems to think the same way: mirrorless cameras are not real cameras.
webrunner5: I was thinking about buying this but with the announced price not so sure now. That is a LOT of money with the 14-140 which you would need for video. And WAY too much for a person to buy if they are not going to use the video much.
Like has been stated below, the Sony A7 or D610 would be a better bet for the same money for pictures.
I am sure for people just into video it is probably a good deal. And worth upgrading to. But I am not going to make any money with it so hard to justify. FF cameras have gotten really cheap as of late. Some of the high end Semi Pro DSLRC cameras look overpriced to me lately.
I think my Visa card will stay in my wallet for this one.
Yep, this camera is not only about video, and the video of this camera is not only about 4k... In fact, most customer camera manufacturers have still a long way to go to catch the video quality and the manual controls of the long ago discontinued GH1 (hacked or not).
1. Is this really an original idea?and/or2. Are these photographs great?
Peter Del: I am looking forward to seeing pictures taken with the 9mm, to see how much distortion there is. The angle of view is 140 degrees as opposed to the 7.5mm Samyang, which is 180 degrees! My 9-18 is 100 at the wide end.Peter Del
Naveed, yes it is possible to correct the distortion:http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3373069http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3150131
ekaton: And the recipe is: pets, small children and lots of photoshop - and many will like all these real life shots. Not my cup of tea. Too obvious an exercise to push the "uuuhhhh oooohhhh how sweet grandmother buttons". By the way the world we are living in these days, at least in some parts of it, would probably react very differently if the very same pics were taken by a man.
What critique? I saw instructions how almost anyone could take similar shots if they wanted. That is not critique, that is demoting the value of the work. This kind of comment is only valuable, if it comes from a person who actually has done the same, and thus have some photos to show. Otherwise, to me, that person does not understand what photography is all about.
superstar905: Conclusion - Cons■Poor noise reduction■JPEG rendering of yellows a bit washed out■Electronic shutter can produce banding under artificial light■Video resolution tops out at 1080 30p■Default dynamic range settings produce slight highlight clipping■Slow 1/50 flash sync speed
Don't know about you, but the cons I highlighted above should have carried enough weight to knock the award to silver. I removed the battery con but thats another one, you need 2 - 3 batteries to run this thing for an event at best.
Most of the cons are related to JPEG shooting. OK, there is banding in electronic shutter, but how many cameras actually HAVE electronic shutter? AFAIK, video quality has not been criticized, but rather the video specifications (there is no 1080 60p). Actually, that specification does not mean much. You don't make conclusions based on pixel count alone, do you? Panasonic video is known to be one of the best, if not the best on interchangeable lens cameras. The flash sync speed seems to be the only real con, but hey, there is a flash on that tiny camera!
This is Canon saying to their loyal customers that "you cannot live without PDAF" and that "mirrorless system cameras are toys".
This is partly true: If you MUST have a Canon and you want to be even a little serious, then you need to use PDAF because Canon CDAF is absolutely TERRIBLE, and you need to get a DSLR, because Canon mirrorless system cameras ARE toys.
What's wrong with me? I kinda want one!
ericsan: Big disappointment as i was ready to move from DSLR to MFT...A new body with an older sensor...same as Canon recycling years after years it's 18 MPIX sensor on various bodies...What's wrong with these brands and their policies of "minimum innovation"will wait for the new Olympus bodies coming shortly and decide to make the move or not !!
By innovation do you mean the sensor technology? In terms of innovation, I find far more important concept the following: mirrorless system camera, short flange back distance, electronic shutter, EVF, fully articulating screen, touch screen (touch focus), WiFi, power zoom lenses, excellent manually controlled video, face recognition, PDAF that works in video, focus tracking across any part of the image, small lenses, software correction of aberrations, multi-aspect ratio sensor, stepless aperture control on a system camera lens... Of course Panasonic was not the first to introduce all of this, but you can't claim them not for being innovative. The innovations from other manufacturers includes IBIS, translucent mirror, PDAF on sensor, customizable adjustment ring in lens and focus peaking... Please, feel free to upgrade the lists.
ivan1973: I thought there is a build in vibration-based dust removal?
Sure there is: http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d600/features01.htm (see the second paragraph: Nikon's Integrated Dust Reduction System with Image Sensor Cleaning function).
The problem is that dust removal is not perfect even for dust, and does not help for oil or other liquid/sticky materials.
Lyndsay Williams: I designed the original version of this, Sensecam for Microsoft, in 1999. for people with memory problems and dementia. I wonder why this version is is so expensive? We always had the problem that the temperature sensor measures close to the temperature of the user (as on chest) not the ambient temperature. I wonder how this has been solved.
Measuring temperature of the temperature sensor at +/- 2 Celcius (4 Fahrenheit) accuracy is relatively easy. A calibrated sensor that is guaranteed to measure it's own temperature at +/- 1 C-deg (2 F-deg) costs quite a bit. Measuring air temperature at 1 C-deg (2 F-deg) accuracy additionally requires a shielded and ventilated system around the sensor.
It may be that the temperature measurement is quite accurate, but properly interpreting it may be quite challenging.
jhinkey: Ugh - no true 16:9 ratio with a multi-aspect ratio sensor. As someone who shoots a lot of landscapes and is looking for something more compact than my FX DSLR this camera just became much less desirable.
Perhaps, since they say this is "video optimized" they will release some other m43 camera that keeps the multi-aspect sensor capability?
A GH2 may be the way to go or the OM-D just became much more attractive.
Multi-aspect (or normal 16:9) sensor is important especially for video. Cropping from 4:3 to 16:9 makes no sense at all!
technic: interesting to have so much choices for a quality compact. Seems to me that Sony stretched the limits of optics a bit too much with their RX100 (frequent decentering issues, soft corners, low closeup image quality). The XF1 retro design isn't my taste, but 25mm WA is a nice extra compared to the 28mm of RX100 (and XZ-1/XZ-2). Will be interesting to see how the lens performs, compared to RX100, XZ1 (with its great lens but smaller sensor) and S100 (even smaller but also a bit compromised lens).
If the lens performs well wide open, I'm almost forgiving that it is so freaking slow. F4.2 at 50mm-equiv. Seriously?