MPA1: Page 2 - proof reader asleep!
"crop factor this medium format " should read "crop factor of this medium format "The grammar police never sleep!
VBLondon: One thing that surprised me in the final conclusion were the remarks on image quality EM1 vs D7100 being about the same.
Trying to be objective, I looked at the DXOmark scores. The D7100 sensor scores significantly more highly. In the one metric I can easily compare several cameras I've owned, I've found the DXO ISO measurement reasonably accurate in indicating low light performance. The D7100 has about a stop better performance - not at "crazy" high ISOs, but at those useful for normal available light shooting on occassion indoors or outdoors. The DXO mark also suggests better colour depth and DR.
I'm not saying the EM1 isn't arguably the best choice, I'm just surprised the sensor performance trade-off is not even mentioned?
"just to prove the unprovable that m43 camera can take decent portrait which it cannot."
It's comments like this that make me avoid DP Review. As always though, such comments speak more about the person making the comment. Perhaps your skills are such that you would struggle to make a decent portrait with a m43 camera?
xc1427: when does dpreview turn to be a rumor website ?
Actually, I suspect that they post these rumours because they have an NDA. This is a way to get round it. I know I visit DPR much less these days, because there is more "news" on the rumour sites......that hits DPR in the pocket, as a division of Amazon.
HA! Can't wait to plug my Olympus VF-2 into a Leica M.....
Both lenses are great news. As long as they are weather sealed, they will be hard to resist! Hope Olympus leapfrogs Panny with a 200/2.8 instead....
I like this lens, but probably won't get it. Not when the new Olympus 60/2.8 macro lists for $499.This will probably list at $1299 like the 12-35mm, which is getting up there.
Happy, Happy, Joy Joy! Double the money, no flash shoe.....and it doesn't even say Leica or Hermes on the body! WTF?Still, I guess my wife would "get it".
Comes in silver to match your primes ;-)http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/products/dslr/mlenses/12-50_35-63_ez/
@Nate 21: Good question, but this is will be no slower at 42mm than the current kit lenses. This will be a kit lens with a weather sealed body, and looks like a big step up to me.Great lens for an outdoors photographer, and there is a nice range of fast primes now to complement it in low light.It will be interesting to see if the IQ is high, this could be a brilliant landscape lens.
Don Simons: Too late and too expensive.The Germans produced a V1 back in the 40s and that bombed out as well. No Nikon, people who own compact cameras to take snaps do not want a bag full of lenses and a one inch thick operating manual.This appears to be just another paranoid decision by a moribund seniority based management system. Perhaps the brighter, younger executives might like to compile all the negative comments here and elsewhere and table them at the next Nikon board meeting.
Well, the German version was DESIGNED to bomb out.......but seriously, many buyers of DSLR's just want something with better IQ and faster focusing than their compact. I know about 5 "soccer mums" seriously disappointed by their DSLR's with kit zooms. This will help the sports photography, at least outside, but will be no better in an auditorium or sports hall. And it is much smaller than an average DSLR with kit zoom.Not saying I love, I don't....not buying one. Happy with my m43. But I would recommend it to a true "soccer mum", over an LX5 or the like, if outdoor sports was its main intended use.If they bring out a Nikon "3", with an FX sensor and similar full capabilities with the FX lenses, I could see that pleasing all the crying masses...... Fair enough that they practice on a new format and market before bringing out the version for the more experienced users.
djsphynx: First sentence seems to be missing something... roughly what?
Good point. Every company needs its own strategy, and these are usually revealed in stages.Richard, any chance of updating the diagram to include the 2/3 size sensor that Fuji is bringing out in the X10? Very relevant in the buying decisions of some.
GiPi: Owning and heavily using Nikon's full frame DSLR (D700, waiting for the 800) plus 3 excellent 2.8 Nikkor lenses (24-70, 70-200 and 105 Macro) I frequently wish to have also a small but good-quality compact, mirrorless or whatever for street/fast situations. I'm totally confused by the increasing selection and wonder what are Pros like you doing? What is the best mini-companion in your view? Or is it wise to wait a little longer (always is, unfortunately...)? Thanks, Giora
I'm not a pro, but m43 currently has the best choice of lenses. Your current lenses will be too bulky and slow on the Nikon 1, so I wouldn't bother taking that into consideration. If you prefer zooms, wait a bit for the new "X" lenses from Panasonic (12-35, 35-100mm), which will match your current set-up. Or get the Olly 12mm & 45mm and Panny 20mm primes to give yourself two distinctly different outfits. Which body? GH2 if a built in EVF is important, otherwise go for whatever tickles your design senses!
Geoffrey Kitt: I don't know why we are all obsessed with sensor SIZE. It is sensor performance that is important. I expect in the future we will see smaller sensors with the capability of today's full frame sensors. We are not there yet, but Nikon's and Pentax's decision to launch small sensor ILCs might be the start of a new direction which will focus R&D on getting better performance from small sensors. After all, the computer industry has managed to put processing power that would have filled a large room fifty years ago into your smartphone today. And nobody is now saying that we need bigger computers!
Sensor size does make a difference in depth of field, there is a trade-off there no matter how good other aspects of the sensor are. This difference is amplified without wide aperture lenses.Personally, I think the DOF vs. portability issue is the only question a buyer will need to ask themselves once sensor and lens design is more mature.For me, m43 gets it about right, especially right now. If Nikon brings out faster and smaller lenses it will compete well. The difference between the 1" sensor and 4/3 is about the same between 4/3 and APSC, which many of us are comfortable with. Choice is good!
The name starts to make sense. Nikon 1, with a 1" format sensor (16mm diagonal). Not big steps for them to later bring out a Nikon "2" with a DX format sensor, basically double the diagonal (28mm or so), and FX as a Nikon "3" with a 43mm diagonal. Neat.Makes sense from so many angles. New market from the P&S upgraders, neatly uses the vintage C_Mount glass for the enthusiasts, easy step up to DX and FX as the death of the mirror becomes inevitable.Almost tempted to get one and some c-mount glass. Probably would, if the fast AF glass wasn't here for m43. But it is, so it's an easy choice to stay with m43.But this will work really well for Nikon, now and in the long term. Good job!
Beautiful body for c-mount lenses, should be no vignetting at all. This will also be Nikon's ticket into the video market. Watch the price of good vintage c-mount lenses go up!
pcblade: The apertures of the three lenses are terrible, no incentive to jump on the Nikon's bandwagon...
Have to agree with you, no reason to buy this over the smaller m43. I would jump on one of these bodies if I found a good cheap stock of c-mount lenses tho! They should have gone all out for wide aperture to maximise the impact.
cyclicredundancy: No mention of cold temperature performance?
Good article, and I like that it refers us to do our own research before buying, won't date that way.One thing not mentioned: remove the battery if your camera is affected by water! Otherwise serious corrosion begins in the circuit boards. Don't replace the battery until you are sure the drying process is complete.The comment about humidity isn't flippant, I had a small P&S die on a hunting trip. It was in a waterproof jacket pocket, but the jacket was breathable, so I was pumping warm humid air into the pocket on a snowy day. Fried camera, although my son is using it now: it came right after 3 years of being stored!
I really enjoy the framing of the background scene using the window frames, there are another 3 standalone photos in there. Great work, especially if that was the intention!