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David Hart: I have the DSC-HX30V and it is a mediocre to decent camera but an excellent video camera. I've taken high-def hand-held videos with it on a rigid-inflatable boat bouncing over the waves and the IS works wonders. Increasing the zoom range from 20x to 30x while keeping the same quality IS system would be quite cool, assuming Sony pulled it off.
On my last trip, I paired the HX30V with a Canon S95. The S95 was used for most of my photos, but the HX30V was used for zoom and videos. It was a lot lighter than carrying a huge zoom lens on my 40D and a video camera.
While most of the enthusiasts here won't like this camera, the HX30V has been very popular with everyday people who like to travel. I would expect the HX50V to be just as popular.
Hopefully HX50 improves image quality a bit? Guess we'll have to wait for the reviews. If only RX100 had all these features! That one gets crossed off my list for its lack of zoom.
mpgxsvcd: I am waiting for a company to just say the heck with it and come out with a camera with a 1/3" sensor and a 20-1000mm F8.0 lens. They know that the average consumers have no idea what the lens specs mean.
The only thing the average consumer knows are megapixels and 50x zoom and that is what Sony, Canon, and Nikon are giving them.
However, Panasonic and Olympus know that eventually people will realize that the most important thing in a small sensor camera is the lens because that can make up for the fact that the sensor is so much smaller and still has way too many megapixels.
This Sony DSC-HX50V has one of the slowest lenses I have ever seen on a really small sensor. Why in the world do people think that they need telescope focal lengths in a pocket camera?
What other compact super-zooms have faster lenses? They all have about this lens type, and this size sensor, as far as I know. There aren't many in this category however.
Why the hell can you download the orig. stills but not the video? Pretty dumb...
Parappaman: Sony likes this item.
Also, seeing Nikon's and Olympus' offerings in the lower-end of their enthusiast camera offerings, I realize how Canon's S100 is the camera that has aged better in the whole digital photography history. Being the best choice at its price range two years after its initial release is no small feat!
People tend to ignore the video aspect. Who wants 24fps as the only 1080 option? Yeah, no one.
I hope the video issues that I've seen on 7700 and P9000 series are fixed. AF/AE is totally unacceptable on those units.
Travolta: I don't get it. When will the successor to HX20V be announced? Have I missed it or will there not be a new one? Is the WX300 the successor?
I believe it is. It's called WX, has features of HX, but looks like RX. Go figure!
It does have a nice feature set tho...I don't think it lacks anything the HX30 had.
LiSkynden: Innovative design? What's with that? In my eyes it looks just another P&S camera.
But he's correct basically, and I'd say it's what most people think of when they hear "design". The camera *is* just some random P&S that happens to have a large sensor. I'd much rather have a "design" that is meant to be USED, with proper ergonomics and grippy surfaces, some buttons, etc. But this is Sony. Like most companies they're more interested in image and apple-copycating than actual proper, well thought-out human-usable design.
Very disappointed they left out the external mic. socket. Was almost set on this camera but without that, it can't really be considered a high-quality video camera in addition to still camera. Wait for NEX-8?
They listened to me! The addition of a small *power* zoom lens is a big step forward...
This is quite impressive, and I've been waiting for the P series to support 1080 video. The only downside to this camera is the small sensor size, but we'll have to see the image quality when reviews come in.
ILC's are fine but they don't have ergonomics like this. In fact they should! This thing looks like a mini-SLR. The other main thing is this will be actually POCKETABLE (large pocket). Only a pancake lens makes ILC's pocketable but it's simply too limiting. The desire to carry it in your pocket, if anything, means you're *more* likely to want zoom available. And this one finally has a big range.
And that's the problem with the other large sensor tiny cameras like the sony RX100. They have very little zoom. My current Sony has 4x and it's far too limiting, esp. for video. And of course the ridiculous ergonomics. It's not that there isn't room for more controls, they just don't want them. The P7700 has it all, it seems.
We need power zoom though for this to be a real video camera. Would have been easy with the new lens line...
Beckler8: I wonder if we can add another dial and some usable buttons too. I'm really tired of the 'apple effect' which is to put form entirely ahead of function. Funny how it's left to 3rd party companies now to make a camera even usable. Cameras are meant to be used by humans with 10 fingers--a smooth rectangular box with no features will never be ideal for that.
They might as well be, when they're all the same. Ever look at smartphones? Yeah, they're all iphone clones. Surely there is a better design...
I wonder if we can add another dial and some usable buttons too. I'm really tired of the 'apple effect' which is to put form entirely ahead of function. Funny how it's left to 3rd party companies now to make a camera even usable. Cameras are meant to be used by humans with 10 fingers--a smooth rectangular box with no features will never be ideal for that.
Re:TX200V The iphone copycat design with no thought of how humans are actually supposed to *grip* this thing, has gone too far. I have the TX7 which has a tiny handgrip, more buttons and not quite as smooth--even that is already not appropriate for humans. I'm sick of the apple phenomenon. They're a large bad influence on ergonomics IMO, and way overhyped for no reason.
The extra controls for vertical shooting aren't needed. Why is a rectangular sensor still being used? Switch to a square sensor and either crop later, or in-camera with viewfinder masks, or whenever. Square also obviously captures more of the image from the lens--info. that is lost for no reason. Any possible reason not to do this, other than a slightly bigger sensor? (Though not necessarily). I don't think so, other than lack of thought.