jackpro: Disappointing looks like my advice to friends if your buying aps-c stick with Nikon the camera, focus, lenses are of a higher quality. If you shoot prime lenses like me then buy the glass which in my case is 35L, 50L, 85L. Nikon don't have the goods there, any Canon FF body will do the shots will come out beautiful with no post production work needed. Perfect for the pro DSLR shooter looking for the best results with minimal effort.
Maybe, but in the f/2.8 "section" the new lenses from Canon simply crush everything else. Not speaking about f/4, where the 200-400 has no equivalent on Earth. With a fun fact: for DxO, the Canon EF 70-200 f/2.8 II is "not quite stellar". For the rest of the World (of reviewers, including photozone.de), it is. Cheers! :) P.S.: no worries, Canon will soon start to upgrade the 1.4s... They have no other option, as a jump in sensor resolution is fast approaching.
From a movie I think you all know (and possibly like): "Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein!" Cheers! :)
I think this is an impressive lens design...but why the AF issue? WHY? Come on Sigma, this MUST be solved, I have sold my entire set of Sigma lenses for the same reason: AF was horrible! Cheers...!:)
"L'Enfer, c'est les autres..."J. P. Sartre
Zerg2905: Leaving behing the (potential) 1200 negative comments about these new compact cameras releases I still wonder about Canon's Marketing tactics. So: G16, small sensor, NO weather sealing, NO L glass. Is this a possible "niche", dear Canon MKT? NOBODY has a "PRO" (and people, please don't give me the Sony RX100 crap argument, under heavy rain/dust it will be worthless), relatively light weight compact that can be taken to a short mountain trip. And please don't tell me that this "will eat the DSLRs lunch" because it will NOT - you will never do the same thing with the 7D and the G16, you know... Even so, having a "PRO" (weather sealed, body AND lens) compact with a high performance sensor as a second body can be a compelling solution for photographers that don't want to carry a ton of photo equipment, in addition to the specific mountain (or jungle, swamp etc) gear. Why not? Can you do this for, let's say, 800 USD/EUR? Cheers! :) P.S.: please don't forget about the 7D II in the process...
Unfortunately, yes. But, that's my point: why not? Why not to take the G1 X, for instance, and make a true "pocket battleship" (to quote Michael Reichman)? Cheers! :)
Well, you will have to look in the past: there WAS such a compact... produced by Canon. Cheers! :)
Leaving behing the (potential) 1200 negative comments about these new compact cameras releases I still wonder about Canon's Marketing tactics. So: G16, small sensor, NO weather sealing, NO L glass. Is this a possible "niche", dear Canon MKT? NOBODY has a "PRO" (and people, please don't give me the Sony RX100 crap argument, under heavy rain/dust it will be worthless), relatively light weight compact that can be taken to a short mountain trip. And please don't tell me that this "will eat the DSLRs lunch" because it will NOT - you will never do the same thing with the 7D and the G16, you know... Even so, having a "PRO" (weather sealed, body AND lens) compact with a high performance sensor as a second body can be a compelling solution for photographers that don't want to carry a ton of photo equipment, in addition to the specific mountain (or jungle, swamp etc) gear. Why not? Can you do this for, let's say, 800 USD/EUR? Cheers! :) P.S.: please don't forget about the 7D II in the process...
Canon, come on, what's this?! 80x or nothing, eventually f/2.8. And soon, OK? Cheers! :) :) :)
Alec_c: Amazed how many fallen on their asses for the dual diode pixel. Good for filming, maybe good when shooting - still to be seen. After a good treatment from Canon in plastic bodies and intentionally crippled cameras (see 60D, 6D), apparently no one remembers what the xxD line stood for: prosumer/semi-pro quality and performance, solid build and excellent ergonomics. What we get with this is good if you're tiny and with child hands - a camera just barely bigger than an entry level, made so tiny as no place to put one button more or a audio jack, and all plastic build, now norm. Been waiting to replace my 40D for so long I got spiderwebs on my wallet. And apparently these will grow thicker as good it may be then new camera is unusable ... unless you keep it with the fingertips. And of course, use only light, entry level lenses so it does not fall onto it's nose.I have also looked in the samples from Canon website ... nothing spectacular.Let's see what DP will tell us in their review.
