Timur Born: Tempting camera and glass. But at least the pre-production NX1 has some serious issues. AF-C really is rather broken yet, sometimes lost in hunting land for several seconds on well defined targets. I demonstrated it to some Korean techs there and they thanked me for the feedback, and hopefully will get it working much better in the final release.
Probably connected to this issue is the shutter button half-press feel, or lack thereof. I often couldn't tell whether I was half-pressing or not and when I tried to find the right pressure point I often released the shutter unwillingly. The above mentioned AF-C issues where sometimes the camera didn't seem to do anything played into this.
Another issue for me is the viewfinder optics. I had to press my kaukasian long nose tight to the screen in order to get a clear view of the viewfinder. And even then the edges were problematic. Sometimes it was jittering.
Face Detection is a let-down for the processing power available.
Work in progress.
Thank you, but the shutter button worked, when it worked it either worked fast or slow, too often slow. There were four Samsung representatives present, three of which were Korean. If they didn't come up with a solution other than stating the pre-production state and "thank you for the feedback" then we won't come to another solution here either.
At least the Samsung representatives repeatedly underlined that this was pre-production firmware and thus not finished. Seeing the reproducibly changing performance - anywhere between milliseconds and several seconds - of AF-C on the same targets I tend to agree that it's not finished yet. I told them that I will wait for a finished product then to assess its performance.
Let's hope that the three Korean guys took the demonstration serious, because there was no denying that hunting repeatedly was sloooooow. The hardware should offer lots of performance, so the software is the part that needs a workout. And without proper software there camera computers are nothing.
The E-M1 has a soft one, too. The problem was more that the NX1 didn't really react/focus at all sometimes and then I tried more push and it released. Mechanically it didn't give away whether I was pushing too soft or whether it was just not doing its job.
Tempting camera and glass. But at least the pre-production NX1 has some serious issues. AF-C really is rather broken yet, sometimes lost in hunting land for several seconds on well defined targets. I demonstrated it to some Korean techs there and they thanked me for the feedback, and hopefully will get it working much better in the final release.
Will there be some kind of DPR headquarter booth on Photokina to come around and say hello? ;)
iae aa eia: I hope Fujifilm feels they have proved to their consumers and to themselves they could do a heck of a corrected lens, a heck of a sensor,... a heck of a very good camera that can deliver a heck of good image quality from this stupid little sensor (not stupid in a phone, though) and launch its successor with 1" sensors. Please, Fujifilm, satisfy yourself with this 2/3" once for all, will you? Or, just get into the phone industry!
Ever been to a tv studio and seen the crazy amount of light burning from the ceiling? :P
Some people don't want less light or less zoom range in their lens, hence they prefer smaller sensors with more zoom and hopefully wider aperture. I had a X10 (2/3") and now use a LF1 (1/1.7") as my real pocket camera (except for it eating all the dust of my pockets). I even accept the slower lens at tele range in order to get more reach and a vastly smaller package.
So while 1" is nice and good, it's not everyone's preferred format.
Swinden: Look - for instance - at picture nr. 8 of the Bèta-samples: again this horrible smearing effect, as worse as in the X20. Don't you folks really see that? What does Fuji expect from us: that we take pictures or make aquarelles?
The smearing is not only a result of noise-reduction, but a result of the camera sometimes grossly underexposing and then pushing digital gain. It leaves a good 2 stops of unused headroom for highlights, while smearing mids and shadows with noise. At least that is what the X20 does.
Here is a comparison that demonstrates the issue:
Timur Born: What the monkey thing thought us: (Semi-automatic) Equipment is more important than the person behind the lens. :P
What the monkey thing thought us: (Semi-automatic) Equipment is more important than the person behind the lens. :P
mayurgogoi: To collect it is very tough--so many items--good collection -but I need some of items close photos-in first photograph we have seen few white balls near a small container-these should be specific and it could be taken under normal light -green back ground-or macro photography-We can understand the time period through single pics----but more to add--!
More close ups please to depict the time--may be the words--made in England,china,Russia,Germany--then we can understand the country where it was made,we can understand the technology applied then.
I have read that once Made In Germany was famous--German Knives were Razor sharp--but then Japanese good were worst in quality--now that Japan is world leader by means of dedication ,hard work.
Actually (AFAIK) the "Made in Germany" label was invented by the British to kind of "warn" against German copies of originally English industrial goods. Germany's industry was just evolving and copied lots of things cheaply that were already established. Only later "Made in Germany" became a label of quality and others took over the job of cheap copying.
Thanks for the article and demonstration shots. Enjoy your vacation!
W5JCK: Darth "M4/3" Vader, "Luke, come to the Dark Side of digital photography."
Seriously though, a good article that correctly backs up the physics and true life usage.
Will this change the minds of the M4/3 and 1" crowds? Nope. They are religiously devoted to their noisy, little cameras and quite content to believe the fanatics among them who proclaim the laws of physics to be untrue and evil. They will remain in the Dark Ages of digital photography. No Renaissance awakening for them.
"I'm not bashing the gear"... "those toys are worthless"!
quailoaksphoto: I observed some significant moire in the a7s at lower ISO which was obscured by noise at higher ISO. Because of this, I would not consider the a7s, especially for video.
There are two reasons for the moire you noticed:
1) Less pixels = less resolution = more prone to moire with very fine detail. Nyquist and such...
2) Lightroom's demosaicing algorithm isn't able to resolve very fine detail without producing labyrinth patterns. The latter are deliberately smeared away by LR, which in turn produces moire instead. Other raw converters might get away without the moire on the very same areas (Raw Therapee being one example).
brycesteiner: Both the E-M5 and the E-M1 were great cameras when released and Olympus continues to upgrade them when issues are found. With image quality so high on all models now, I think this may be the difference between companies that survive in the future.
Updates for the E-M5 (issues) are not exactly on their agenda, but I like the ongoing love for the E-M1.
Timur Born: Will dust stay out when this camera is stuffed into a pocket? The main drawback of my Panasonic LF1 (smaller than RX) is that dust creeps in very fast and now some of my images are full of dark spots.
Thanks for the answers!
If I need a case the whole idea of a "pocket camera" is moot. The RX100 already is too big to comfortably wear it in a jeans pocket (hence why I bought the LF1). A RX100 + case would compete against dust and weather sealed MicroFourThird that fit in jacket pockets, too.