Sony a6000Zeiss 35/2.8, Zeiss 55/1.8, Rokinon 14/2.8, Sony 55-200/4.5
Robert Holloway: Wow some people here must lead sad and miserable lives. I'm a Sony shooter, ex Canon and loved this short film. Photography is one part gear, another part skill, another technique and another about getting out and living and capturing beauty. DPR is a gear site for sure, but to see these adventures into othe areas is most welcome. What's more Barney, you're an excellent host. Thank you and more please. I could care less about which camera is used or who sponsors.
DPR put the sponsorship note on the film and in the text. DPR explain the impact. It's not that people ask, it's the tone of many of the comments. Yup, sad and miserable indeed are these people. At the end of the day I'm a photographer, versus a gear zealot. I love reading about other gear and how people use it and the great stuff they produce. Your sad little comments define you. "Mirror man?" Is this really what you have descended to. i don't know what you shoot and don't really care. Spend your time taking photos learning to use your gear and creating joy. Reread my original comment and think about what I was saying, because your reply suggest you either didn't or can't - best wishes :)
Robert Holloway: As an ex senior marketing exec at a huge multi national consumer brand. Do not underestimate the role if opinion leaders / influencers. There is endless research within corporate offices that proves this is true.
And new ones will take their place
Wow some people here must lead sad and miserable lives. I'm a Sony shooter, ex Canon and loved this short film. Photography is one part gear, another part skill, another technique and another about getting out and living and capturing beauty. DPR is a gear site for sure, but to see these adventures into othe areas is most welcome. What's more Barney, you're an excellent host. Thank you and more please. I could care less about which camera is used or who sponsors.
As an ex senior marketing exec at a huge multi national consumer brand. Do not underestimate the role if opinion leaders / influencers. There is endless research within corporate offices that proves this is true.
ijustloveshooting: wide open sharpness and contrast of batis 85 smokes it.
I have the Batis and it does NOT "smoke" this lens. Both are excellent, but different. And BTW the GMis not way better either. You have to consider what and how you're shooting to make these all encompassing comments. There are pros and cons of each lens and some of them are subjective. take weight for example. For some it's a non issue, for others it's a decisive factor. Take the rendering of the background. Some prefer "character" and other don't. Some prefer ellipses and others circles. Take AF speed. For some it's critical and for other's it's not. Take Price..... Do you get my point? You just can't make a simplistic declaration saying one lens "smokes" another. I have used many different 85's from Canon, Sony, Zeiss and other brands. I could make a case that the 85/1.2L is the best. I owned one for 3 years, but i know many who would hate the weight, slow AF and almost impossibly shallow focus area.
This one is not of great interest to me. However, more step by step articles for post processing would be wonderful. I try and get the shot 'right' in camera, but am keen to learn more to add that x%. Many thanks!
steven gaspari: I hope to actually meet someone who owns a Sony camera someday.
Silly boy Steven. I meet two types of photographers on my shoots. Those who have Sony and those who don't and want to learn more. This is a very dangerous time. i don't have bad vibes for Canikon as I was a shooter for 35 years. The difference is huge... not small.
Glenn Barber: Yes - and we wish they had just gotten Canon to use their sensors in the pro line like Nikon did. They seem to have the best sensor technology available but can't create a camera menu system that makes sense or figure out how to QC and repair their high end products.
After 35 years I switched from Canon last year and the Sensor in the a7rii is so superior on high ISO noise and dynamic range. I don't care to argue color as this is personal and can be fixed if you have personal issues. Like the previous post, i hope that canon does not switch to Sony sensors and finds a way to fight back. Taking the bigger view, one sensor provider for Canikon and Sony is not healthy.
Sad how many people have nothing to do with their lives than write silly comments. It's not just here, but on all threads. Thanks DPR. As the owner of the Zeiss 55 and Mitakon 50 I don't need another 50 prime. However, I do think this lens will be a very interesting first prime for many, maybe followed by the 28.
TheWhiteDog: Excellent RAW processing Dan, the cameras JPEGs definitely tend to the cool side and the camera seems to underexpose a bit. But the RAW files certainly have lots of DR to work with. I'm sure the camera will be a big hit, SONY needs to show a bit more support in the way of new lenses though(G Master FF lenses don't count.)
