This seems targeted at a different customer than the GP..it doesn't have 4k video which for some is a deal breaker, but for most people the iq is more than sufficient. The focus here is on grabbing all sorts of data from other sources, and on that score garmin is ahead of everyone. Again, not everyone will want this, but for some it is key. As for battery life, I guess the gps and other connectivity has an impact which is too bad.
More competition is good, but most of these companies are missing a very important attribute that is needed to go hiking with any gear...and that is water. There are hardly any backpacks that can take camera gear and a hydration bladder...Mindshift comes to mind as the best of the lot along with clik on some of their bags.
richard cohen: Good explanation of the issue. I have to send my d750 back in, and the biggest problem I have is being without the camera for up to three weeks! I was hoping to get a second body at some point, and that is going to have to wait until after the repairs are done. I never experienced this problem and probably never would, but the value of an 'unfixed' d750 will be a lot less than one that has had the repair, so I will send it in. Nikon is making it very easy, just put in the serial number and then print out shipping label. Free both ways which is the way it should be, and no b.s. about sales receipts or anything else they sometimes use to refuse service. All in all, this is the way I would hope nikon would react, they could not have done a better job imo. After all the bashing they have taken, they deserve kudos for the way this is being handled.
Second body will also likely be a d750, so I'm going to wait until the repaired ones are widely available, as will repaired refurbs.
Good explanation of the issue. I have to send my d750 back in, and the biggest problem I have is being without the camera for up to three weeks! I was hoping to get a second body at some point, and that is going to have to wait until after the repairs are done. I never experienced this problem and probably never would, but the value of an 'unfixed' d750 will be a lot less than one that has had the repair, so I will send it in. Nikon is making it very easy, just put in the serial number and then print out shipping label. Free both ways which is the way it should be, and no b.s. about sales receipts or anything else they sometimes use to refuse service. All in all, this is the way I would hope nikon would react, they could not have done a better job imo. After all the bashing they have taken, they deserve kudos for the way this is being handled.
I just bought a d750 (still in transit), and can't wait to put it through its paces. It will either end up as an often used backup camera, or hopefully a replacement for my d4. I don't often (if ever) go above 1/4000 sec, and don't often (if ever) use the full fps of the d4, so 6.5 fps should be good enough. Having a camera capable of taking images the equal of the d4 in low light with a little higher resolution, with the same focus system, might be just the ticket for me.
Good price, good specs. This will sell well.
I am glad to see more gopro competitors, it can only be good for consumers. Having some semblance of real camera controls in addition to video capabilities is a plus. Lower prices would be nice as well, and they will surely come. The most interesting of the lot imo is the garmin vibe, which links in gps capabilities along with video..but they have no still camera functions of note.
Retzius: Or, you can just wait 6 months and it will be on firesale for $399.99
They made a lot of v1's so they had to dump them. They did not make many v2's so they haven't had to dump them, they just aren't selling. I think the same will be the case with the v3. Very few will buy them, so as long as they don't make many there will be a few people to buy it, but most will balk at the price. If they make a lot of them, they will eventually have to get dumped. That is the only way I'd consider buying one.
Nikon does not seem to want to learn anything on pricing. The v1, while a really good first effort, was vastly overpriced so they ended up dumping them. The v2 is also vastly overpriced but I think they decided not to make many of them so you just don't see many people using them. I fear the same will be the result here....people will buy cheaper alternatives (which will be everything else) and these will languish. Nikon better not make many of these because they won't sell many at anywhere near this price.
Also, with the evf and grip it looks a lot like the v2...and it looks like if you attach the evf you can't use an external flash.
A nice freshening of what already was an amazing camera. Not enough to get me to upgrade however....maybe a D5 some day.
We are going to Baja next month to see the whales in the lagoons. I've been toying with what underwater camera to get, and I have not been happy with my choices, at least on my budget. The nikon aw110, the canon d20, and most of the rest aren't good enough as cameras for me. The oly tg-1/2 seem a bit better, at a higher price. What I think I am going to do is to get the polaroid housing for my nikon v1 which is only $130 and most people seem to like it.
There is a limited market for cameras such as this. The nikon comes close but doesn't quite make it imo..the lens is best in class and now with articulating screen and evf that is also something the competition does not offer, but to date the nikons have been relatively bad performers for some reason. It is not like nikon doesn't know how to make fast a/f and generally snappy performing cameras, but for some reason they have not been willing or able to do so with their high end p series.
For me the perfect p camera would be the same lens and screens as 7800 with performance as fast as canon g series and wireless. That would be a great camera. Still too many compromises with the 7800.
I have a D4 and am happy to be able to use my 3d glasses now to get better viewing from its images... :)
Seriously, more three dimensional? If the already great white balance is further improved that would be great and any improvement in the already great iq is fine as well...but the hyperbole on this is a bit much.
Fun read, I learned a couple of things. Not about the cameras, which are about a dead heat, but about how they think about their equipment.
Scottish Kev: Forgive me if this has already been covered but I spent a long time looking for a backpack that would carry camera gear and hiking gear, as when you are out in the wilds you dont have "just" your camera gear and then wear everything else. This bag like many out there only does camera gear.
Why dont more bag manufacturers actually design bags to carry camera gear and personal gear.
Oh and I did find a 1 or maybe 2 manufacturers who do what I think is a sensible back pack for hiking/carrying personal gear and I bought one but it was stupidly expensive (such is this camera/hobby/addiction ah well) but it does an awesome job!
Clik Elite is about the only game in town for you. I focus on hydration capabilities because if you can't carry enough water you can't use the pack for very long. Only Clik has camera packs that can take a 100oz bladder plus camera and other gear. Cool company as well.
Any time I see a new 'active' photographer pack the first thing I check for is hydration support. Any bag that doesn't fit a 100oz bladder in my book falls short of the mark...which unfortunately is the case with these packs. They can hold a 1.5l bladder in a side pocket which is not nearly enough for a serious hiker or mtn biker. plus it looks like you will have to buy that bladder (non-standard size) seperately. So for me this doesn't work, and i'll keep my Clik Elite bag for those times when I want to bring my camera while being out on the trail all day.
A companion for my d4 perhaps? Although I can't imagine preferring how this would handle, but Nikon sure seems to have nailed most features for a dx camera with this bad boy!
I'm wondering why they even bothered with this firmware update. There are likely some other tweaks they could have tossed in which would have been greatly appreciated, but just this one little fix on startup? Surprised they bothered.
marike6: What did we learn? That the 24-70 Nikkor is still the best standard zoom money can buy, the D800E the highest resolving camera DSLR in existence, and that the Tamron 24-70 VC, especially on the D800, is a great value.
I haven't read the article yet, but from the comments I think I learned that both Nikon and Canon put out some pretty amazing gear, and that the third party lens companies do as well.
any quesses on pricing of the 70-200?