peevee1: Saying that Nikon is not under obligation to maintain compatibility with 3rd party products is beside the point. Yes, they are not. In the same way as Microsoft is not under obligation to maintain compatibility with 3rd-party applications when they release a new version of Windows. They are not "under obligation" (hell, they are not under obligation to even stay in business), but breaking compatibility hurts their customers and reduces value of their own product (D5300 in that case) - and hurting your own customers is not a great way to stay in business.
do you realize how many apps broke with vista? or windows 7? or windows 8?
very poor analogy.
Ken Johnes: 500 $ for a silly firmware upgrade? and the target audiance for this camera have been waiting eagerly for this AF upgrade . wow, greed and trying to milk it´s customers with incremental upgrade are gonna hurt the big dogs here, both of em, look at what nikon is trying to do.
i think nikon and canon are competing with each other on how to sell less for more, while other companies are making innovative products at a fair price , no wonder these greedy top dogs have to make up for their loss with such silly act..
well guess what ken, the C100 without the upgrade works just fine.but if you want to upgrade - canon's expecting you to purchase it.
the difference is............... what exactly?
lol ken .. have you never paid for a software upgrade in your entire life?
not to mention what we don't know if the main board needs to be replaced with this upgrade. or how much calibration. from the read ups on how the DPAF was set up with the 70D there was a significant amount of calibration work.
MrTaikitso: In a first for me, (been on DPreview for years), am going to knock this review: 1) I had been waiting for the 70D to consider against a GX7 or equiv Nikon or Sony APS-C to use for video and prosumer stills photography. 2) Finally got to play with one in a UK store. Although the new auto focus system and the articulating display are effective, I found the build quality to feel rough and plasticy in contrast to other lesser priced cameras (Pentax included), the ergonomics were awful (had to use two hands in a convoluted fashion to make an adjustment to the ISO) and the video does not shoot at 50/60fps - priceless for freeze framing, as I could do on my Sony NEX 5R. Further & most important: 3), other users and blog reviews conclude that the 70D image quality is nothing special.
What bothers me is that this DPreview fails to mention the mediocre IQ and praises the ergonomics. A direct contrast to my own experience and that of others.
if it takes you two hands to change the ISO on the 70D .. then obviously a DSLR isn't for you.
Rbrt: Why have so few camera makers moved to USB 3.0? There must be either a technical or cost factor. Anybody?
requires more power, cables are a shorter length, plugs are finicky are my personal gripes on usb 3.0
plevyadophy: Manual Exposure, Auto ISO, and Exposure Compensation and .... wait for it .............. ALL AT THE SAME TIME!!!!
Why the hell such an obvious feature wasn't put in the camera from the get-go is anyone's guess, but at least they did it in the end.
It seems the arrogance of Canon and Nikon is on the wane now that they are getting stiff competition from Oly, Panny, Sony and Fuji. So no more leaving off obvious features and having the damn cheek to expect us to buy a new multi-thousand dollar kit just to get the added features in the firmware!!
Previously, the likes of Canon and Nikon would never ADD features to a camera; they would only correct bugs in existing features.
Isn't competition just a wonderful thing?!!! :-)
Now, for me, they have made this camera worth buying.
i guess you missed significant firmware upgrades for the 5d Mark II, 7D and 5d Mark III, 1Dx (prior) or even the 1DC prior.
@bronxbombers4 - cost and complexity.
ManuelVilardeMacedo: It is ridiculous that some blame the test for the poor OVF AF results!As for me, Canon can include their 'dual pixel' autofocus system among its least of Most Relevant Innovations. People should congratulate the ones who developed this technology, as it's definitely an advance for photography....Still it puzzles me to see manual focus works even better than 'dual pixel'. One would be forgiven to ask why they bothered inventing autofocus at all.
well the test was invalid if the lens wasn't microadjusted first.
however it's no surprise that manual focus can yield a greater precision. any phase detect will focus down to a calculated level of precision.
EGARA61: I have owned different Nikon cameras for years: F801s, F80, F100, D70, D200, D600 and several compact. The D600 is a camera haughtiness but with an obvious manufacturing flaw: Abnormal dirt sensor. Nikon's way of responding to this problem is a shame. I'll never buy again a camera of this brand!
Nikon never admitted they had a problem with the D600. and still don't admit to a problem. they simply suggest that the D600 like any other camera collects random dust.
it wasn't a service advisory - it was a copout.
Eyeglass10101: Before all the Nikon haters (aka Canon shooters) start bashing Nikon for quickly implementing a D600 replacement due to the oil issue, please don't forget your own recent flop/hand irritant/chemically unstable, Canon t4i. Remember that one? Or do you just remember the t5i?
let's see .. insurance on shipping a $2000 camera alone is more than $12.00 .. and i'd REALLY love to see what domestic shipping you would send your body to for $12 for service.
and this was to your first sentence, perhaps it wasn't clear - it was in english.
let's look at this: canon provides shipping there and back for recalls. publically admits to the problem and apologies to their customer base.
