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Take it as primary school awards - everyone (in turns) is bound to get one at some stage.... BUT - if DPR fails to give any, I would seriously think if it would be worth having that one...these guys are just too nice (sweet)

Thanks Lars - I saw the samples and checked quite a few in original size. I agree results from 18-55 kit aren't impressive across the board and are very (very) soft. But the only portrait with 17-55/2.8 was shot at ISO 12800, hardly comparable to others detail-wise....

Detailed review as always - BUT, right at the start there is unnecessary comparison to G3, which does not really classify as "its peers" as it even remotely is not. Without stopping at that point, the reviewer than adds that Nex offers APS-C sensor in not much larger body (and it again should not be classified as "peer"apart from pixel count. Perhaps it needs to clarified here - D3200 is not a mirrorless camera.
There is no need to mention double IR ports so many times and all info about battery could be accompanied with only one image. Bracketing (the lack of) should be mentioned, as it appears D3200 continues tradition of Nikon's hot Matrix Metering. Finally, it really would not hurt to post at least one sample why the supplied kit lens is deemed as "unsuitable" for the camera it comes with.
Thanks for the review!

I like what Canon did - people were screaming "give us mirrorless". So Canon made one, for what mirrorless is: no VF of any kind, no knobs or buttons, no built in flash - basic sensor+LCD which disappears when attached on the big lens. They can't defy the physics and make big sensor with a small glass at the front- yet they demonstrated it can be "small-ish" with prime pancake. But Canon did make a statement which may dent the whole market: Canon is a camera name and this is a decent mirrorless system."How BAD are the others, should I bother with the whole moirrorless concept at all or should I just go safe route and buy DSLR, at least knowing what I'm buying? So, it REALLY can't be small after all?" these will be the questions average consumer would ask themselves making a purchase decision. We already know this, don't we?If one wants fully featured big sensor camera with fast focus and all things big and small, mirrorless is NOT the final answer and will not kill DSLR as we know it.

To reel you in to pre-order, without knowing how good it really is - manufacturers using reviewers, but not allowing them to publish any tests as "pre-production" units. Simple, just see how people are drooling over it - without doubts it will be the best 75 f1.8 lens for 4/3rd's....

if the 4/3rd is a full frame, does that mean D800 is "double full frame"? Inconvenient, huh? Lets keep it simple as it used to be.

Thanks Richard, appreciate you effort and it's certainly not DPR fault - manufacturers are often rushing products and these "first impressions" are just about handling, not the performance. With lenses, not much in there - optics is what counts. As if it would make any difference manufacturers waiting another few weeks and handing over "early production" unit, which would be fair. You guys dance as they play and I wish you were allowed to post "pre-production" samples as well (no full tests, just some meaningful shots comparable later with production units). The folk would understand they are not production ....and I just can't imagine you juggling this lens from hand to hand and not shooting "something". DPR should be able to make these early comments (good or bad), not just give a politically correct speech - it does not represent the final product. This way, reviewers just got manipulated into pre-order game - and that is IMO the dishonest part played by manufacturers. Thx

Without doubts this should be a fine lens.
But the trend of manufacturers providing "pre-production" units to reviewers is plainly annoying. Reviewers cautiously report abut products, the "production and proper" testing does not happen for a long time - and if any "problem" or weakness is attributed to "pre-production" unit, unlikely to be fully addressed in fully production ones. It's quite likely the early buyers will get the very same units and all the polishing will happen later (that's what the warranty is for). This is the 99% finished product (Made in Japan, they rarely turn back and start from the scratch) and if I read properly the second last sentence (written in a very politically correct voice) , it leaves me wondering if the lack of the lens hood was really the biggest concern...
Or the DPR has run out of brick walls?

Then we in Australia are a bit slow to catch up that trend, I guess. People are crazy and buy heaps of iPhones, iiPads and other electronic gadgets but I rarely see anyone (including loads of tourists, including those from Japan) wearing anything but black bodies with familiar writing. Once in a blue moon you can see people with NEX, mainly Uni students taking social snaps in nearby restaurants/coffee shops. I'm in the Sydney CBD daily and can only say my observation - not a single PEN out there. For a kit at AUD$450-550, depending on model, it surely is good value for money, yet people getting "serious" about photography (read parents who want decent pictures of their kids in various activities and had tried numerous P&S/phones) rather opt for traditional DSLR kit. Yet, Pentax Kr with kit lens cost the same $450 - people buy Canon or Nikon. Confusing, eh?

I think Canon is cautiously checking the market pulse. Without doubts they could add new mount and replace OVF with EVF version and be done with their first mirrorless. New mount and new lenses - easier to be said than done. It just cost a lots of money. For a traditional company like Canon that would still mean rather same number of buyers - but the profit? IMO mirrorless talk is just that - the price of Olympus m4/3 Pen has dropped down significantly and it appears even with such reduced price, the stock is slow moving. Or at least did not take the market as "predicted" by the fans of mirrorless cameras, drastically reducing the sales of classic DSLR. Even Nikon cautiously went with their One series which does not directly bite in DSLR territory. The bottom line is something everyone noticed - the AF speed is still lagging - be it with bolted on or interchangeable lens (which would in kit version still be a slow one on the long end, just much bigger). As a try - nice one.

