Everlast66: Sony A6000 looks way better than any of these two and is at the end of its life-cycle waiting to be replaced.
if your eyes think the A6000 looks way better I suggest picking up another hobby quickly that doesn't involve eyesight.
Cheng Bao: what's the phenomena of these: http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/3207741/dan_acr_iso200_f4?inalbum=fujifilm-xf-16mm-f-1-4-r-wr-samples-galleryhttp://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/3207208/dan_acr_iso200_f5-6?inalbum=fujifilm-xf-16mm-f-1-4-r-wr-samples-galleryhttp://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/3207742/dan_acr_iso200_f9?inalbum=fujifilm-xf-16mm-f-1-4-r-wr-samples-gallery
where orange lines against blue sky, I can see orange colored "halo" around lines.Astigmatism?
definitely not jpg artifacts.. I'd assume it's adobe raw not handling xtrans well.
noflashplease: I can't imagine anyone buying a new Canon Rebel on the basis of these photos. For some reason, I'm seeing soft images, so I don't know if it's a lens issue, or a focus issue? The dynamic range and noise are also horrific for 2015.
except with the Rebel you have the 10-18, 18-55, 18-135mm, 55-250mm IS STM lenses and 24,40mm pacakes all are cheap, light, and very reasonable optical performance.
going UWA zoom alone on the A6000 versus the rebel changes the economic scales.
and PS .. most people don't use primes.
the largest tiny house in existence!
very cool shot.
rrccad: nice lenses, pity they don't have rear filters, like most do or should in this class of focal length.
front filter to this kind of blows any size advantage of the format though.as I believe you'd have to go quite large for the wide FOV on the 7-14 and it would be impossible on the fisheye
nice lenses, pity they don't have rear filters, like most do or should in this class of focal length.
saiko: Looks like Yongnuo forced Canon to upgrade their shoddy EF 50mm f/1.8 II lens by giving a similar lens (better in some aspect like 7 vs 5 aperture blade) for less than half the price...
Canon users should thank Yongnuo.
IMO it's more because it was just so damned hard to support the only lens that canon still makes that relies on a micro motor versus USM / STM.
Yongnuo released their 50mm late last year, it takes years to roll out a new lens.
do the math.
this isn't a dpreviewer creating the lens in their mom's basement, they have factories to switch, employee's to train, packaging, translations, legal, support manuals, etc you name it to roll out a global product.
the Yen to USD conversion has more to do with the price in the states than anything.
Lawrencew: Once again Canon is ripping us off in the UK
Whilst in the USA the price of the new STM is pretty much the same as the original lens - $129 vs $125 (Amazon, BH)
In the UK however, the new STM is £130, whilst the original is only £75 on Amazon et al - both including taxes.
So for us in the UK, Canon haven't introduced a replacement at the same price, but taken the opportunity to nearly *double* the price...
So there is no "Wow. Just wow. Thank you, Canon. And that price? Again, wow." as MikeFairbanks posted earlier. Just the opposite...
live in a country that doesn't have such crazy and insane consumer protection laws, sales and import taxes then.
MSRP's are usually set at the max and then will float down over time, also with smaller volume there's less discounting.
ie: canon uk sets the uk price, canon usa sets the usa price,etc,etc..
Yongnuo has nothing to do with it.
CaMeRa QuEsT: Priced same as the old all plastic body nifty fifty, it's really a no brainer here. STM, metal mount, 7 blade iris, much higher quality finish, same MFT charts, what's to hate? Oh yeah: the fact that it just made my very own 1 year old plastic nifty fifty worth absolutely nothing! Way to go Yongnuo! I have only you to thank for evaporating my hard earned eighty bucks! People, let's not kid ouselves: Yongnuo is the only reason why Canon is so gracious to gift us with such a high quality new lens at the same price as the now very shitty looking EF 50mm f/1.8 II.
small little point to ponder - it takes years to take a lens from design, change manufacturering lines and roll it out - especially a lens like the 50mm 1.8 that sells in boatloads (it's habitally the top selling lens on amazon across all regions .. anywhere on the planet).
so yeah .. since you know so much .. care to explain how canon could take it to production in less than 4 months? or even care about yuongo?
