SM7: It seems that the "new" features are those that they intentionally kept off the 600D, so they could release an "upgrade". Dirty marketing.
This is the Canon we now recognized as...they simply delay serious upgrading for as long as possible.
However they will keep selling their products and make big money still, i'm afraid...and only us, the ones who can see through their trick, wont fall prey to a pointless purchase or upgrade.
What to do?? It was quite a bitter pill for me to swallow when i first realized how come my 550D dont have this and dont have that...but now i choose to keep learning to appreciate what i have instead of getting so agitated by Canon's way of doing business (i used to get really upset by this fact, seriously)
After all, the 550D is quite a powerful tool (and toy too!) by itself. With Magic Lantern around, it makes owning and using one even more fun and meaningful.
Yeah, may u and all rebel owners always enjoy whatever version of the 18MP in hand. :-)
Tape5: Dpreview reviewers are smart. If I ran a site like this I would give both cameras ( and you surely know which two cameras I mean !) exactly the same scores too.
And even then, so much bile is secreted constantly.
Can you possibly imagine what they would be accused of if they scored one higher than the other?
Oh, about Phil...i found the thread abt him..and the whole discussion about poor old Phil is somewhat entertaining and sad at the same time.
Well, may God bless him always! ^_^
I'm a Canon user myself...but i completely agree with you.
Yep, maybe i could imagine just that.....considering the kind of people we have in our modern society, err, most probably some pyromaniac fanboys from either side will burn down DPR office in Seattle... :-P lol
Btw, what happened to Phil??? I didnt bother to find out...do u know? Anyone knows? Tq. ^_^
The arguments here at DPR is GOOD...
Doesn't matter childish or not...it helps people to learn so much from the good, bad n ugly side of it.
The more variety of debates going on, the better it is...for DPR as a company and for others to learn how to behave better.
Just imagine one day, every single member decides to leave DPR for good bcoz it's too abrasive..i bet Richard Butler and all his colleagues will be weeping uncontrollably, coz they have to shutdown DPR, go unpaid and hence jobless. Of course, that isn't going to happen to em..so they r a very happy bunch of people bcoz all of us have decided to stay...noobs, trolls, beginners or experts...and we learn so much from everyone too..it's true!
Plus they (the staff) are trying to keep us here for good..u can c 4 urself wth their recent paid review job offer by them :-)
I really love DPR..its "Dynamic Range" of people's character and knowledge here is too wide to go unappreciated..just love it!
5D mark 3...Nikon D800...(^__^)
Guys, dont be upset by this tape issue...its an expensive product, i know, and by right shld have an "expensive" solution to it too.
But what to do?? Sales is of utmost importance to any company..time is money for them...the longer you delay resolving a problem, the more loss you suffer.
If you have the money for the 5Dmkiii, i suggest you go buy n enjoy it...and remember to share it wth ur close family members, pics n usage as well (that's the best kind of sharing, imho) Just look at people like Brian Carnathan and Bob Atkins..love how they get their family so involved with their hobby..so much joy and love. Just love it! ^__^
I wont have the cash to bring this 'guy' home....but certainly love the good pictures others produce with it...and will keep enjoying the pics it can churn out.
Sdaniella: a minor fix for a minor function used only by folks still using AE metering sensors.it's no surprise that beta testing would never look at this; except next time round, assume AE metering sensors still included in the next update (most likely).
one improvement that would eliminate future issues would be to allow the top lcd which is currently a fixed one facing only up be capable of tilting up and face back toward the viewer and even a bit downwards. At least then, one can read the lcd (even better a thinner stronger more robust OLED) when standing behind the camera mount on a trip set well above eye level. An OLED wouldn't need to be side-lit at all. And if it were at least a lit tilting top lcd, past light leaks on an AE metering sensor would never be possible.
I never use AE metering sensors anyway, under any lighting conditions.
I prefer using realtime fulltime full FOV image area live exposure evaluation instead. It's much more accurate than any AE meter sensor by any Mfr
I have to admit i'm still using the AE, and only the ExpSim LV occasionally.
OLED would be great, i agree...but Canon would exact at least another $500 from us "poor" people..and i cant even afford a 5Dii, let alone a 5D with OLED...tho it will be mainstream someday i believe.
yeah, yeah..you are one heck of camera woman, arent ya? (yeah smile in delight all you want..coz you really deserve it ^_^)
I've read quite a few of your comments..all of em great stuff. Good to have thinking people like you around in DPR..and for such a long time too.
Olgierd: A good solution is a simple solution. Why bother with something else if simple tape takes care of the problem. Plus it's inside the camera, means it's not changing aesthetic of 5D3 at all.
Very true what u said...believe it or not, i just got my 550D rubber grip replaced by my local Canon service centre as it came out (wth a year plus of warranty left, so paid nothing for it all..hehe), along with replacing the silver tape on my 18-135mm lens which also detached itself, and glueing back a peeling light absorbing rubber lining at the rear end of my 55-250mm...yes, three STICKY TAPE related problem in one visit...tho they did a quick (only 2 days) and good job (gave me a new grip and silver tape) without any fee and with absolute politeness.
Well, the people in the country i live in usually are mild mannered..so, it will be a different story perhaps for an American Canon service centre, no offense ya, where i read lots of rudeness and incompetence going on for non-CPS customers, that is.Yep, a bodge is still a bodge, like it or not..either people will overlook it, or stand up against it. For me personally, i'm learning hard to live in the "overlooking" camp ^
New Guy Wanna Learn: I'm still using the 550D...probably will never be able to own a 5D..mk ii or iii...but what i said is definitely what i felt initially when scrutinizing Roger's pictures.
The bottom line is this, if we learn to be SO MUCH less fussy with such things in life, like the tape issue, then life would be SO MUCH more enjoyable.
