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I'm a DSLR guy through and through and I use FF, APS-H and APS-C with some very fast glass, but I still find this E-M5 and exciting product and I will getting one to partner my 5D III that's for sure. I already own some wonderful old Zuiko glass, so I'll be able to use it on my Canon and Oly now. The reasons I'm going for the E-M5 over NEX 7 are: IBIS of Oly, much faster AF, IQ seems like it'll be fine to at least ISO 3200, much better array of lenses, it's not a Sony.
Does anybody know if Oly are releasing an underwater housing or any third party bodies announced?
Great write up, many thanks.
With the new pricing, LR4 will be a hard act to follow for competitors (are you listening Phase One). I'll be upgrading ASAP. Now please cut the PS price in half :D
AbrasiveReducer: Geesh. These guys need better lawyers. Over here, we pay top management huge sums to just go away when they lose a lot of money.
The chances of a good legal system in the US are far less than a good political or health system or probably even gun control.
Main issue seems to be a poor lens. I can't believe this will be representative of the lens in general. Like it was hsot through vaseline. Noise is clearly competitive with APS-C and m4/3. I'm downloading my own samples to process. Oops ACR 6.6 doesn't support the G1X. Is there a 6.7 beta?
thx1138: Sorry it's ridiculous to think IBIS system can cope with a supertele lens like this. IBIS does not stabilise the VF image and with a 500mm on a crop sensor the image will be bouncing all over the place. if you've never used a supertele you will be shocked. Now add a 2x TC and try it! This should have had IS built into the lens; no way a sensor will be able to be shifted enough to counter the extreme shake of such long FL. Oh that's right Sony doesn't have such a thing.
Did I say IBIS doesn't work. It's good to see at least Martinka got it. I'm talking about IBIS can't stabilise the VF image at all, not that it won't stabilise the final shot. Again you are not serious if you think not having a stabilised VF with a supertele is not important.
Sorry it's ridiculous to think IBIS system can cope with a supertele lens like this. IBIS does not stabilise the VF image and with a 500mm on a crop sensor the image will be bouncing all over the place. if you've never used a supertele you will be shocked. Now add a 2x TC and try it! This should have had IS built into the lens; no way a sensor will be able to be shifted enough to counter the extreme shake of such long FL. Oh that's right Sony doesn't have such a thing.
So what exactly is being released this year? It looks like late 2012 or 2013 before we see anything. If so that's just absurd. They should already have 5-6 new lenses being gradually released this year alone.
I quite like the styling. Wish LCD were tilt and swivel. Price is better than was rumored at $999 body only, not $1200. AF sounds good and this is where Sony fails big time. I would have gone with NEX 7 but AF is not in same league as Panasonic and Olympus and this sounds best yet.
Ok I just need Samsung to announce NX20 and I can decide which ship to jump on.
spoorthy: wouldnt removing a AA filter make a camera cheaper? did they just put the extra price because they could or cause it actually is more expensive
Think of the Mercedes black series, with lots of stuff removed, but more hp and a lot dearer. It costs to be exclusive.
CraigHarris: Why didn't they just put IS on the 24-70? it would render both those primes pointless and would justify the otherwise insane price tag on the new glass ... I'm utterly disappointed. Having to buy a 24-105 f/4 just to get a sensible zoom with IS is really annoying.
Well you now the choice of the Tamron 24-70 VC. Given how well my 28-75 f/2.8 performed, I know which one of these new 24-70's I'll be buying and no doubt for a lot less than $2300.
Tokina grew out of a group that left Nikon, so it's understandable they have good lenses. What they have lacked is USM and now they appear to be not only addressing that, but delivering IS as well. This will be a great lens no doubt, but I'd mainly expect Nikon users to buy it, unless it is almost as good and a lot cheaper than the canon 70-200 f/4L IS,which is a sensational zoom.
Given Mr Fletcher's normally very high quality landscape shots, I'm not what this crap is supposed to tell me?
To make any impact these new lenses will need to 2 stops faster across the entire FL range than the current rubbish. We currently have shallowest DOF of ~ f/10 FF equivalent. So even 2 stops will still leave us f/5 FF equivalent, but that's not too bad. I'd hope they release a prime or two that are 3 stops faster too.
Wow what a waste of 12MP. 6MP would be more than sufficient for this class of camera. Can't wait for next years 24MP model.
I guess next we'll have the lawyers justifying their $100 per page photocopy fees. Anyway if you get married you deserve to be ripped off even if you aren't being ripped off. The most moronic waste of money I've ever seen.
The P&S camera market is under siege from the phone cameras and yet although this offers a novel feature it's still a tiny sensor offering not much improvement over the 1/4" sensors. Time to move this class of camera up to the 1/1.8"-1/1.5" sensors while the advanced P&S move to 2/3" or larger. No use complaining that it'll make it bigger, as people aren't buying this class of camera anyway. The likes of the LX-5, XZ-1 etc aren't that much larger at all anyway.
worldcup1982: please not with the crap panasonic sensor....
At the pixel levell Sony 24MP sensor is still better than panasonic and when equalised to 16MP it's a lot better, at least at high ISO. I'd say 1 stop at a minimum.
I'd prefer Sony to make the sensor for OM-D, rather than use old panasonic sensor. Sure it's a good sensor, but for the flagship OM-D, it deserves the best available, not the best panasonic are willing to give them.
onlooker: For a second my heart skipped a beat. Then reality set in.
Of course there will not be a mirrorless FF by Olympus, at least not for many years. Sony might be the first.
Jogger: not sure why people are complaining about the OVF, AF speed, etc, etc
this is basically a large sensor G12 which never had fast AF, good OVF, etc, etc.. if the G12 is still selling well, then this will do even better. apparently, only canon understands that.
G3 + 14-42 = $579 at B&H. How is that $50 dearer than the MSRP of G1X of $799?
Well I'm a Canon DLSR user and the lack of a quality OVF or EVF is a big turn off. They should have made an optional EVF and I wouldn't hesitate to buy one. As it is I may still, but G3 is a whole lot of camera for the money and I can put a nice fast lens on when needed like the 20 f/1.7 and still be very compact.
Josh152: The fact that the biggest complaints people have about this camera are it's aesthetics, it not breaking the laws of physics to be the perfect camera, and it not having some pet feature they wanted is a testament to how great of a camera design the G1 X really is.
Time will tell if it really is as good as it looks on paper but baring any unforeseen major problems with it, the G1 X will be a huge success for canon and a game changer for the rest of the high end compact market.
I've warmed to it, and what would have made it perfect would be
an optional add-on EVF. I'll definitely give one a try and hopefully the crappy OVF isn't too painful to use, as I despise composing via LCD unless warranted.