LukeDuciel: is it me or D810 does look very similar in terms of detail resolution vs. 5DsR?
I am staring at the green faux feature stuff at ISO100.
if this is true, then ... thinking about the price D810 would be at when 5DsR actually hits the stores.
the only thing that I ever found wrong with the 85 1.8 is the wide open PF that you get from that lens in high constrast areas is horrendous, and the MFD is pretty long.
even at f5.6 you still see some PF in high contrast zones.
now when DLO supports the 5dRs .. PF will be completely gone.
Elliot H: with the huge sales decline of dslrs alone, this is not thetime to relax quality control
who says they relaxed it?
jrkliny: This explanation is obviously incomplete. If only a few cameras were affected, why is Canon still working on a "solution"? I suspect the problem has not been fixed. I also suspect that this problem developed after manufacturing and QC checks were completed. Until Canon has a complete explanation and "solution" I would not trust any of these cameras. If I owned one, I would return it and certainly not exchange it for another unit which might also be defective or develop the defect at a later date. I would return it even if the defect was not yet noticeable.
looking at your posting history - sounds like you have an axe to grind on this issue or something.
Akpinxit: First - bravo to Canon for managing to squeeze 50MP on to FF sensor .Second , end of ISO noise issues - with such huge detail scale , you can fix any noise level and still keep all of fine structures .
canon stated it was a home grown sensor. no sony involved.
Michael S.: Canon does show a bit more details/resolution at iso100 than the D810, but less than the 645Z.
And at iso800 - holy cow! The Canon files disintegrates already...so much green/red patterns already at this quite "low" iso! Take a look in the studio comparion around the coins! Cleary looses even to the D810 already.
well let's see the 645Z is using a $4500 USD macro lens.the 5DSR is using a $350 85mm cheap prime lens.
I would HOPE the 645 resolves more.
JustSee: And the key question is: which lens has been used?
the 85mm and 100mm non L's have always been hidden gems.
Mssimo: Im willing to bet we will have a autofocus crisis when this camera hits the market. This is the beginning of the end of phase detection auto-focus and one of the last popular DSLRs before the big decline. Mirrorless is going to hit strong and hard, only obstacle they still have is subject tracking and lens selection. Auto focus accuracy, single shot AF speed, image quality, shutter speed, HUGE viewfinders, and tons of momentum. I will miss SLR but im excited to see the biggest change in photography since analog to digital.
not really .. canon's already looked at combining / fine tuning AF with PDAF and on sensor detection. phase detect off chip still has alot of life - not to mention it can be tailored better for low light, and also major defocus events, and I'm sure nikon is looking at it too.
also off sensor AF has the advantage to use diagonal AF sensors. something on sensor .. obviously can't.
armandino: Wow Phase One is wild.Working on both the 5Dr file and D810 at 100 iso the Canon shows to me a clear advantage on resolution/moire, not quite the same DR. Sort of expected. Said that ,+2 stop and +100% shadows is all I would really need and the 5D does no bad at all. Both are mazing tools and would be pleased with any. I think I rather have the extra resolution and less moire over the added DR for my work. But that is personal choice.
considering that's also using one of canon's cheapest ff lenses - not bad at all.
once DPP supports the 5DRs and you can run it through DLO that will correct alot of the lens issues that are even slightly visible on the test image. it will also "pop" the canon one more correctly for the slight CA that is present.
bmwzimmer: Hey DPreview, In the test scenes, Why are you using a cheap $350 85mm f/1.8 lens from 1992 on the 5DSR which is originally designed for Film?????? Can't you use a slightly better lens from say...this Decade?? The Contrast, sharpness and CA are horrendous...
The Nikon D810 is mounted on the $1600 Nikkor 85mm 1.4G from 2010 which is one of Nikon's very best Prime Lens according to DXO mark and easily capable of resolving very High Megapixels...
RIDICULOUS GUYS, PLEASE USE A SLIGHTLY BETTER LENS PLEASE
what's amazing is that the 85mm does that well. without even using DLO against it. but really, it can't resolve as well as it needs to.