Equipment:Bodies: Olympus E-3, E300Lenses: 11-22mm / 50mm / 14-45mm / 40-150mm (rev. I)FL-36 flash4:3/OM adapterOM bodies: OM 4Ti, OM 4OM lenses: 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 135mm 3.5T32 flashPentax Optio 43wr (pretty much dead now)
BorisK1: Pelican Imaging's camera array is nothing like Lythro. If this technology is scalable (that is, if it's possible to build large camera arrays that cheaper than large sensors of comparable light-sensing area), it could lead to a completely new breed of cameras.
About the patent - why would a cellphone camera need an aperture? Closing it down will just lead to diffraction, smearing the image.
You might want to lookup diffraction limits for typical cellphone sensor sizes (1/3"), and typical lens apertures (f:3.5).Nokia's Pureview is a *massive* exception.
Micromegas777: I have 2 VF2 for my EP-3 cameras, but I rarely use them. The touch screen is enough for me, and I'm suspicious about tiltable screens as they easily break off.
"Can you find me ONE thread on this whole forum of complainers that describes a user who actually broke a flip screen from their camera"- Just search Olympus SLR forum for "split LCD" or "split screen". It was a known problem with E-3, mine had to go for service to fix it.
Pelican Imaging's camera array is nothing like Lythro. If this technology is scalable (that is, if it's possible to build large camera arrays that cheaper than large sensors of comparable light-sensing area), it could lead to a completely new breed of cameras.
PowerG9atBlackForest: I understand that the optical design (apart from the mount) will be identical for both APS-C and m4/3rd, for obvious reasons. Given that and regarding the larger picture circle APS-C and the desire for a telecentrical design for m4/3rd, I doubt wether the design can be optimal for m4/3rd. Not to mention that there already exists an excellent dedicated m4/3rd 60 mm lense (or two).
The (near) telecentricity requirement was purely a 4/3 thing, It's dropped from m4/3rd.
Stacey_K: I find it comical when a camera system has a slew of amazing zooms, people complain "where are the primes? All I want are prime lenses." So them a camera system comes out with a bunch of nice primes and people bitch "We want zooms" lol
Some people will complain about a bicycle without a seat. Others will whine about one that's missing pedals.
sosmix: There is something wrong with people who enjoy killing animals. If you want to shoot animals, do it with a camera.
I for one will not be buying Nikon in the future and any wildlife photographer should consider Nikon's position on this issue very seriously.
Some primates are omnivorous, some vegetarians. I happened to belong to the former kind, and don't mind at all. To all you wishihg to join your leaf-eating bretheren, I say this:Oook! Ook ook OOK!
bobbarber: To all the people justifying hunters as saving wild animals in Africa:
Legal hunting justifies poaching. The reason is that animal products are marketed (as are hunting trips), and as long as legal hunting exists, poached products can be sold as legal.
"Instead, allowing many tonnes of ivory to enter the marketplace with CITES’s blessing has served only to boost the illegal trade, confusing consumers as to whether ivory is legal or illegal."
So while the local view may be that "elephants are overpopulated in such and such an area; it's OK to hunt them", that will actually serve to INCREASE poaching, not decrease it. People will just forge paperwork for illegally killed elephants.
It's the same with lions or any other animal. If you can hunt them legally somewhere, then hunts are being sold illegally elsewhere, and the paperwork forged afterwards.
Not "justifies". Enables, or makes easier.Than again, pretty much anything you do legally, enables an illegal activity. It's like saying that home ownership justifies burglaries.
Yeah, $199. Plus the $36 activation fee.Why does everybody fixate on the initial price?You're buying into a 2 years contract (at least $40 *per month*) plus a mandatory smartphone data plan (another $20 *per month*). Plus all the little "whoops" additional fees and charges, like $.50 if you happened to send or receive a text message across the Detroit river.
What happens when the contract is up and the cost of the "subsidised" phone is paid 3-4 times over? Whoppie - you get a choice: Keep paying the same fees every month or cancel the contract. Or pay another $199 to get a newer model "subsidised" phone.
But the good news is, the 2-year contract is a perfect match for the phone's 1-year manufacturer's warranty. Isn't it?
peevee1: The lens is too dark to use indoors, in your hotel room, in a restaurant, in an evening concert... 3 fps only also preclude the use of it for any kind of action shots. And no GPS. And $300 is not even that cheap.
Seriously, do yourself a favor and buy Olympus TG-1, Olympus TG-2 or Pentax WG-3 GPS instead. Don't encourage the companies who make inferior products.