A guy still learning sth new everyday...
Yeah, i understand your intention well...with the added FOV, more Bokeh, lower noise performance, probably heftier investment in FF lenses and a bunch more of advantages, surely you wont be taking a step backwards to crop sensor...
Well, this is what i heard frm others..."dont buy and use Canon "L" lenses (or any similar high end glass), coz once u use it, there's no turning back...no more EF-S or lower grade glass for you..as you will be totally intoxicated by its image quality!"
Till now, I'm still using my 18-135mm as standard kit lens..i'm very happy and fine with it, even though many photogs in my country try to sell it off from their 550D kit lens package. :-P
New Guy Wanna Learn: I dont blame those people for "fussing" over this tape thing...
Though the tape solution is very cheap & practical...esp. for Canon themselves...it is done in SUCH a cheapskate, unprofessional-looking, crude, and almost rude & offensive manner for those buyers, who paid a high premium price for an equally premium product like the 5Dmkiii...at least this is the kind of "feeling" that i got, when looking at Roger's uploaded pictures.
Did he tampered with the tape itself? Did he peeled it off to have a look and put it back? i dunno...
Canon should AT LEAST get some of their brainy engineers to come up with a simple, cheap molded plastic made of ABS or sth else to cover it up. They could easily appoint any company anywhere in China, which specializes in plastic manufacturing. After all, things can be done very cheaply over there..well, like as if we dun know tat ^__^
But of course that will consume lots of time...thus loss ..not in production, but lots of loss in sales around the world
On another note, is there a serious flaw somewhere in the design of the mkiii circuitry (or many flaws) which may cause the internal components to interact disruptively with each other, and that's why they are practically slapping on layers of those tapes everywhere, just to prevent that? I dunno...after all, Roger said Canon almost entirely redesigned the innards of the 5D to the point it shld be renamed 6D, lol...but he did say "it’s one of those where I want to compliment the engineers. This camera is beautiful inside, logically laid out and well built" just to be fair....did canon reveal the reasons behind it? Any who knows?
I'll try googgling first...hehe ^_^
Thanks...i wont, for sure...and for a long time to come too.
I've got a Celestron C5 and it works awesomely with my little fella. ^__^
Well, i suppose you can get another one back on the cheap, if you want...rgt?
Actually i dont wanna reply to ur comment...no offence, but its just a waste of my time. ^o^
Nevertheless, i think i need to enlighten u a bit on urself..
No 1 - U shld go tell people like Mr. Cicala to value his sanity..since he's the one who dissected and enjoyed the "inside" view regularly...the other person, as i can think of at this very moment, with the same level of "insanity" as you said..would be Kai frm DigitalReview.com and his "bloody" producer, whom he "affectionately" refers to. U will do very well to advice them thru email on staying sane. ^_^
No 2 - Famous Restaurant analogy u saying? People pay for the food they eat...not for the cleanliness of the kitchen they DON'T own...well, not so for customers who paid $3000++ for a platter of "expensive, high quality" fish and 'FF CMOS' chips..lol ^_^
As i said, the less fussy you are, the more enjoyable life will be..that's why i'm still using my 550D happily. Geddit?
Of course i know my friend...that's why i said its "practical". Did you not read that part for yourself? Hmm? ^_^
Yes, i know its used elsewhere..go read Roger's other link on 5D mk iii Strip Tease..cool and daring attempt by him and his mate..tho i know there are many others who took apart DSLR for modding.
No, i did not neglect that remark deliberately..."smart & intelligent" readers like you should be able to read and comprehend that part for themselves. Furthermore, Roger said this too, "I HAVEN'T SEEN this on other cameras.." in the Strip Tease article regarding the extensive usage of tape in 5Diii.
Yes, he did "his best" too to say lots of good stuff about the tape later on..for surely he doenst wanna do a disservice to a giant like Canon, rite? ^o^ ...go read the whole article for yourself. ^_^
Still, its just my honest opinion and personal feeling about the whole issue. As i also mentioned, in case u overlook that too, the less you fuss, the better you'll live.^
I'm still using the 550D...probably will never be able to own a 5D..mk ii or iii...but what i said is definitely what i felt initially when scrutinizing Roger's pictures.
I dont blame those people for "fussing" over this tape thing...
Ok, i just watched the videos frm peta...so no need to explain. Tq
Software can be easily written to compensate for the light leak i think. No need to send in for physical servicing..
If the noon sun is shining down on it, will it have any effect?? I dont own one..so dunno..how about strong halogen lighting shining down on it while doing indoor shooting? Wil anything happen? Tq.
Is it possible to for magic lantern to make 4k mode available on 550D or on of its current supported DSLR?
Anyone who knows pls let me know...just curious to know. Thanks!
Yeah, i think Canon didnt make a mistake after all...they're pretty smart people and got it all pre-calculated long before the launch...
Especially those d*mn wealthy people (and there's plenty of them around even in my so called 3rd world country) who are video and photo aficionado will be ever willing to part with their cash...after all i see they are ever willing to keep buying Ferraris, Porsches, renovating their mansion and collect all the latest Rolex watches...this Canon 1DC is just peanut to them.
Most certainly, we who are cant afford...just cant afford. Canon definitely wont be aiming to make our money on this one...yes, the T4i / 650D we will be willing to buy, but not this this guy. :-P
Nevertheless, imho, this is a very good way for Canon to boast of its capabilities...especially with Nikon currently threatening them with their own 2012 DSLR releases. :-P
Guys, how come this doesnt look like the one at canon rumours? That one on the right hand side looks so like a mean beast!
The one shown here looks just like 1 dx...
Thanks guys, for all the efforts put into reviewing the 5D Mark iii...and also for so many other cameras through all these years....love it!!
Well done! ^__^