Waterengineer: If sensor size maters then why is the medium format (MF) camera industry basically dead? Why isn't there a consumer MF camera if sensor size matters?
Is the MF camera industry basically dead?
How did you work that out?
Because your neighbours' kids are not playing with them in their backyards?
Deleted pending purge: Seems like there is no more sense in discussing usefulness of anything that appears on the market, because as long as there are people ready to buy anything, anything will be sold.
...and the trash commercialism-trash consumerism loop is neatly closed.
GURL: Only Burma, Liberia and the United States have not adopted the International System of Units units as their official system of weights and measures.
In the United States metric units are not commonly used outside of science, medicine and the government. The United Kingdom has officially adopted a partial metrication policy, with no intention of replacing imperial units entirely. (from Wikipedia)
As a result, since Germany is no more the leading camera manufacturer, we can't relate image sizes (expressed in "video camera tube inverted inches") and lenses (which focal length is expressed in milimeters because German lens manufacturers are still highly praised.)
This helped Japanese manufacturers to sell point and shoot cameras fitted with microscopic sensors but proportionaly very large front lens elements. That this will not help them explain why images from cameraphones are not good enough could be seen as a revenge of said International System of Units...
:-) Yes, I'm French...
Did somebody ask you if your are French?
Or you are just very happy to be one?
Photography used to be a domain of genuine enthusiasts and artists in the bad old days.
Now it is whatever handed down to the consumers after the engineering nerds have fulfilled their designs under the command of the ad boys and men in suits to maximise profit.
Someone has to harvest the trillion shutter movements a day of the global hunger to take photos.
They all have one element in common.
They are all artfully overrated.
SeeRoy: Q: How have we managed to survive without this?A: Easily.
Actually it would have been easier if we had not heard about it because now I have to spend energy to try and forget it.
JDThomas: I find it interesting that people on this forum sit back and bash every new or different concept that comes along while doing pretty much nothing to further any interesting changes in modern photography.
It may be limited in application, but it's a relatively novel design.
Any interesting ''change in modern photography'' will be an innovation in the philosophy of photography and new ideas in photography as an art form, not a ''relatively novel design'' in technology.
If you think some nerd's gadget is going to do it, you are mistaken.
Tape5: Richin first suggests that ''many who are making cellphone images'' produce work that is ''more honest'', then he goes on to claim that the world needs ''curators'' to show us what is worth seeing in this ''overabundance'' of honest work.
Hallelujah brother. All we need now is a holy man who has been imbued with this divine power to ''curate'' to step forward and tell us distracted citizens what abridged version of truth we need to expose ourselves to.
Send us the bill.
The singular voice of the fellow human better be ignored and not seen at all than to become the ''unseeable'' curated voice that formally loses its existence.
Because then hope remains.
Richin first suggests that ''many who are making cellphone images'' produce work that is ''more honest'', then he goes on to claim that the world needs ''curators'' to show us what is worth seeing in this ''overabundance'' of honest work.
Tape5: Mobile phones place cameras in the hands of thousands who think photography begins and ends with taking pictures.
They are as good as painters who think painting is about pushing your brush into the paint bucket and rubbing it on the canvas.
Sure sometimes it turns interesting. But 99.99999%* of the times it is not even interesting.
*Taking into account all mobile photos taken daily on the planet.
Statistically the same could be said for comments on comments on articles.
Mobile phones place cameras in the hands of thousands who think photography begins and ends with taking pictures.
All this superzoom stuff is a bit passe even for those who wish to photograph things they cannot see.
One monkey finds a fresh branch to grab and all the monkeys in the forest jump on it until it snaps.
If the branch doesn't snap, in a few years we will have 5-12000000 superzooms.
DPR should do an image comparison against the 120,000 dollar Canon 1200mm/5.6.
Doug Frost: That kid is f*cking awesome.
Who is awesome? And why should we care?
The best way to find the small crumbs of truth about any product is to read as many reviews, good, bad, short, long, five stars, one star, three star,........that you have time to read. Then after a few days or weeks of doing this, a strange truth emerges that is YOUR truth.
Truth in any sense is a completely subjective emergent phenomenon. If it was not, everyone would buy the same product.
mehran langari: anythins we like to hear about one thing ,is good an oposit is true ,because my mind dont jodje my mind love hear good things ,then we trust that positive ads
Right on Mehran!
At last someone speaks of the significance of what goes on inside a person's head who is reading a review !
Our minds love hearing good things indeed.
miketala: This report is ids the worst fanboy garbge i cannot believe. MTI is a college for ;arty retrds. I cant blieve that DPR would print so stupid things al the time! duh. Those persons who wrk DPR are totum pole bottom to, but they think they so wiley!!@ theyh contstatn ely remove things i say hear and refuse to let me put up shots my wife. never trust crafty MIT or wiley DPR fanboy. they out to trick you jest like they trick me by make up kit remove dog blimesh.
This is exactly why I keep on coming back to DPR. Gold.
Everyone lies to me. My wife, my kids, my boss, my brothers and sisters. I just found out a few days ago that my father had a first wife before he married my mother and that they both lied to me for decades.
That is what we call education and experience , gradually finding out about all the lies. When you are a kid you are flooded with them, but it only gets marginally better as you get older.
I am happy to pay people to lie to me these days. If someone claims to volunteer the truth, I would rather run.
So bring it on all you gadget reviewers out there.
SRT3lkt: I think he is more talented than some of us.
That is hardly a compliment.
seanpon: Frankly, I prefer good photography to mediocre Photoshop work. I believe that this young photographer would be better served honing his photography skills. He probably has talent but his composite images are just cliches to me.
what is so cliche about a phone in the forest? Sure it would have looked better if the phone was off the hook and hanging on a tree branch with a zebra trying to dial his girlfriend's number in a hurry and as a result having his right hoof stuck in number 5 and a lion visible in the background ( with a Zeiss bokeh ). But give this kid a break, he is only seventeen.
Spectro: Common style/genre among a lot of teen/ early 20s photographers, not sure what it is called. I think they all went to the same school. These younger photographer style gets a lot of view on flickr because they do these shots of self portrait photoshop art. I am a little jealous of this style. Most of my friends are older and can't pull off the youthful innocent look. Most of these young photographers have the entry level camera with kits lens, but do a great job in creativity and photoshop. We sit here talking about having the best camera sensor and lenses. Digital photography or not, they are quite creative. The famous Miss Aniela started off like this (self portrait) and now she is a international photographer. Sara Kiesling is another of this genre.
Yes I agree, I am jealous too. Miss Aniela is a complete genius though. So is Sara Kiesling. I even emailed Miss Aniela and suggested she teams up with Sara but she did not respond. It could have been a turning point in the history of visual arts if they joined forces.