jhinkey: Why not just make a high quality Samyang extender with all the pass-through electronics (if there are any) so that the user doesn't have to carry around an extender with each lens?I know there is data that shows extenders/adapters can cause problems, but there's no reason a high quality extender can't be made that mitigates or minimizes these problems. After all people are putting speed boosters and tele-extenders between their lenses and bodies all the time . . .
Because they didn't want to do it that way.Deal with it. If they did, someone would be whining about why they didn't make it one piece so you didn't have to carry around an extender to get lost.
Cane: This thread is like a bunch of whining toddlers that haven't been feed breakfast yet. My God people, look at yourselves! It's embarrassing. I truly think this entire website exists to give old people an outlet to complain about everything, because that's what they do best.
jHinkey, it's the same behavior. Must be a circle of life type thing.
This thread is like a bunch of whining toddlers that haven't been feed breakfast yet. My God people, look at yourselves! It's embarrassing. I truly think this entire website exists to give old people an outlet to complain about everything, because that's what they do best.
sixby06: I hardly expected Samyang to turn around brand new optical designs. This series of lenses took some years to develop and produce, and seem to be something of a success for them. They presumably decided to modify the lenses to capitalise on the market that Sony will (based on historical evidence) fail to provide for, and negate the problems caused by adapters, without going "deep" enough as to do a complete redesign. It's common business sense, really.
Sadly it means these lenses won't balance very well on the A7/R, but Sony aren't in the business of making well thought-out complete mirrorless systems, so the options are a) use adapted Leica and suffer the blurry corners, b) use Samyang and suffer the extra bulk, or c) hope and pray someone eventually makes something that fits your needs.
Seriously, I can't stand it when people whine about balance. You have two hands, use them.
Oh, well I guess it's settled then. If Jogger uses his equipment a certain way, we all must. All those people that use their FF for things other than a specific task have been doing it wrong the whole time!
Alastair Norcross: Given that the Canon lens can be bought for less than the Sigma, because of the widespread availability of the Canon as a kit lens sold with several DSLRs, there would seem to be no reason for Canon users to consider the Sigma. It looks like a fine lens, but certainly not better than the Canon in any way that will show up in real world shooting.
Do other brand shooters even exist?
ryan2007: The samples are not that impressive to make me want to buy the camera. Any DSLR or mirror-less camera can do this from what is shown here. I don't see how you are getting what you pay for here.
Has there ever not been a comment like this for sample pics of a single camera released on this site. It's like the sun rising. Why even bother?
KL Matt: It must have been quite a challenge to take so many photographs with an f/1.4 lens and reveal so little about its out-of-focus rendering. Was that the aim here? Make certain every last bit of the image was sharp from corner to corner? Besides the one flower shot and maybe the whiskey cellar to a small extent, I don't have much more of an impression of how this lens renders than I did before. But yes, it does indeed appear to produce sharp images. :-/
The gallery only holds 30 pictures. they would have had to take 31, not to mention the time/labor costs involved in extra photo shoot time.
Stephan J: At first glance, there are no pictures of buildings ie. straight lined / perspective images posted on the Samyang webpage for this lens.
A year ago, this lens was announced on DPR, the launch was to be imminent.
In the first quarter of the year, all went quiet - I then learnt that the launch did not go ahead because of signicant distortion problems close to the edges. Are they hiding something?
Good catch. I mean who would use a 10mm rectilinear lens for architecture?
Frank_BR: Nano coating? Oh, no, another manufacturer who tries to tell other version of the same old fairy tale about lens coating!
It all started in the '60s when Asahi Pentax created a hype with SMC (Super Multi-Coating). Since then, the world has had to hear all this blah blah blah about the magical qualities of the various types of coating used in photographic lenses.
Some acronyms created since then by the fertile imagination of the lens manufacturers:SMC PentaxEBC: FujiT*: ZeissMC: Pentacon, CZJ, TokinaSSC: CanonC: NikonN: NikonSHMC: HoyaUMC: SamyangVMC: Vivitar
And with Pentax, it costs you about $100 for them to wipe this coating onto the glass.
Canon, the king of evolution, not revolution, comes out with and even more bland than ordinary upgrade. Yawn.
Cane: So funny listening to people's viewfinder battle. Are any of you really trying to convince the other side of something? It's like yelling at clouds.
Sounds like Wakaba missed soup time today at the old folks home.
So funny listening to people's viewfinder battle. Are any of you really trying to convince the other side of something? It's like yelling at clouds.
UnitedNations: There goes my plans of getting any of the future Fuji X APS-C sensor Xtrans cameras. The Sony A7r & A7 here totally blows away even the RX1r & Fuji X-Pro1 on JPEG image processing & dynamic range(not only resolution)... This just shows how expensive the Fujis really are. Now that the A7 is out, Fuji will not be able to price their X-Pro1 or X-E2 & their future X lineup as high as they are doing now. Competition sure is a good thing for the consumers.
Filling your hard drive with pictures if strangers is overrated anyway.
newe: So...what is the best price for people to eliminate the complaints?
I have thought about this a bit...if I could get just photoshop cloud for $5 a month I would do that, with NO price increases. I may even sign a contract (like a cell) for 3 years.
Wonder why they don't do that?
ECM, it doesn't work like that, just false stereo types you are spreading.
pumeco: Every time I see people whining about Adobe pricing they remind me of me before I wised-up and decided to ignore the greed altogether. I switched from a Windows/Corel setup to a Linux/RawTherapee/GIMP setup and have no reason to look back - none whatsoever.
Not only do I have a free setup, I also have an operating system that doesn't invade my privacy, I'm in control over what it does.
The only reason Adobe are the industry standard is because purchasers of their products put them there - they keep 'feeding' them. The alternatives are often more powerful and in a lot of cases (such as the setup specified above) free!
Spend your money on your wife, your kids, yourself even. Leave Adobe to their own devices and with a bit of luck they'll fold without you even knowing about it. If everyone used the GIMP and RawTherapee, those would eventually become the industry standard and Adobe would be no more.
It's simple really: stop whining, stop feeding them, and make that free switch!
Pumeco, I am trying to find out if the programs you said you use instead of Adobe's are just as good, or is there some suffering involved to get the same work out of them, as in GIMP's interface vs. Adobe's?
You sound just like my father-in-law and many other old people I know, paper shredder running every day, conspiracies about every entity on earth out the screw you, corporations, government, etc. Like most retires, you have to have a lot of free time to remain electronically off the grid, so to speak.
Pumeco, I get the conspiracy driven policies to fight the man, but that doesn't answer my question about apples and suffering.
Are the other products apples to apple with Adobe, or like every liberal anti-business boycott there's suppose to be some suffering involved?
How long is the price good for, one year or forever? They leave that language very vague! On purpose or stupidity?
xeriwthe: when will some non money grubbing company finally knock adobe off it's pedestal and release SW that everyone wants and uses? good lord, greed + SW is going to be the end of humanity
The reason people go to work is to make money. They aren't doing it to do you a favor.