@Alec_c: intentionally crippled cameras = segmentation (marketing). Samsung is doing the same, major car manufacturers - the same, Apple the other way around, but it's just market segmentation. And it is working for decades. Cheers! :)
My initial take: If this 70D will definitely show an improvement at the sensor level, then good news - as it looks a bit intentionally "crippled", maybe ultimately there is a 7D II on the drawing board. If yes, then my prediction is: THAT camera will be AWESOME (and pricey). Cheers! :)
Dimit: It is my feeling-or should I say certainty-that Canon ALWAYS gives less for more versus all other brands.Why? Because they consider-and probably it's more or less true-their products as being 10 to 30 % better than eqivalent products of Nikon,Sony and so on.This is applicable to dslrs solely.I can live with it.When though it comes to milks,this is totally another area.As I believe that within 10-20 years time mirrored staff will be obsolete,something like dinausars-and they SHOULD be-Canon will follow up,probably last of all.Let's not forget that this firm is deeply conservative and radical innovations is the last card a firm plays knowing they own the highest sales percentage worlwide.Regarding 70d; Astep forward for sure,emphasizing in af and video mostly,excellent stills quality as always,weight and dimentions still big enough,although minimization CAN be effected WITH THE SAME CONTROLS.But then,one step at the time,one has to switch to the next model merely every 2 years,no?
@AbrasiveReducer: I completely agree with you (this is also true for Europe, maybe except France, where Nikon might have the lead in absolute DSLR sales) - this is the way a large corporation like Canon works. Cheers! :) P. S.: I own a 5D III and a 7D, not perfect but very good cameras, especially the 5D III (7D looks a bit older right now - and I am targeting solely its sensor here, the body is just fine)
I am pretty curious about the happy / unhappy ratio at the end of the day. Normally every recent Canon launch is associated with "oh, such a dissapointment" and "oh, fail" etc.... Now, on a more serious note, it seems they (Canon) started to get back in the still image photography - a good thing. It is not the 7D II, but looks good. Cheers! :)
massimogori: It is evident that Canon rose the bar and targeted Leica, not Tamron nor Tokina. They already succeeded in matching prices. Next step will be to match Leica's market share.
So, you do many P&Ls while testing lenses?! Many forecast meetings? Many "war games". Wow, impressive. My second take: you have no idea about what I was talking about, and you just felt the need to post a reply, without even asking for a clarification.. Hint: try photo industry trends (the real ones, with SWOTs based on each component etc). And, btw, you also have no idea what's inside (exact materials used, tolerances etc), because that's a well guarded matter - this is why third party players like Tamron / Sigma are not quite "close". Cheers! :)
Me, the owner of a "pile" of Canon equipment, I had no choice but to buy a Nikon for my daughter. Why? Because "wow daddy, it is PINK (PINK!!!) and I can play with it UNDER WATER...". And that was it. Canon has no PINK underwater camera, so an easy win for the (almost unbreakable) little Nikon (the IQ had/has zero relevance). Happy ending for everyone. Cheers! :)
Good. Now Canon, how about 1. getting back SERIOUSLY in the (still photo) sensor business (= throwing all others in the stone age, I mean like it was before Sony spent a fortune helping Nikon DSLRs and their own photo division) and 2. putting a killer AF (vs the mirrorless stablemates and not DSLRs, just to obviously avoid "cannibalization") in a "less-than-DSLR" camera? Think you will get a system that will sell like peanuts... Cheers! :)
Hmmm... f/1.8 is VERY tempting but the range is rather not. If the price will go far above 800 - 900 EUR / USD then... sorry but no way for me to go for this lens. Cheers! :)
Oh, really...? There is a difference between a CD and a vinyl LP, you know... So, which is the innovative one today - the CD or the vinyl LP? Or, do you like more the DTS HD Master quality of your Bluray? So, which one is better? So, why is the Canon 24-70 II a bad product or not "innovative"? Yes, no IS, but otherwise what do you really know about "what's inside" that lens (tech wise)? My take: you have no idea. Cheers! :)
Ta-daaaa: downloaded, tested, looks OK - so far. Now, Canon how about the following "firmware" update: a 5D with all these features/capabilities PLUS a 46 MP sensor MINUS a huge price increase, please... Cheers! :) (+ bonus :) :) )
Zerg2905: Thing is, Canon should do a proper 7D Mark II. If they do, it will not probably get the Gold Award here (and probably that will generate much bla-bla like comments), but many of its users will be rather happy. I am, my 7D is a "wreck" but it shoots high velocity RAWs and, if properly tuned, even low ISOs are acceptable. Not the 2013 quality, but acceptable and printable on A3. Canon, I hope you listen. Well. Cheers! :)
It is not entirely relevant, I agree. Please do the following (I will do a bit of "reverse engineering" with your comment): compare the 7D & the 7100 in RAW, 3200 or 6400. Is the 7100 better? Yes it is. It is "mind blowingly" good? No, it is not. And that, for a bigger, modern 2013 sensor, it's a shame. And, that's just Part One. Part Two: the EOS 7D is a rock and a machine gun (RAW) at the same time. The 7100 has to prove that, too. Cheers! :) P.S.: I am a big critic of the current Canon strategy, but I am not responsible for their P&L, so they should know better if this keeps the company alive or not.
SRT3lkt: In a few years' time, top score will exceed 100%.
Oh, but yes, as Canon is so "weak", there will be Nikon vs Nikon only, so the score might exceed 100%... Cheers! :)