Thank you for the review (and comments). They have been pushing this product on FB, and I have been wondering about it, now I know not to buy it.
I do own a copy of PortraitPro, but don't often use it.
Just in time for the retirement of my now 10 year old D200.
privatepolicy418: Can anyone tell me how Capture One compares with DXO Optics Pro 8? I am debating whether or not I should switch over from DXO. Thanks!
I use them both. They have different advantages. But I wish the round-trip workflow was easier and more intuitive. Also the integration between C1 and the company's own Media-Pro is not smooth.
Forget the difficulty to find the desktop version of LR6 on Adobe's website. To me that was not the biggest frustration. Worse is that LR6 does not support Flash Web Galleries. Arghhh!
So if you have an existing flash website, you cannot update it any longer. You are stuck with a small collection of tired looking HTML templates.
No, you cannot export your favourite Flash template from LR5 and re-import it into LR6. "LR6 does not support Flash templates". Double Arghhh!
Of course, all myc atlogues are now updated to LR6, new photos added, and I cannot go back to LR6 any longer. Triple Arghhh!
I bought Capture One to try alongside DXO. I reckon that is the way to go. Time to say goodbye to LR for me. I am annoyed with Adobe! Well, heck, they don't want us to use desktop software anyway. So its time for bye-bye.
panpen: $1100 for a camera with a tiny sensor when you can get a Sony full frame for only $100 more? No thank you.
Good point Oli4D. I invested in M43 6 months ago, and have pangs of regret for not going Sony A6000 instead. This article doesn't help with that. Surprisingly the M5ii is heavier than the A6000. But then again my Pana GM5 is only 180g (or 6 oz). My 100-300mm (200-600 eq) lens is 520g (1.14lb). So as a replacement for compact cameras, you can't beat that.Two other things to consider is that the Oly is weather-sealed, and image stabilised. So perhaps the M5ii could nicely round off my mirrorless outfit.
CP+ 2015: Nikon shows off ... nothing
Anyone wants to buy a slightly used Panasonic 7-14mm ;)
I'd rather have a D400. Nikon is about to lose me to mirrorless. I'm sure I won't be the first or the last, but do they care? Do they have a comeback? Tired waiting for Nikon.
tennjed: It is as if Panasonic marketing does things specifically to spite customers. I have, and love, the GM1.....When I can use it, which is any time there is no sunshine in the area. I was hoping for the GM5, or something similar, since purchase of the GM1. Now, Panasonic decides they are not going to sell this interchangable lens camera, body-only. I do not need, and will not pay for, another identical kit lens. At a bare minimum, they should offer a kit version with the newer 35-100 lens.
It is probably foolish for me to rant here. My purpose is to make Panasonic aware of the fact that I- a loyal Panasonic customer- want a body-only option for this camera. How insane must I be to think that Panasonic would monitor a consumer based site like DPreview?
Ia Aus there are 3 choices. Body only, Body + 12-32mm, and otionally 35-100mm kit lens as well. SO I think the problem is with Panasonic USA. I got both lenses, but will sell the 35-100, as I have the f2.8 version.
montxsuz: I just got my GM5 about 5 minutes ago, just before finding this review on DPR. Probably would not have changed my mind after reading it.
I bought it to replace my compacts (Coolpix & LX5) and complement my DSLRs, not for the Wi-Fi. The Sony LX100 was a consideration, but it has a fixed mid-range lens.
My criticisms of this camera is the price (Sony A6000 would have been more cost-effective), and the noise in low light (judged by my Panasonic G5). But who cares about JPEGs?
Yes the battery drains quickly. But I saw 3rd Party batteries at B&H for $4.99. Carry a few! And why would GM5 owners not have a 7-14mm? I've ordered one.
I also question the conclusion "16MP Four Thirds sensor starting to look a bit dated". But it would be great if Panasonic could come up with an update which performs better in low light. Rumour is that Olympus will bring out an approx 40MP work-around this year.
All in all, I'm looking forward to have a near-pocket-able camera with exchangeable lenses.
Update. I have used my camera for the first time yesterday and today. I have to say the reviewer has a point re the battery. My battery was exhausted after only 53 pairs of RAW/JPEG photos - on a brand-new charged Panasonic battery! That is very, very low. I haven't received my order of extra batteries yet. Still, I am impressed and like the camera.
@ PPYes I struggled with another lens mount too. I am a Nikon guy, but gave up on waiting for Nikon for a new DX body. But I got another Panasonic G5 cheap before Christmas which I had converted to full spectrum. So now I have 2 bodies to share lenses. Maybe one day I'll get a Olympus upmarket MFT SLR replacement to complement the set.
Just unpacked it, heck, it is smaller than the old Nikon Coolpix compact! The flash is tiny! Here is Aus we also get 2 kit lenses included. The 12-32mm and a small 35-100mm - which I may sell as I have the f2.8 version.
I just got my GM5 about 5 minutes ago, just before finding this review on DPR. Probably would not have changed my mind after reading it.
I've tried out the trial quickly and both Capture One 8 and Media Pro now seems to handle various DNG files. Version 6 (and Media Pro 1.2) could not read DNG files created by DXO Pro, which made it useless for me as a catalogue. I did not upgrade, and switched back to Microsoft Expression Pro, which ironically worked much better. (I've meed using the MS product and its predecessor for years).
But, it may be time to reconsider than decision and try out Capture One once again. Happy days.
backayonder: At last something to make me go FX and hopefully a camera that will give the Canon 5D a run for its money.
Nikon Full Frame cameras up until now have been a bit like Goldilocks and the Three bears
NikonD810 Too muchNikon D610 not enoughnikon D750 just right
Nikon D400 Missing
montxsuz: I've got 5.5, and apparently cannot get v6 anymore. Thats it for me. Jumping ship, looking for an alternative.
YEah, I had 5.1. Mistake. But I had NO listing for CS6 upgrade. I tried both the Au site and the Ca site (not the US). Cloud BS was the only option given to me. But I have contacted Adobe chat and they have solved my issue.
Okay. I caved. Then they caved. (For those interested). I still had Photoshop vers 5, and panicked about being left behind, because all upgrades (except the cloud) disappeared from Adobe website. So I contacted Adobe via their website chat. I insisted I wanted to upgrade to vers 6. First they told me "we don't have real software anymore", but I insisted. I mentioned EBay and cheap. And after some time the rep caved and gave me the download link for a vers 6 upgrade.
Of course I had to buy it through my Canadian bank acct, as it would have cost me double if I used by Australian bank account (go figure). I purchased from downunder. (another example of how they rip us off. The Au$ is worth heaps more than the Ca$)
So I caved, but now I am set up for some time to come. I have an investment in plugins, which will work for some years in CS6. No cloud BS for me in the foreseeable future!
So hang in there, & talk to Adobe. They've reversed their upgrade travesty before.
Just been on a chat session with the "live salesperson" representative at Adobe (through adobe.com). Probably at a call center in India? She tells me that Adobe "don't have any real software" anymore. Ha-ha! So if you're annoyed, get on the chat-line. They did reverse their upgrade policy last year when people got p'd off. So the more feedback, the better.
I've got 5.5, and apparently cannot get v6 anymore. Thats it for me. Jumping ship, looking for an alternative.