gLOWx: There is a common confusion between HDR needing TONE MAPPINGAnd EXPOSURE FUSION.I don't even speak about FAKE HDR with a single picture...
True HDR create an HDR image (usually 32bits) witch is not visible on any media (screen, print...).Then apply "Tone Mapping" to "compress" the "over"dynamic to visible image format like a JPEG, TIFF...
Exposure Fusion is NOT True HDR.Because it don't create any HDR (32bits) intermediary image.It just "pick" the bests pixels on each picture and create directly the final one.And it is faster.
So i can tell you one thing : there is NO camera doing True HDR nowadays ;)-They do fake HDR with a single picture by raising the contrast/saturation/etc...-They do Exposure Fusion with multiple bracketed pictures.
But they DON'T do True HDR.
True HDR, for now, is limited to more powerful devices like computers and may be tablets, phones.
Use any Exposure Fusion for natural result.And you can try SNS-HDR (my fav) if you want True HDR natural result.
Technically, any consumer monitor can only display 8 bit of colors, so anything above that, like a 14bit raw, already is a "HDR".
I allways tought this was possible, never belivied the excuse " a larger sensor would make the lens of a superzoom unpratical", and in fact, fujifilm proved those that argued that, completely wrong.
I was imagining a 1/1.6 10mpx sensor like those of the S90, but they did it even better with a 2/3.maybe this kinda of quality for a superzoom would canibalize on sales of bulky expensive zoom lens thenselves and some photographers would rather had a second camera just for zoom and as backup instead of a bulky lens for that matter. ANyway, price is a little killer tough.
Pavel Sokolov: Who need an unscratchable lens when you should buy new iphone every year? ;)
Let me gess pumeco, you live in Korea.
Sony allways have some interesting products. But their almost allways have a ridiculous price range. I'm out of this one too.
Is it even possible for such a tiny lens to resolve 8 megapixels of detail to the sensor? Yes i know this question is old and was asked when the 4s came out, but never read a response to it
LiSkynden: Just watched a video where Phil Schiller guy bragged about their new product and i dont know ... is it kind of sad that the main thing seems to be that "we made the thinest smartphone ever" and wow, its 18% thinner. I mean that is something. ... or is it?
That is lie. There is about 2 or 3 phones out there that are thinnest. So what?
Apple stated is the same sensor. Same specs. Lower iso is just software/firmware updates.
Especulating things that go against official statements from a mere EXIF sounds very unprofessional inmho. But that is now the basis with all the blind hype surrouding apple. The differences could easily be explained by revised processing software.
If indeed there is a new sensor with the same mpx, it's probably the worst gain in a revised sensor in history.
Omg 16mpx? Im disapointed. FZ40 was a total fiasco in IQ thanks to the increase from the previous FZ35, from 12 to 14mpx. I can´t see this having better IQ than the FZ47.
C'mon panasonic, you're better than sony. Now if i want a superzoon i will have to spend more on the FZ200.
If only they made such a camera with a revised 1.63 LX5 sensor. That would be just damn perfect.
flyintheointment: MANUAL ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate the electronic zooms. Not fast enough or precise enough for framing pics.
I have an FZ35 that I still use.
I have been looking at getting something new with a new sensor in it. This would be a contender, except for not having a manual zoom.
Manual zoon is awfull for video. What i wanted tough, is a multi-speed zoom lever. The more i press the lever, the faster the zoom would go. That would be perfect for video.
cgarrard: What is the max aperture at wide angle? f/2.8 as well?
Yes, that is all about this camera.
coastcontact: Even granting that there are some improvements in this model compared to the FZ150, the total weight of the camera is an issue! Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX200V weighs 1.29 lb and now so does this camera. It becomes no fun when the camera gets heavier. I have the FZ150 (1.16 lb) and also the FZ28 that weighs 14.71 oz. You think I can feel the difference?
Sony fanboy detected. Comment invalidated.
Michael_13: Image quality is very limited - size and zoom range cause this. One of the few "superzoomers" with decent iq is (or better was) Panasonics FZ38.