Nikon doesn't provide full shipping ( even though at times peopl have sent in their bodies .. 3 or 4 times .. !!) for remediation, doesnt' even admit that the problem is theirs. and certainly doesn't apologize to their customer base.
And you accuse me of being the fraud.. OH THE IRONY..
@spectro .. considering that canon provided a way to check your serial number, provided free shipping and correction of the issue. and certainly acknowledged it. do you NOT think that nikon and the industry would better served if nikon did the same? Sounds like you are trying to defend niikon from basically screwing over loyal customers.
good on you Sir.
you mean the t4i that canon publically announced recall / support for the problem and actually apologized to their customers about?
yes great example - canon actually admitting to the problem. offering free service to correct it and actually stating .. and I quote: "We take pride in the quality and performance of our products, and apologize for any inconvenience. We offer our sincerest apologies to any customers who may be inconvenienced."
it's a shame Nikon doesn't have any pride nor consideration for their customers.
I'm wondering if this misses the mark really.
While superior performance is required with today's sensors (and tomorrows) it's rarely required for a full frame corner to corner wide open approach at this focal and also this aperture. most treasured lenses in this focal length were anything but treasured for their sharpness - but more for their rendering and bokah.
to placate the masses that are measurabators this certainly will do well. it will probably also be the "new standard" for sensor resolution testing,etc.
that all being said, i'll certainly look forward to the APO 35/21/24 that Zeiss may create for this line - because if the performance is matched, then the ultimate landscape lenses are certainly with this line.
Jogger: Most people are missing the long-term picture. Today's FF optics are not even resolving the 36mp of the Nikon D800... in 10 years, we will have 80mp FF DSLRs; there will definitely a need for these types of lens in the long run.
With Otus, Zeiss is setting themselves up to be the premium choice once 36+ mp become the norm (sooner, than later).
still not really required, since the format (35mm) and DOF constraints with your final output will limit what effective Mp's you get out of your image anyways. more Mp's will simply make your images look better, you won't get 80Mp's out of a 80Mps sensor, and nor would most humans struggle under that. which is why in real life you rarely see much difference between a 22mp 5d and a 36mp d800.
if this was a 21mm re-do of the infamous distagon - then it would be worth needing a box of kleenex for - but a 55/1.4 lens?
also if you are that concerned about resolving down to a 80Mp sensor - manual focus and the plane of focus at 1.4 becomes mere fractions of a inch - not that suitable to manual focus. Manual focus worked well when the DOF and circle of confusion was a more relaxed measure to what looked in focus on a 8x12 final print. certainly not at the per pixel level of a high demanding sensor and digital workflow
Naveed Akhtar: Why they are hitting the extreme ends .. why only 2MP .. hmm ok for austrobut couldn't they produce something like 8MP (4k native video) .. which can be combined on demand like Fuji is doing for ages .. to produce even lower noise when needed; and possibly a HDR mode too for HD recording. They can deploy the same high quality (lower noise) underlying assembly in that too! or not?
well considering it's running around 1M ISO .. i'd say they were interested in low light applications more than photography.
zodiacfml: that looks hideous...i was expecting a pair of those beside each eye.
bahaha.. now that would have been cool
this would be a fascinating advancement for astro work. as so many image stackers would take a 30 or 24fps stream and stack the images to improve contrast,etc. usually this is limited to planetary .. but the sensitivity of this is impressive.
that's roughly the same as -8 EV or around f1.4 for 8M exposure at ISO 100. or around 1/30th of a second f1.4 at 819200 ISO for video work.
Henry M. Hertz: you don´t need a long preview for this camera two words sum it up...
i would never pay more then 500 euro for a m43 camera.for me m43 will always be only a "second" camera.and as most m43 user i only have a kit lens for my E-PL3.yes most m43 buyer, as statistcis show, have only a kit lens.we speak about the majority here not some enthusiasts.
the real money goes to my much more versatile (yes it IS bigger and heavyer... i don´t care) DSLR system.
that´s why i doubt this will be a big financial success for oly.it´s a good camera.. sure.
you missed the point .. that would be the only time you'd actually use the full buffer over 5 seconds.
have a 50+ shot buffer isn't necessary unless you are shooting with slow speed cards or the firmware is horribad that doesn't allow for card writing to happen in parallel to flush from the buffers.
@bluevellet if you are shooting off 5 second 10fps bursts with an ancient card so it doesn't clear off at the same time for kid shots .. perhaps any camera isn't suitable for you, and a course would be.
beenthere: Are you listening Nikon & Canon?
Canon's had it's full tethering SDK released for years. the fact that sony released a more open and easily programmable API is certainly a nice touch.
pretty sweet .. you could easily get some printable 12x18's out of that .. which from a camera phone is pretty remarkable.
certianly elevates a camera phone above the facebook / instamatic shots into a tool that could be useful in the right hands.