Eddy M: The locals eat this poor monkeys., they call them 'daging yaki' (yaki meat). They're even widely sold at the market.
If you eat the copyright holder than the copyright belongs to you. Maybe.
GaryJP: The ape may have pressed the shutter. But there is more to taking a photograph than pressing the shutter. I doubt that the ape set the aperture, focal length or time, chose the lens, or took the camera to the location, or cropped the image. I am surprised more photographers don't seem to know this.
The photographer travelled to a place with monkeys, followed those monkeys for days, saw saind monkeys knoking out his expensive equipments, let them play with such equipment, avoid scaring or interfering with those monkeys while the where taking hundreds of pictures, checked all those pictures until found this particular one, processed it, and yet there is no "creative act"?
Kim Letkeman: IP law is complex and no doubt Wikimedia has checked this out thoroughly and has the photographer by the (monkey's) stones ... but they're still scum bags for putting it in the public domain "on behalf of a monkey" for their own benefit.
Just had another thought. Since the photographer handed the camera to the monkey (prove that he did not), does that not mean that the monkey was shooting selfies while acting as his assistant? Technicalities might just cut both ways ...
Wikimedia just reject any request for content takedown (304 so far) as you can see in its "transparancy report"
JapanCanon: Does this mean i dont have copyright in images I took on self timer?
From a legal standpoint, it doesnt matter what people think is right, or how they think the law should apply based on a few snippets that they understand, or a feeling for what is right and wrong. The only way to consider this situation from a legal standpoint is to sit down, read the words of the law, consider the facts and how those words apply to those facts. Probably Wikipedia did this and believe they have a strong legal argument.
No intentions? The photographer went to Indonesia, followed the monkeys for day, set up a camera, saw the monkey playing with his expensive equipment and choose to not interfere with what was happening... this looks quite intentional to me! Claiming he didn't own the copyright on the photo because there is imprevedible behaviours involved, is like saying that Pollock doesn't own copyright to his painting because he cannot predict where the paint he sent flying will land on the canvas!
Jeff Seltzer: More predictable than the sun rising, the collection of people here calling someone else's work nonsense and worthless. Probably the same people who walk into a modern art museum claiming, "I can do this...what's the big deal?" Well, here's the thing: you did NOT do it. Someone else did, and this is the case here, too. Maybe one day your pictures of puppies, cute kids, sunsets, and flower macros will be in an art gallery, but until then, try to be more respectful and understanding. Maybe you'll actually learn something.
For encouraging such a discussion, any author should be proud of his work.
Donnie G: Now that I've finally used a friend's SLT A77 II for a couple of hours, I've come to the conclusion that while Sony's fixed mirror design appeals to the camera tech geek in me, the camera just doesn't improve upon, nor would it add value to my current kit. IMO, the camera is as good as, but not better than, any of the other APS-C DSLRs out there. So for someone like me, who is already invested in a quality DSLR system, there's no good reason to buy into the Sony system. However, if, like my camera club friend, you are buying and building your first serious system, then Sony's SLT A77 II deserves a serious look.
Wouldn't this be still true if you exchange "Sony SLT A77" with any other major brand APS DSLR?
Lukino: This would be really cool for a wedding photographer! Moving lights around without having to shout to a bored faced assistant must be a dream of some guys I know.
Yeah I forgot the noise! 2x cool! Also notice I'm not pretending to be a pro photographer, you can tell it because there is no trace of the word "photo" in my name.
This would be really cool for a wedding photographer! Moving lights around without having to shout to a bored faced assistant must be a dream of some guys I know.
forpetessake: After the detailed article about the lens equivalence one could expect DPR would stop writing "24-1248mm equivalent F2.8-5.6 zoom lens", but here we go again. I guess the advertising dollars are more important than truth.
I wonder what Freud would tell of all this measure comparing...
mpgxsvcd: This is not SLR-Like. It does not have a mirror, it is not an interchangeable lens camera, it does not have a large sensor, it does not have good ISO performance.
This is simply a super zoom fixed lens camera.
isn't pointing how pointless is a comment to a pointless post kind of pointless... HO GOD NO I DID IT KILL ME!!!
EssexAsh: were they Leica specific rubber bands? £20 each?
They are just rebadged Sony rubber bands so will work on APS too
Jogger: - $50 worth of commodity electronics- $50 for the firmware- $100 for the machined aluminium body (which is very cool)- $1600 for the Leica badge
because obviously, Jogger, developing a camera mount, on board electronic and software, lenses, testing, set up a prodution line, marketing, all rains for free down from the sky.
Dorus: The writing is prettier than the bokeh :)
yeah, if this article had no pictures, I would buy this lens
Jonathan371: I was so looking forward to receiving my petzval lens. As a wedding photographer I rely on a speed lens (50mm f/1.0) for beautiful shallow depth of field portraits. I was hoping the Petzval lens would fill a similar use in the 80mm range. I was dead wrong. After using the lens for about a month I can say it is the biggest piece of junk gear I ever owned. Lousy unflattering results.
I don't know how to say it without sounding offending...
SirSeth: My dream is that someone with brute force, like Amazon or Google will make a smart phone that allows a true choice against expensive cell carrier data allowing me to dispense with redundant mandatory data purchasing (I live in Wifi). I will buy that phone. True freedom = choice to not be force to pay for services I don't want. Let me choose my own network.
Just buy an unlocked phone and do everything you want with it. If you buy a phone at a cheaper price because it comes with a plan, then don't whine about having to pay the plan!
Sirandar: Interesting .... but no microSD and a 100$ whallop for 64GB
I am well and truly sick of Android and all it's battery mayhem. It seems Android has become a buggy mess. If FireOS was written from the ground up to actually manage your privacy and battery life this phone may actually survive.
Android seems totally incapable of preventing apps from constantly waking up phone even when it is locked in your pocket. Better Battery Stats helps but often doesn't because Android isn't really set up to identify what is actually waking your phone = deleted wakelocks and wakelocks you can't control
Once a month I am troubleshooting because my phone can't make it through the day in my pocket unused because of some update, issue or other. I don't even load new apps anymore because it is just too much trouble. Sometimes it is Google apps at fault, the Play Store for one. Try forgetting to manually kill that task and see what happens.
This does not happen on Iphone either.
BaldCol: I went on a photography 'workshop' last year with 4 other photographers and a pro.
3 of us had SLRs, tripods and the usual bag of kit. One had a Leica camera and a Channel handbag for her trip into the Sussex countryside! Tells me all I need to know about Leica users.
I'd love to see the pictures from this workshop.Image gallery titles on flikr:slr 1) wild nature in sussexslr 2) green hills of southern englandslr 3) exploring downsleica) "homeless with cheap cameras in the country" project
ConanFuji: Brushed Aluminium.Boy it'll have 1000 scratches all over it.
I doubt this, untreated aluminium oxidizes quickly, salty hand sweat would dig a hole in that premium case!
It is mirror polished (by hand) and then anodized.
Tripeiro: I am sure the target market for this camera dosen`t have a clue about what optical or software correction is...
skeen, don't take it so personal, Tripeiro comment was both ironic, and right. True, many serious photographer will buy a T. I'd buy it too if I could afford one, is both sexy and a serious tool. Yet the market that Leica will make the most income from, is probably as vanity buy from rich feticists. What do you think 45 minutes of hand polishing would be for? But this does not subtract anything to the camera or the to the buyer, is a common thing for luxury objects. Take diver watches, they may be techically perfect, precise, able to resist to the deepest of the ocean... yet way less than 1% of sold divers waches are actually used to "dive".