caravan: Why so much hate for this remarkable new camera? There are still plenty of options available for those who do not want,need,or lack the skills needed to get outstanding results from this awesome new product.
@Tessarboy: oh dear, so do you use it since 1958? Because I use the AE-1 since 1981. It was not about the bragging, it was about experience with Canon gear. That was the matter.
km25: If this is a landscape camera, at fity big ones. Canons needs to up grade most of their wides, like the 20mm F2.8, it was not even a great lens twenty years ago. I say this with respect for the a fine camera company.
Yep, very good point.
1981 (AE-1 Program). Pause. No film available (yes Dear Bronxbombers4, it was very difficult those days to get film and not get arrested...). 1999 (3000N). EOS 3. EOS 400D. EOS 40D. EOS 50D. EOS 7D. EOS 5D II. EOS 600D. EOS 5D III. EOS 700. EOS 7D II... And a Nikon D80, a Pentax MZ-7, a Zenit-12, a Praktica and a very old...Certina on 120. If politeness would be present here, so it would be an apology.
Clark Hampton: I finally got a computer that can handle the D800 files, now this? :)
16GB + a Titan Z will do. And other stuff (liquid cooled CPU, military grade mainboard) will do as well. :)
Wedding photographer: One of the sample images from 5dsrhttp://canon-premium.webcdn.stream.ne.jp/www09/canon-premium/eosd/samples/eos5dsr/downloads/03.jpg
I found many dental caries in the teeth of a hippopotamus.
The bad news is that to remove pimples from the face of the bride's portraites will be even more difficult. Oops (
One of the 10 good comments around. :) :) :)
Frank C.: the mighty Sony a9 /w 50M+ sensor will smack the Canon down and all the time and effort would have been for naught, shame really.
Audi A9 will be a nice car.
@Segaman: sort of. Rather a mix of Nikon/Sony/others.
Dr_Jon: Very interesting comment on the Northlight site:
"An interesting comment (thanks), coming via testing a pre-release 5Dsr with a test version of DPP4. Low ISO DR is put at 1.5-2 stops better than the 1D X, but high ISO performance (6400) falls marginally behind the 7Dmk2.The sensor is similar to the 7D2 technology, but has apparently been tuned to maximise low ISO performance."
"Technology" is a broad term.
rb67: 1525 comments in just 2 days, so much for what trolls consider a worthless camera.
And that's a healthy approach. My take.
Anastasiadis Lazaros Thessaloniki Wedding: I wish I had not spend so much money on canon lenses, nikon and sony make better and better cameras and canon is not following. 5D 20D were wonder cameras but ever since canon has made minimal improvments and inovations on photography, (canon focusing more on video?). 7DMKII and now 5Ds, its like seeing a remake of older models, minimal improvements on Dynamic Range and ISO. If I shoot the same 1600asa pic on a 5D and on a 5Ds or a 5DMKII and print it on a 1meter poster the Dynamic Range will be the same and the details will be the same. How many professionals need to print over 1meter? And why not giving at least a 4k video capability on the new 5Ds? So many things seem wrong to me in how canon "rewards" people who invested in canon lenses.
Because all "landscape pros" around here (this includes some DP staff, it seems) are underexposing to -5 EV for EACH landscape picture. Then the results are bravely presented to public and fellow photographers, showing why Canon sensor design is so poor and why there are only Silver Awards in stock for Canon. That was the "trick" used for the 7D II (which, btw, is a super performer when talking about shadow recovery vs my 5D III), and it will continue until Canon will lower some profitability (or compensate from other business) and redo the manufacturing process (and, judging only SENSORS, Canon will equal Sony). But even then, all Canon cameras will be considered "me too's", because some other features and gizmos will not be present due to some marketing rules. In the meantime, Canon has a strategy. And don't be fooled, please, it is not easy to stay No. 1. - many dogs are barking around.
princecody: Canon just released this Amazing 5DS R & no rotating screen? Have they lost their mind?
ps: The sensor is made by Sony. Sony also makes the sensor in the Nikon D810 :)
:) - until you use a Canon, it must be horrible. Silly. :) :) :)
Interesting - thanks!
That was in November 2014.
MarioV: Always amusing to read the comments.Its as if all products that get released somehow should have been designed for someone's specific use and couldnt possibly be released for a type of audience.
If you dont like it, move on to something that does suit your needs.
I think these cameras are brilliant and the next step in evolution. The samples are superb. They can and will only get better.
Yes. They got that right.
I propose the following for the next Canon DSLR release: zero comments, until someone uses the camera and can bring here real life shooting experience. The more users with opinions, the better. With pros and cons, explained. Can you do that?Everything else is speculation combined with large amounts of "I'm OK, you still have a long way". High school. With "experts".
P. S.: clinical trials are one thing, post authorization studies might show other additional matters, and retrospective analyses can bring an interesting conclusion as well. So: DP review first (yes, bias is present in clinical trials, so I expect to be present here as well, no more illusions), followed by users with real life shooting experience.
BobYIL: I do not believe that a lot of MF users would switch to the new Canon. For them a number of factors like DR, depth of color, tonality, etc. count usually more than the mere number of pixels. A great number of them are still using backs with 40MP or even less, and those who thought they could do with FF or for backup have chosen the 800 series Nikons. To find a crack in the pro-market, Canon needs to come up with one to put 36MP Nikons in shade.
A lot, certainly not, in my opinion. Some, maybe.
armandino: So this camera does not have dual pixel? Then it definitely not a 7DII upscaled sensor
Use a microscope and you will find the answer.
Nigel Wilkins: Why are there so many that won't use a camera with the DR of this camera? I don't think there were any photos I took (or wanted to take) in the last few years that needed a camera with higher DR (5D, 5DII, 6D).
Yeah, but that's technique, right? So, you know the pros and cons, and just use the camera in a proper manner. Give me a 5Ds R, and I think I will not complain at all. I will not buy it right now, as it is too expensive to use it only for macro (my primary intent would be to use it for extreme macro), but I think skilled photographers will find it awesome for other uses as well. We'll see. Plus, I would challenge a landscape expert to FIRST use the camera and give me the verdict - that's what I want to hear (and not just crappy comments).
dwill23: First impressions from a long time Canon user....
I shelled out the $3000 for the EOS D30, 3.2MP 3FPS camera; Canon's first D-SLR. And most between, like the 20D, way ahead of it's time.
I sold my 5D3 two months ago in anticipation for the 'next big thing'. I was 100% sure it would have 4k and dual-pixel AF. WRONG.
What we see here is a 5D3 with a 50mp sensor shoved in, and not a class-leading one at that.
Canon doesn't want you to buy a 5DS they want you to buy a 4k Video camera ALONG WITH a 5DS.
My dream camera was FF with Dual Pixel AF for awesome DOF in my videos.
In an attempt to not cannibalize Canon's even-higher-priced offerings they tone down the video features and offer 50mp which the guy in the video points out lower S&M Raw formats cause 50mp is too much for weddings!
= Pointless. Disappointing.
I was laughed at when I told all my friends we'd all be shooting Sony one day and this just moved that date closer.
No way - these two (5Ds and 5Ds R) are not the 5DIII followers. So, wrong strategy, I would say. Wait for the 5D IV before drawing conclusions. If 5D IV will fail you, then right, you are 100% entitled to look elsewhere. But, 4K: to do...what? Film on 16:9 only...? Because I assume 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 (21:9) will be out of question...
lacikuss: Is this the Sony Sensor?
Nope, that is Canon as well.