Mr Justice Cocklecarrot: Curious that the Panasonic LF1 is overlooked. It's an LX7 with a longer but slower lens, but with a EVF.And it has the same 1/1.7 sensor.
Currently top of my Christmas list.
LF-1. Wasn't overlooked. See the pocketable comparative test.It was not loved....nor liked...
Impulses: $400 mini vs $230 Nexus 7... Tough sale, I didn't think there'd be a price hike with the Retina display but I guess it makes sense if they're keeping the old one. Selling the old model well into 2014 would be rather odd tho... It's gonna start dragging a-- with updates.
Still reading about repeated reboot issues with the Nexus 7 (2013).After all these months you would think the Nexus 7 bugs would be fixed.....Not an encouraging sign.Is it a software/firmware problem, or a Nexus 7 hardware problem? Either way, Google has not done its job fully correcting this issue even after all this time with a widely known issue......
Every other test of the iPhone 5S has found its IQ significantly better than that of the iPhone 5.....
I think Dpreview has it totally wrong. Excellent sensor. MSRP $399 with kit lens. The A3000 will fly off the shelves no matter what the LCD/EVF resolution. The fact that it has both is an asset!
shadowz: Does the 3N have body / lense based steady shot .?..
"Up to ISO 16000 sensitivity with advanced noise reduction
With a new Exmor™ sensor that features the same adaptive noise reduction technology from Sony’s flagship SLT-A99V, the NEX-3N easily offers a wide range of sensitivity from ISO 100 to ISO 16000."
From the Sony USA website....
They missed mentioning the new to the NEX line, but available in the Sony FF camera the advanced special area linked NR system.
" Unlike the XZ-1, the little XZ-10 allows control over the noise reduction level being applied to JPEGs."
Interesting to note. Also MSRP US is $399. Available March.
Given the size, weight and price of the MX-1, a hot shoe and external EVF option should have been included. This is much larger than the Canon S series and the Sony RX where their is a size reason for not including a hot shoe and an EVF option.No excuse for these omissions on the Pentax MX -1.The smaller and cheaper Olympus ZX 10 lacks both, but it is smaller and cheaper.This Pentax will fall between the cracks. If you are going into the non pocketable grouping, the Fuji X 20 with a hot shoe with a built in EVF that has loads of information shown in the EVF and that had an extremely fast AF and an even larger sensor would be the way to go.The Fuji X 20 even weighs significantly less than the Pentax. If you want pocketable, this camera is too big and heavy and the Canon S and Sony RX are your choices.
NiallM: You buy this if you want ultra - compactness and better IQ than from one of the mass media compacts. It really that simple, and so it will be of interest to a lot of people who aren't going to whinge about lack of vf, zoom etc...it's just about having the camera with you to capture the moment with minimum fuss or inconvenience..my smallest compact is a Canon IXUS 70, which is very dated etc..yet it is so small and that's the lure and charm of it - this Oly is a big step up from it in specs and it will sell..when the price comes down a bit..
Ultra compact it is not.
NIK11: Thanks for the hands-on. I have high hopes of this camera.
The Sony 12mp sensor that we might assume the XZ10 sports has a good pedigree and I'd put money on it that its performance will be close enough to 1/1.7 not to matter(DOF ignored). With a fast lens, useful functionality, easy usability and comfortably pocketable, finally we have a niche camera that's been begging for some years. It's not breakthrough, but it has been missing from the line up of me too superzooms etc.
This looks like a winner, provided Oly prices it competitively.
The question is...does the faster lens (at the mid to longer focal lengths) and newer sensor technology challenge that tried and true correct equation?
Has this specific sensor been used in any other camera or is it new never before seen sensor???????
Absolutic: This is borning. Instead, tell us, Richard, did you get to play with Fuji X20 and X100s, and is Phase AF really that well on these, and one question that noone seems to be able to answer re: new Fujis, does phase AF gets cut off in low light like on Sonys/Nikons, or does it stay operational?
Thank you Richard....Much appreciated....
Greynerd: It is interesting that they have left so much of the functionality of its big brother intact. Quite an interesting change from the usual marketing trick of keeping a large differential between the models. I think Olympus should be commended for that. It looks a very capable little machine and I hope the IQ turns out well. Probably most prospective buyers are probably well aware of the DOF or relative FF aperture or whatever, though I presume we will have to batten down the hatches against interminable detailed lectures on this as noted already.
Thank you Gully. I did not know that.....
But the XZ 10 does not share the XZ 1/XZ 2 sensor.
marike6: I think a problem this camera may face is price. For about the same money you can get the new Pentax MX-1. It's a bit bigger, but it has a faster lens, and a tilt-able LCD, and from what I've seen, excellent IQ.
MX-1 AF test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtsYLJaOPgI
The XZ-10's max shutter speed of 1/2000 (unless it has a built in ND filter) is not great. The MX-1 in contrast goes to 1/8000.
I know which one I'd choose, but everybody has different needs.
The MX-1 also has a larger sensor, but it lacks the custom settable setting lens rings that the Sony RX 100 and Canon S110 have. If I am not mistaken, the Pentax will be more expensive, but I am not sure.
Mr Butler thank you for the posting. The crucial question with this camera is its IQ given the smaller sensor than the Canon S 110 for one. Could/should have Oly used a larger sensor even with a fast lens? Which is more important an across the board helpful larger sensor or a lens that is faster at the middle to long end of its zoom range? Smart compromise or poor choice?Mr. Butler, given your experience with current sensors of all sizes, to keep this camera small, which has more impact across the board to the camera's IQ...the larger sensor of the Canon S or the faster lens (tele) of the Oly at the expense of a smaller sensor?
After all our speculation about the IQ, the only way we will know for sure is when we can see samples and tests.Until then, we are all using educated assumptions.
IF the price was lower....$250, then it might be viable.
As it is, it is too expensive for the point and shoot crowd.
The enthusiast crowd already has available excellent options with larger sensors at competitive prices (including RAW if that concerns you).
This camera would have been very desirable two years ago.Too little. Too late.
Good job Apple. The iPhone 5's IQ is clearly better.