RStyga: I hope that the next FW update will address the price issue too..
I am a very happy owner of a $650 mint X1... and I am sure in the near future I will be the proud owner of a $1200-$1500 mint X (type 113) In fact I am also very interested in a X-Pro1 body for $550... -No problem with that at all- and I don´t see why the brands could be ruined by that. I love both.
Just add a Luigi´s case with its back door and you can have the same purist experience with any digital M. By the way, these are not real pictures of the actual camera, but 3D renderings.
I guess the buyer also collects Hasselblad Lunars...
JimiV: How many of you who comment have actually seen any of Lik's work in person?
I'm always amazed by it and wish I owned some. You might not like it, that's fine. But apparently a LOT of people do.
For those who say he takes 'tourist' photos... yeah right. Please show us your images that come close to his in either technique or value in the marketplace.
Does he use PS? I don't know, I suspect so. But I don't care at all, anymore than I care what camera he used. It's the finished product that counts. Just as with a painter or sculptor, I don't care about the brand of brush or chisel.
All art is in the eye of the beholder. If someone can afford and wants to pay $10 or $100 Million, it's their call. I've seen a lot of art that I can't figure out how they can charge (and get) anything for it. but they do. I accept that some peoples taste are different than mine. I don't degenerate the work or the artist because the vision isn't mine. Nor do I mock the people who buy it.
I did, and it is very impressive. But not 6.5mill impressive.
mickeybphoto: For that money, I would have bought a fleet of Ansel Adams original prints; and then some. I wrote to Peter Lik and his office staff to see if Lik could or would come speak to my photography class I teach to adults. The reply I got was Mr. Lik is far too busy for that sort of thing. Hmm! I see.
You could buy all Ansel work including his house...
villagranvicent: Those labels are nonsense. A "pro" camera won´t turn the user into a pro photographer, but a pro photographer can turn an iPhone into a pro camera. so what´s the point?
Put a cab driver in front of a Ferrari F1 and won´t win the race either. The point is not because every month there are new cameras the old ones become automatically "obsolete" and unable to deliver great images.
Those labels are nonsense. A "pro" camera won´t turn the user into a pro photographer, but a pro photographer can turn an iPhone into a pro camera. so what´s the point?
villagranvicent: The same thing has been said a thousand times... A Honda Civic takes you to the same place than a BMW 7 series, so what? I don´t think all BMW owners think they are better drivers than the rest, they simple get what they like/can afford.
It seems like in the photography world a little luxury is not allowed. (I would´t buy it for full price, but just got myself a new Stellar for $999dlls at BH and no regrets).
I don´t think it has an optical better lens, it is faster, but shorter too, so I guess is just a matter of taste, I woudn´t pay more than $999dlls for one, but I took the deal simply because I liked the looks and the original RX100 was already a very competent camera. Hasselblad heritage in MF is undeniable and still offers top quality cameras (even though the lenses are Fujis)
The same thing has been said a thousand times... A Honda Civic takes you to the same place than a BMW 7 series, so what? I don´t think all BMW owners think they are better drivers than the rest, they simple get what they like/can afford.
Souciantmag: I'm absolutely in agreement that the LX100 looks like a great camera. But the praise lavished on it in this review is irritating, particularly the best of the best rhetoric. The 12MP sensor issue is a big problem. Not that we need megapixels, but for such a costly camera, with a great lense, it's a huge drawback. A Sony A6000 would be a better bargain. I say this being a big fan of Lumix cameras.
Many people who complain about 12MP still drooling over the 5MP Digilux 2 so I guess 12 is more than enough for everyday use...
I can´t wait to get my hands on the D-Lux version... Finally the Digilux 2 "2015" model.
I would´t trade my Fujis for this brick. Too big and heavy it looks like a giant Nikon F3 (which back in the 80´s I used to love)
Rooru S: Those rebadges were a bad idea from the very beggining. Actually, every single rebadged camera is a bad idea... but works sometimes. Look at Leica, they're doing fine with their Panasonic cameras.
There are even some crazy people saying Leica harvest by hand the best Lumix lenses and bodies for their Leica rebadge cameras, (like if there were variations in their line of production!)
villagranvicent: Even with those "flaws" I bet this camera can take beautiful pictures. And it is one sexy piece of photography gear. I would trade it for my X1 in a beat.
I would say 3 reasons to upgrade, in not specific order:
I think (based on pictures) that it is a more hefty body, maybe less point and shoot feeling (?) The stop faster, which it delivers shallower DoF... and last but not least, the Silver/chocolate combo looks beautiful! But I agree the X1 is excellent! -I like it more than my X100 LE-
Agreed... I am still (from time to time) searching for a nice Digilux 2 example with new sensor on ebay, just for nostalgia!! Hasselblad should work on the X-Pan platform for the digital era.
Even with those "flaws" I bet this camera can take beautiful pictures. And it is one sexy piece of photography gear. I would trade it for my X1 in a beat.
I think Pana-Leicas are doing fine because they charge just a few hundreds more than the Lumix counterparts, like in the case of the new LX100 vs D-lux, the difference is within 300dlls... In this case Hasselblad wanted to charge $7000 for a $700 Nex7! (I just checked eBay)
Free Jazz: From the JPEG, low sharpness and NR is notable, and the samples are even worse than RX100III & G7x, what's wrong?
I don´t think is anything wrong with the camera, DP´s samples are not always "the best" to judge a camera...!
RStyga: If you strip these compact X Leica cameras from the self-indulgence feeling-good consumerist delusional trick of the large elaborate packaging and monolithic old-fashioned German marketing, what remains is a well-built camera with varying (mostly mediocre) performance and lack of features at a very high price. Suit yourselves...
Agree... But even my (sadly sold) Digilux 2 delivered beautiful results, I know: zero control of DoF, useless @iso 400, etc but the files look I don´t know, "dense" with lots of character. I miss that. If the new D-Lux can give me some of that love I will buy it in a bit.
I own a Fuji X100, Fuji XE1 and a Leica X1. Even as I really like the Fuji bodies specially the X100, I find the files a little dull... sterile, they lack character. "The Leica look" do exists!