SX260 for small superzoon will beat this crappy 18mpx any day.
yet, i miss my FZ35 quality. Even FZ150 hardly beats it with a much higher price point.
iae aa eia: well, they gotta have to continue to supply the consumers-led-by-the-megapixel-race market, right? i will not spend much time here saying how stupid is an 18mp camera with such a tiny sensor. i would never buy it (unless it had 10mp) and think rx100 is THE compact now.
but being positive about it, i liked the effectiveness of its image stabilisation system at full tele... and for not stopping here, i also liked dpreview using some dcr data to complete this review. and i didn't know dcr was the first review website. interesting to know that.
Even the RX100 has too much megapixel.
They should stop already at 10mpx at 1/2.3 Ant 12~16mpx on larger1/1.7~1 sensor.
Instead of phisically increasing sensor size, why don´t they cread some kind of marketing gimmick like "super sample 20mpx", with software sharpening + super sampling process like oldschool cheappo chinese interpolated cameras used to do? Would catch some ignorante casual costumers, and appeal to more enthusiast who when read that the camera is not really 20mpx, but only 10mpx, would be pleased.
G Davidson: Ouch, why the 18mp?! Keeping things in perspective might have made for a good camera, are consumers really so fooled into thinking this really measures resolution with such a minuscule sensor? Apparently so!
18mpx, ouch. Sony will NEVER learn.
Lame. Won´t buy. Next?
ericsan: What a boring new camera...such a long wait for a very basic product !!Will not wait for the upcoming & upgraded models...bye bye Canon, hello Panasonic/Olympus you will get my money for my needed backup mirrorless camera, your models are much more exciting,innovative...Cheers !!
Who needs APS-C, anyway? GF-5/PEN + pancake all the way.
Am Cam Guy: These comments are interesting but does anyone realize we are talking about a P&S pocket camera? If they built is with a viewfinder, a huge ccd, a hot shoe etc it would be an SLR and you would carry it in a case with a strap around your neck. I do a lot of traveling and carry my P&S in a small pouch on my belt. This makes it convenient to take it anywhere, even formal dinners. What I like is the low light performance because the places I visit rarely allow flash. While I'm not a professional I do want sharp, clear pictures in a pocket camera. This camera isn't for everyone but it is just fine for me.
Problem is, this is a P&S already in range of DSLR in PRICE. we expect more for such price level.
Sephirotic: i'm the only one that over the 10mpx mark doesn´t care anymore for more resolution, but only on actual pixel-dot size? Larger the better?
This camera has a pp of 1.6 microns. Roughly the same of a standard 10mpx P&S.
i'm the only one that finds ridiculous to see how all the companies are dropping the mpx race and rolling back their maximun resolutiom even on prosumer/enthusiast market to the 10~12mpx mark while sony alone keeps running alone increasing their resolution and sacrificing IQ at iso 400+? Look at the noise of this camera at ISO 800, is awfull.
Not alone i find ridiculous this posture of Sony, i see no point at all in this camera at this price point. i can have a larger sensor (4/3), virtually the same body size with much better overall IQ, specially at low light for a LOWER PRICE POINT (either pen, or gf3).
What's the point of this camera again? Another Sony camera im passing. Try decreasing your resolution next time and i may consider buying from you guys again
Just for curiosit and sake of comparison:
RX100 = around 1.88 microns by pixel (still need the official numbers)Regular 12mpx 1/2.3 P&S = 1.5 (virtually the same)S100 = 1.8S95 = 2.03J1/V1 = 3.8612mpx m4/3 = 4.2418.1mpx APS = 4.29Canon g1x = 4.16Canon G12 = 2.03Sony nex7 = 3.9Panasonic LX5 = 2.0
Of course, PSNR also takes in acoout current technology implementations, differenct manufactures of different generations have different performances. STILL MORE than 20%-30% increase in physical size of individual pixel can hardly be compensated by only enginering improvements in cameras from only 1 or 2 years apart. Specially this day and age where we have still new releases of cameras of different brands with 3yr old sony 12mpx sensors.
Even if this sony sensor is brand new, top notch enginerring, i can hardy believe it'll ouperform cameras with pp roughliy 30% larger. We still need more low-iso samples, tough. (no to mention the airy-disk issue at F4+ at such size