Something a lot of you might not know is that, for video, an EVF might not be necessary in the near future (or even now if you can hook it together) because of video glasses. They make them. I haven't tried any, but they are readily available. I don't know how well they hook up to a camera, but I could see it becoming a lot easier to film when using video glasses while mounting the camera on a steady cam.
As long as you can see what you're filming and where you're walking it should work great.
Der Steppenwolf: "EOS 5D III, when it comes to the number of pixels on the sensor. That will take some explaining in camera stores all around the globe!"
If you need explaining why more pixels does not equal better quality then you are a moron.
What camera stores? There aren't that many left that are real camera stores.
my only complaint is that they aren't selling it here in the USA.
Won't it be available through Ebay? I believe the M2 was. Nobody else would sell it, but some Chinese and Japanese retailers would send it to you.
It might present strange warranty issues, but you probably won't need the warranty anyway.
ecube: Cloud? Why give control of your files? I have two 1-½ terabyte, USB portable drives about 10% larger than a cigarette pack. One in my computer bag, another a back-up that stay at home. No need for on-line connection to access my files.
You can make your own cloud now with redundancy. They sell the equipment all over the place. A couple wi-fi hard drives in your home, all your photos stored on both, and you can access from anywhere in the world. I'm eventually going to set one up. Right now I use Smugmug, but it won't hold RAW files unless I pay extra.
Oh, brother! Here we go again.
I've never liked Apple's iOS versions of photo management. They make you have certain folders (favorites is one) and your camera roll (or whatever it's called right now) stays at the top and all photos have to remain in that folder.
Just let me organize my folders and photos how I wish, please.
I'm still an Apple user (my phone) and am going to purchase an iPad soon (but nothing with a mere 1 gb of RAM), but all this changing of the native photo app is annoying.
Just ask your customers what they want.
And while you're at it, please make Safari on iOS a better browser. It has very few custom features.
MikeFairbanks: I currently shoot with a 6D and the included kit lens (24-105L). It's a great setuo, obviously, but previously I had the original EOS-M with 22mm lens, and I really loved that camera.
I would have kept it, but I needed every penny I could scrape up for my current outfit. I wasn't interested in rejoining the M series when the M2 was released because it wasn't a major upgrade (and was pretty much only available through ebay). But this 3 might be a winner.
I am starting to believe what I once thought was just hype: Mirrors are coming to an end soon.
The only limit is autofocus speed. Once that matches the SLR, then the days of the big box cameras are over.
Finally, there is a huge advantage of mirrorless thst is rarely discussed: shutter sound. If you shoot performance, weddings, political events, and still photography for film and TV, silence is golden. Mirrors make noise.
Some excellent points above. Yes, most of the Sony A full frame mirrorless cameras have an audible shutter, but the A7s is soundless.
I have a friend who shoots production stills for film and TV. She is very successful (Tina Rowden), working on shows like The Walking Dead and more.
I was surprised when, a few weeks ago, I saw her feed on Instagram with a Sony hashtag. I asked her, "Did you leave Canon?" she certainly did, and this is a pro who was shooting with an extensive lens collection, sound blimps, etc.
She asked if I wanted to buy her blimp. She doesn't need it anymore. The Sony A7s is not only silent, but has a built in EVF, and therefore is unobtrusive in every way on a film set (or wedding, etc.). No sound, no light. It's the most stealthiness money can buy. And it's not too expensive.
Canon needs to get with it.
I currently shoot with a 6D and the included kit lens (24-105L). It's a great setuo, obviously, but previously I had the original EOS-M with 22mm lens, and I really loved that camera.
Carlos Velasquez: My origianl M doesn´t have Wi-Fi. Is mine the only one?
An Eye-Fi card gives you that ability.
MikeFairbanks: One thing I hadn't thought about, until I had a light exchange with a professional photographer in the movie industry is that the Sony A series has completely silent operation, which is absolutely critical when you're a couple feet from very sensitive microphones.
The DSLRs have gotten quieter, and some of the newer ones have a quiet mode or shutter silent mode, etc., but they aren't exactly silent. You can still hear everything, just on a lower level.
Traditionally, photographers had to purchase an expensive sound blimp for their camera bodies and tubes for their lenses in order to muffle the sound of the shutter, mirror, etc., and they could only change exposure settings between takes on set by opening the blimp case. Then, wifi allowed changes from outside (using an app) so that you could shoot.