Yup Sony / Zeiss glass is more expensive. Weird though as I switched from Canon last year and have zero regrets. Nothing wrong with Canon, just prefer the output I'm getting today.
mosc: Really great review. Even by DPR's usually high standards, this was a nice read. Beyond just the detail level, I really enjoy your writing style Mr. Butler.
I kind of expected to see "the joystick" in the pro's column and "expensive" in the con's column. Maybe I'm overstating the Joystick love. Would you still have preferred a joystick to a touchscreen-based focus selection system? Which would you prefer on the X-T2?
Also, I think it might help to have a recycled page that would get tweaked in each subsequent ILC review that discusses the state of the lens options. Specifically for the X-Pro2 you're looking hard at the capabilities and value in the "R" series primes 16/23/35/56 f1.4 and faster. Only 1 of those lenses is weather sealed though I suppose the sealed 'Fujinon XF 16-55mm f/2.8 R LM WR' is also a proper pairing covering that entire focal range.
Your clear general message: It's a stills-focused camera with inspirational handling but perhaps not a great value all-rounder.
The lens availability argument is a frequent discussion within Sony circles as well. I had the X-Pro 1 and loved the jpeg output and felt that the Fuji primes were awesome and covered most of my needs.
Really enjoyed this and would love to replace my a6000 with this wee camera. But with the a7rii gobbling up my $$ with lens purchases, it ain't gonna happen :-(
I see an evocative image that might have come from 75 years ago. As a photographer I can applaud any image from any camera. Just wonderful., but there again, all of them are.
Thanks Rishi, interesting video. I too am guilty of always jumping to 50mm + when considering portraiture. Please ignore the trolls with nothing better to do. One comment. It would be nice if you could list ALL the gear as lighting was a major component of some of these shots.
Don Diafragma: WOW! Another Sony Story....
DPR says they are independent press, but sometimes I unfortunately get the feeling they are an extension of the Sony PR machine.
Sony is on a rapid growth path bringing new products to market more frequently than Canikon. Most DPRers seem to like their products and appreciate what they are doing. then there are the sad ones who sit on the side and throw stones. Cartegena, to be honest your comments border on ridiculous. You trash a company for making f2.8 zooms to compete with Canikon when they already have f4 zooms available. You surely know that wedding photos primary lenses are these 3 maybe combined with a macro? You then throw mud at DPR staff for covering it. Go take some pictures and enjoy your gear. BTW, these 3 lenses are not for me as I crave a Batis 135/2. But here is the difference... I'm happy for others and curious to learn more. Reading about the thoughts of a key insider is great. Be happy, it really does not hurt :-)
Oh my lord, the internet is a fascinating forum where stupidity so often gravitates. I'm first and foremost a passionate photographer, secondly, i'm interested in new gear. I was a Canon shooter for many years, have owned Fuji and now use Sony. I loved the coverage of the new Nikon & Canon bodies because it's interesting and their work will push my current brand of choice.
Hi DP Review team, minor issue, no images.
bmwzimmer: Well, so much for the Mirrorless is smaller argument. Bigger/longer/heavier pro lenses plus the extra weight of batteries negates this advantage.
hah ha I guess bmwzimmer is a Canon user. I used to be one too and then used the Sony system and sold about 12 L lenses and switched. i obviously have not used these new lenses and won't be buying them. But for wedding photogs I can imagine they will all be very well received.
Robert Holloway: As an ex Canon user I worry for them. I am sure this camera is an evolution and will be well received by pro sports shooters. I cannot imagine anyone outside that group being excited about this as a new piece of kit.
I have no idea if it will pull Nikon shooters into the canon fold, I doubt it, when the cost of changing is considered.
I'd love to hear why someone would leave the Canon 5D path and jump into this, versus wait for the 5D4. I doubt it.
I shot Canon for 37 years and this feels like a dinosaur for the enthusiast market.
No joy in this post, just a feeling of... really?Rob
I switched to Sony but have a real affection for Canon and saw this release and worried that it was another small step, while competitors were running. I hope I'm wrong.
As an ex Canon user I worry for them. I am sure this camera is an evolution and will be well received by pro sports shooters. I cannot imagine anyone outside that group being excited about this as a new piece of kit.