EvilTed: Looks rather ordinary to my eyes.Sadly there is none of the character and quality of the Batis lenses.I think I'll pass and wait for the new smaller Zeiss 24-70 F2 that is coming...
Just looked there now and I'm even less impressed :(
SonyAlphaRumors announced new Zeiss lenses coming later this year, including an 18mm Batis and a 24-70 F2 in the same form factor as the existing 24-70 F4.
This 24-70 G is heavier than the 70-200 F4 :(
Looks rather ordinary to my eyes.Sadly there is none of the character and quality of the Batis lenses.I think I'll pass and wait for the new smaller Zeiss 24-70 F2 that is coming...
I cancelled my order because of this...
PKDanny: Ricoh GR and GR II geot new firmware...... release today......
@PKDanny and they didn't either allow auto ISO in M mode or fix the high ISO problem with TaV mode.WTF Ricoh?
(unknown member): It resembles so much a digital camera I used at the dawn of the previous millennium: http://www.dcviews.com/specs/images/mu_m800f.jpg LMAO
Who shoots street wide open?F2.8 is too fast for street.I shoot F8 and F16 with mine and it is perfect!
Geodesiq: It's a bloated, overpriced, underfeatured trophy camera for insecure photographers more interested in their image than the image. You can almost justify the camera price but $5k for a 24-90 zoom??? Does anyone in their right mind think they'll see any difference between this and a typical high end zoom from the competition for 1/3 - 1/4 the price??? The Sony a7rII beats this in every way.
@HowaboutRAWYou're pretty far from an expert either :)
@HowaboutRAWActually the earlier ones from Vietnam were all Leica...Back to your armchair, expert...
We'll just have to agree to disagree then.At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what gear you use, it matters what images you make.
You can see my work here:
Oh please.The 75mm Summicron APO is a much better lens and I prefer the 90 APO to it.
Film era lenses, I still own: 35mm F2 Cron "8-elements", 50mm F2 Cron "Rigid", Summilux 50mm F1.4 "Type 2" and a new old stock Summicron 90mm F2 Type 2.
Film era lenses have a nice retro look because they cannot resolve the digital sensors correctly. They were designed in an analog world and as a result, have none of the corrections required baked in.
Modern Leica lenses are a totally different thing IMHO...
You are beginning to sound like my wife :)
@HowaboutRAW The Summicron 90 APO is one of THE best Leica lenses, along with the 50 APO and the 21 SEM, all of which I owned + 35 Lux FLE, 50 Lux ASPH etc. I've owned and shot with most of them...
The silent shutter loses some DR and can be an issue under electrical lights, but it is still so much better than not having it.I owned an A7 II and it was the worst street camera ever.The shutter sounded like a pneumatic tool going off :(It's good to be able to make the trade off and turn it off or on as required.
M = M 240.Film Leilas don't band? Really?The M and the Q most definitely band, pretty noticeably...
I too have handled the SL and it is just too much for too little for me. If they'd made an interchangeable lens Q, then they would have nailed it IMHO.I own a D810 and fast big zooms already.The SL brings nothing to that game for me.For this I'll buy Nikon or Canon every time...
BTW, I thoroughly tested my M 240 + 90 APO against my D750 + 85 1.8G before I sold all my Leica's.The only advantage the Leica has is size and with the SL, it sadly doesn't even have that.
Your money - your choice.
@HowaboutRAW A7r II has a silent shutter mode :)Seriously, this thing is a tank. For that size and weight, I'll pick the D810 any day.
I'll wager it bands like every Leica ever made (and I owned M and MM), including the Q.
Nice, but too big for me.Steve Huff loves it and Ming Thein doesn't.Believe who you trust most...
RC Photography: Very nice review. Thanks Rishi Sanyal, Richard Butler, and Dan Bracaglia.
For anyone looking for a new system with $3400, this should be at the top of the list.
To TheGreatfulBread , I saw the D750 on eBay for $1600 recently. Anyone on a smaller budget looking at stills only could not go wrong with that.
Yeah but not on the A7r II. The A7s II is OK, but the old AI-S lenses aren't really a good match for the 42MP sensor.Some are better than others and I have a huge collection from 20mm to 200mm, including all the stars...
rev32: 90%? Really? What does the D810 get, which clears the sensor more quickly and can be used for sports and wildlife? 95%?
I have a Nikon D810 and D750 as well as a Sony A7r II and A7s II.They are different cameras for different use cases.
For Landscape and Astro (tripod) - D810.For Sports - D750For Wildlife - D810 or D750For Long and Fast zooms - Nikon
For Handheld - SonyFor Low light - SonyFor Travel - SonyFor Street - SonyFor Primes - Zeiss on SonyFor Slower lighter zooms - Sony
I previously owned Leica M and MM and the best glass.Sony with Zeiss is better IMHO.
I previously owned A7 II and A7s and sold them to buy Nikon, but missed the EVF and hand hold-ability so sold Leica and bought back into Sony, but this time with Loxia and Batis lenses.They make a BIG difference.
FujLiver: I am very worried.Robbed of their last angle of attack the anti-Sony brigade might self-harm ...
Not mine, sorry.Maybe some have issues and some do not.Mine is razor sharp.
I have around a dozen Nikon AI-S MF lens and shoot them with a Novoflex adapter.All the way from 20mm F2.8 - 200mm F4.There are zero issues with 5x magnification with any of these lenses. Again, I use B+W with red focus peaking set to medium and it is tack sharp. No differences between 5x and 12x...
No problem with 5x magnification with me.Tested it thoroughly with Zeiss Loxia 50 last night and it is crisp sharp throughout the image in the EVF.
I do shoot RAW+JPG and use B+W profile with red peaking on medium.Maybe it's the color display that screws it up?
dcolak: There is also the problem with the buffer flushing speed.
Take a couple of single shots in rapid succession and the camera bogs down and you have to wait for it to empty the buffer.
3200 USD camera that doesn't let you shoot too many pictures in a row and I am not talking about continuous shooting.
DPReview, try taking several photos of a moving kid! ;-)
More and more this looks like a landscape camera and nothing else.
No, I don't like wearing glasses period.Varifocals don't help, so don't be a smart ass...