But with these Sony A-series cameras, all that is over. No noise (and the ability to turn off the LCD panel because of the EVF) means no inruding on filming while shooting stills.
To add to the above: Through the EVF you are getting a live view image while looking through the traditional viewfinder (which enables you to hold the camera in a more stable manner), and also has the added benefit of live chimping, so-to-speak. You know what the image will look like as your taking it.
The only drawback to the Sony A-series while shooting on a film or television show is that the DSLRs with a mirror still autofocus slightly faster (but not much).
I just started working on a web series show and I'm literally right next to the camera, stressing out about the sound of my shutter (even on its quiet mode). For that reason I'm seriously considering switching to mirrorless full frame.
One thing I hadn't thought about, until I had a light exchange with a professional photographer in the movie industry is that the Sony A series has completely silent operation, which is absolutely critical when you're a couple feet from very sensitive microphones.
PamlicoKid: We got to move these refrigerators…We got to move these color tv's
Money for nothing.
Yeah, buddy, that's his own hair.
This is slightly off topic (in terms of Samsung and their products), but is more of a statement about mirrorless cameras.
1. My prediction is that eventually cameras will have no viewfinder or lcd screen on the back. You will see the image using your glasses (similar to Google Glass, but without the huge clunky processor attached to the frames). You will see what the sensor sees.
Yes, there are glasses out that can take pics or video, but we're still talking about sensor size here. It matters. So a camera that is full frame could take up a lot less space (in its chassis) if there was no lcd panel or viewfinder.
When you get home to your computer you could see the higher-quality image/results), or pull out a tablet when you have a chance to sit down (or whatever).
This technology is already available, obviously, as people fly drones FPV, but imagine the weight and size saved without an lcd screen.
Make the cameras at home, Canon.
Wow, that is a man who can answer questions.
I support this move due to the fact that China still hangs its hat on the communist rack.
Yeah, yeah, I know. They are about as communist as Pee Wee Herman is a prize fighter. Nevertheless, I'd rather (if given the choice), purchase products from a democracy.
D1N0: FF was just not very affordable up until about 2 years ago. It's also not an upgrade but a reclaiming of lost ground from the film era. I don't see manufacturers forcing me into an upgrade path either. That just forum talk. People who need this opinion to make up their mind should stick with their gear until they know it's limitations an possibilities. Then they will be able to make an educated choice. There isn't any myth but in the mind of some people.
Exactly. Full frame isn't an upgrade. APS (advanced Photo System) was a downgrade. It was a smaller film that was easier to load and unload into a camera. The "advanced" part of it was how easily you could swap out rolls of film without worrying about accidentally exposing a roll.
But that was the only advanced part of it. The image quality was a regression.
marc petzold: If the rumors are true, then Sony would someday (perhaps in 2015) release a NEX-5 Style Fullframe DSLM, maybe named A5...with a cheap Kitlens together for as low as 799 EUR...i'd think that would go away like hotcakes.
Sony made this patent for a FF sensor inside a NEX-5 body sort-of back in 2013, as sonyalpharumors wrote back then in time already.
I think many ppl could live without an EVF, and a FF DSLM for that price including a decent Kitlens could be really bring the masses to Fullframe cameras, at least from Sony...if it would really being released for around 800 EUR only...nobody would buy a Alpha 5x00/6000 series APS-C DSLM then anymore, mostly.
But like i said into a previous post, each sensor size does have it's right to be on the market, different sensors for diff. needs & different cameras, it's alright.
If a Sony mirrorless can be small AND shoot as quicly (and focus as quickly) as a Canikon SLR then it will indeed do well.
But nothing is worse than a blurry photograph. A blurry photograph gets deleted.
I switched to full frame for the low light benefits. I frequently am able to get very good images with little to no noise in low light conditions at 6400 ISO.
I also love my iPhone (5S) and am looking forward to upgrading to a 6 or 6+ soon because they take great photos.
And they can connect (the 6D and the iPhone).
But I'm not really interested in anything in between.
I use the phone for snapshots and the 6D for portraits. I rarely need any kind of reach
Craigiri is right. After he wrote his comment I researched for verification. Indeed, Home Depot is selling it as well under a different name and color.