Don't know if it's NR, stabilization, or sharpening, but with TG-1, foliage can look smeared in some shots.
The only two things I really dislike about my TG-1 are the AF hunting/clicking in videos and the inability to force open aperture in broad daylight. I'm pretty much happy about everything else.
TG-2 has an A-mode that gives control of the aperture. The other issue was more of a idespread defect (that Olympus won't fix).
So I'd say, if you're looking for a toughcam, TG-2 is a pretty good choice today.
If video is a priority though, look at Panasonic or wait for detailed reviews.
Oh, and if most of your shots are at the far end of the zoom, TG-2 is not necessarily the best choice, either.
Other than that, I can certainly recommend the olympus.
DavidsfotosDotCom: Why doesn't anybody make a "rugged" camera with raw capture? (f2, Macro leds & GPS like the Pentex)? The first company that does will get lots of business. 20mm to 100mm range is better!Or maybe it's not f2 because it has water proof ports for $777.77 underwater strobes which weigh 5 times more than the camera! A water tempature & depth loger which some cameras have would be nice. An underwater housing costs $200+ & quadruples the weight so The target price range to bet is $450 to $600 which allows for all the right stuff above. Their designers wheel of chance need more pie shaped wedges with ALL these features to land on!Which underwater 10 meter has the bigest sensor?
Well, that's the only theory I can come up with to explain why none of toughcam brands include RAW capture. There are at least six major companies (Px, F, O, Pn, C, N), I probably forgot others - and all are unanimous in this.
Oh, and about 12 vs 16 MP: With similar sensor tech, a 16 MP image downsized to 12 MP by PC-level software, will have less noise, more DR, and more resolution than a direct 12 MP capture.
Pentax WG-3 and Olympus TG-2 have some differences. For instance, Pentax lets you control contrast, saturation, sharpness, and has manual, infinity, and hyperfocal focusing. The Oly, OTH, has aperture-priority mode.
HowaboutRAW: A diver who uses it with external strobes isn't going to need pocketability, and an extra $200 won't make a dent in the budget.The cost of supporting RAW, as I've said before. includes things like training P&S tech support and warranty people to deal with the RAW issues. Plus bad publicity from people who see ugly unprocessed output.And again: This is just my theory of what the marketing people mioght be thinking when exluding RAW.
> Why doesn't anybody make a "rugged" camera with raw capture?Most likely, they did the numbers and decided it wasn't to their advantage.> (f2, Macro leds & GPS like the Pentex)? The first company that does will get lots of business. Most likely, they predicted that the additional sales won't offset the additional expence (RAW feature by itself is basically free, but supporting it isn't).> 20mm to 100mm range is better!But it would require a larger or slower lens.[...]> An underwater housing costs $200+ & quadruples the weightIs weight important to a diver?
> The target price range to bet is $450 to $600 which allows for all the right stuff above.For that $$$ you can get a decent compact (faster lens, larger sensor) in a waterproof case - which can go to 40m.
> Which underwater 10 meter has the bigest sensor?All current rugged cams use 1/2.3 or smaller sensors.
to peevee1:If a photographer already has RAW-based workflow, it's a lot easier to use cameras that shoot in RAW.
peevee1: f/3.9? Fail.Still Oly and Pentax only.
> 2 stop not 1.5 stopI was referring to the Panasonic FT5. Its lens starts at F3.3.
Artistico: Lovely design, and I can see the rationale behind the not so fast lens as they want the entire zoom action to take place without the lens protruding beyond the thickness of the body, making their waterproofing and shockproofing that much easier to engineer. I think I'd have preferred less of a zoom combined with larger max apertures, though.
Also, underwater, going wider than 28mm equivalent would have been nice. Also 6 megapixels would have given way better photos at that sensor size, which Fuji knows well, but people still want their megapixel count up...
Check out Pentax WG-3 and Olympus TG-2. Both are waterproof, both start at F:2.0 25mm equivalent. The lenses do not protrude. They do have slightly less zoom - 4x instead of 5x.
Look at the lens specs. Compared to Pentax WG-3 and Olympus TG-2, you'd be missing one and a half stops of light. That makes a huge difference whenever you're in less-than-broad daylight conditions.
miniTO: Interesting... However the x100s seems to be a far more attractive camera.
Especially when you consider this thing with a OVF is 1500+. Then add in the slower (f2.8 vs f2) lens the only reason to go with this is if you really like 28 vs 35 equivalent.
Fuji sells WCL-X100 - a wide-angle converter that makes the X 100 into a 28mm equivalent:http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=861781&Q=&is=REG&A=details