rrccad: Personally I think Nikon got it right.
If the goal of MILC is to provide a small travel / working kit with reasonable image quality, then over time, the Nikon 1 will do it better than certainly APS-C and full frame sensored kit - which will be burdened down by it's much larger almost DSLR sized lenses (for normal and above focals)
the Nikon 1 system system will produce the smallest kit of any of the MILC's - and for most cases, the performance and quality outside of a few raging camera geeks is more than good enough.
@bobbarber my daughter has a 3 year old and loves her nikon 1.
small, light, and keeps up with a 3 year old.
most non raging camera geeks also know at that times "good enough" wins out - especially when you have a will rounded kit for minimal weight.
no other APS-C or FF and even m43 is less able system is able to do that.
didn't read did you madmax.
it's also SRP .. don't get your panties in a knot.
Northgrove: I can't really imagine that this new 70-300 lens will warrant the price difference compared to an (nowadays ultra cheap) APS-C 70-300mm lens with the FT1 adapter.
i guess your imagination stopped at size and weight right? it's over an inch shorter, 1/4 lb lighter. not to mention FT1 + current street price isn't that much different than this.
also has better coatings and more exotic elements.
Personally I think Nikon got it right.
rrccad: well if they fix the stupid compression sony may just have me as a customer for a pair of A7R's.
there's been numerous threads in the sony forum, samples on diglloyd's site, and so on and so forth. Given the known weaknesses of the compression algorithm - it's just really easy to break.
@mick232 - my mistake - A900.
I'm leaning to a A7 (since i'll be removing the hot filter anyways, it's reflections should not have an impact) but i have to admit part of me wants the A7R i just don't know if i need the extra. Regardless, I tend to push and pull RAW's a great degree, which this compression isn't really suitable for. I'm eagerly awaiting this firmware and hoping it corrects what seems to be an oversight for cameras that are being promoted as delivering ultimate IQ.
Leandros S: Is this the first time that an *announcement* of a FW update has been syndicated, rather than its actual availability? Will this get reported twice now, or what? Recent Pentax FW updates did not get a mention...
canon has press released future major firmware updates ie: the 7D, 5D Mark II, 5D Mark III and 1Dx firmware updates.
FUD? sounds like you are trying to make excuses, mick232. like i said if you could read. i'll buy a pair of A7R's if they fix it. I'm hoping they do.
fixing the compression is an easy fix via firmware for Sony to do since it already exists on other sony bodies. funny you mention the A99 .. which has the option to save in a non-lossy format. normalizing each channel of the bayer sensor down to 1770 unique values per image doesn't do anyone any good.
RAW's should be somewhat future proofed - people like you are letting sony off the hook for bad algorithms.
HowaboutRAW: Would be nice if Sony allowed for the recording of uncompressed raws, that should be easy.
Harder: make the shutter quieter under at least some circumstances.
I bracket :p
geesbert: Where is tethering by cable?Where is display switching by function button?Where is the option to single press for live view enlargement?Where is the uncompressed RAW option?
it really is a shame how Sony ignores the possibility of making that the ultimate studio camera.
but smooth reflection seems to be high on everey user's wishlist.
easy. when looking at a compressed NEF i don't see nikon normalizing the unique data values down to 1770 per each color channel.
@brendon1000 .. that's a nikon example which is entirely different than the kludge sony uses to create a compressed lossy raw file.
i don't get why some are so defending the lack of this option.. it simply makes a good camera better. considering it already exists on the A77 and A99 - you'd think it would not be a big deal.
maybe if less people apologized for sony's firmware, maybe sony would do more.
i'm thinking more the A7R.
however i would sacrifice speed for non-lossy raw files.
Paul1974: This is just to keep the firmware-update trolls from trolling. Even though there really isn't anything that needs to be adressed by these updates, people will simply feel better when there is one. It's like mirrors, you don't really need them but some photographers cling to them.
@Paul1974. yes because your posts are so constructive and useful.
seems like it would be easy .. of course it would slow down already slow cameras, but i would rather have uncompressed.
secondly give me the option to remove the other raw cooking while they are at it.
yes there is .. namely give the A7(R) the same option as the A77 and A99 far as compression being lossy or lossless.
well if they fix the stupid compression sony may just have me as a customer for a pair of A7R's.
Henry M. Hertz: another lame interview....
i don´t know why the interviewers never ask the questions that come up on every forum.
as only one example... why not asking why canon is still using 7 year old sensor manufacturing? a 500nm process.they improve sensors... well not as much as others do.
the 18MP sensor get´s a bit long in the tooth even with dual pixel AF.
the 1DX sensor is fantastic and it´s a wonder canon can do this with a process that is at least 3 steps behind sonys manufacturing process.
still the question is when will canon update to the same manufacturing process as, for example, sony?
canon builds the best overall DSLR´s. i love my 1D X.but the real question is .... when will canon improve sensor perfomance?with improved DR and low read noise of current sony sensors canon would be unbeatable.
and do you know definitively that the 70D sensor is using the 500nm process?
i'd love to see a copy of the chipworks pdf if you have done so, i'm curious, but not so curious to spend money to find out. i assume you know for a fact though.
dg90: It´s a camera to knock out a gorilla and making some close-ups.
No chance with a MILC ... a gorilla will drink it in one second!
yeah except peevee that the sony is only writing out half the data if that. where most of the cameras listed above output it all without the mash up that sony does it it's "RAW"'s .. which i'm wondering if they should be even called raw files.
ThomasSwitzerland: I am still a loyal customer of Nikon. But this uninspiring D4s confirms my move. Step by step I get rid of those old world huge cameras. They seem to me like dinosaurs from the past.
I do not want to bash because I believe in Nikon’s excellent sensors’ computer code and ergonomics. I also had the Canon FF cameras with L-lenses. I sold them at very good prices some time ago. I questioned more and more to hike in the mountains with those “tons” of black cases with a huge backpack limiting moves and fun.
Now I still got the D5200 – pros will smile – and mirrorless; and wait for the next generation of cellphone/integrated cameras to migrate to. It’s like with the stock markets. Buy early and sell into the last waves.
In a couple of years, no one can imagine that we took photos with those huge, heavy, and strange looking cameras.
Sometimes it is decision point to liberate. Less load is more joy. More joy and dedication produce better pictures.
sure .. and strapping a 400/2.8 onto to that that D5200 is really going to make a vast difference in weight o.O
RStyga: A new brick on the block. I can't see this DSLR having much marketing success outside the professional photographer's community.
Nice to see them finally admit to the problem and step up to the plate.