Well, apart from sharing the same sensor and recorded 0.5 EV loss on the mirror, Sony is well known for its strong default NR - as an proof for this look no further than in feathers (check the edge of the yellow one) and see it by yourself. I may just say yet another Sony model, not too far away from another Sony model with negligible differences. I still don't get that, pumping model numbers just to have all numbers covered or "new" model released every fortnight....

The sample photo (portrait posted elsewhere) has a CAT in it! Could not resist to notice it here as so many whined about people buying expensive cameras and posting photos of cats. It's official: D800 is a perfect camera for people who own a cat.
With the latest 2 pro bodies (D4 and D800) Nikon has covered the lot both speed and resolution, bravo Nikon.

Not as simple: what camera do you have at this moment? WHat is your main interest in taking photos (landscape/portrait/indoors/outdoors/social/travel etc). This sort of cameras are ultimate travel/holiday camera, not really required to fit in the pocket but to hang around the neck with the lens covering capturing the whole Saint Peter Square and then zooming onto the Pope....(just kidding, but you get the drift). As other poster suggested, 18-270 would suite better as 24-135 (37-200 eq) isn't wide enough, nor long enough but that is not the point. Nobody should be a ble to answer that question from practical (usage) point of view - real user forums may be better (including FUji/Panasonic/Sony forums, not DSLR ones as one would be frown upon even mentioning chip smaller than APSC) and examples people post there should give enough clues how worthy is a particular product. But if set to one-lens option, superzooms, though heavy, expensive and big are still worth checking out.

I think this product fills the gap on the market - it has fairly decent chip by size (and performance). Not everybody needs DSLR, I dare to say most basic users are stuck with 2-lens kit, but rarely put the longer (usually 50-200) lens and take 90% of shots with 18-55. Even them, they complain both about "not sharp", talking about shallow DOF or "wish I had the "universal lens"", talking about something like 18-200. We all know that none of 18-2xx is really a winner. And for those people I really can say: they would be better off with something like this. Offers the range (24-overkill), will probably have so-so high ISO, good DOF even wide open and can grow if needed (ext flash, filters, play with settings). It handles like DSLR, looks like one and on a good light performs close to one. And is as heavy as one, too.
BTW, Fuji NEVER managed to put decent sample photos on their web site - ever! They are almost famous for it - it must be some Japanese thing we don't get.

Perhaps the initial enthusiasm about the whole concept just went flat - I see lot of these models sold here in Oz through overstock stores. Olympus Pen series is greatly discounted through retail. Nikon just introduced 1 cameras on the market and, oh my... they are just over optimistic (Dick Smith catalogue had it yesterday advertised "DSLR quality im much smaller package" with pricing set at AUD$1099 and AUD$1349 respectivelly). Eventually, NEX7 may grab some market, but most people are very traditional how they see digital cameras - either small ones that do fit in their pockets and those which don't. Oversupply of these new MILC cameras have just confused average buyers and I guess they still go "safe" way. Not everyone is into gear like people who visit this site. If they want "big" camera, real DSLR or superzoom appears to be "safe" way. In such circumstances, perhaps Canon will not rush in..IMO

Thanks, I knew I'd seen this somewhere before - it's called "UNDO" on my computer.....

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=39616976

enough said

Impressive result - I can only wish my old D80 retains as much details even at 1600. And the blue neon lighting did not help either - so even WB is pretty good under suck conditions. Though I am not fan of this or m4/3 format and overall design, the sensor technology is something to look forward.

Fuji S602, I bought in 2002, had "hybrid AF" with external sensor helping live AF. It took Riicoh 8+ years to independently develop the same thing (and speed it up a bit). On these new cameras it looks the most advanced improvement is LCD. Are we supposed to be impressed?

Almost any current DSLR manufacturer could introduce this system, albeit only with limited choice of fast focusing lenses and some smart programming, so the camera does not have to use focusing system while taking the burst of shots.
For this type of photography (static fashion) it would be relativelly easy to take quick burst ofintelligently focused shots, if the camera has the ability to recognise extreme focus points (some later cameras using intelligent system already do this for their "DOF priority"), leaving final file "unflattened". The same as with focus stacking technique some photographers already use, just in camera.
IMO, nothing that radical and new - at at such smallish resolution, not a surprise (boils down to Casio's 1000 frames/sec with incremental focus shift - even if this slows down to 100 frames to allow marginal focus shift, there would be 100 shots covering from .5m to infinity in 1 second. With that, you can really refocus later).
Lukewarm water.