A new sensor, and a very ambitious camera and lens system. Kudos Samsung. If the great specs are borne out by performance and reliability, it should sell for them. One thing I've never understood about Samsung's camera products is their almost total lack of marketing. It stands in stark contrast to their TVs and other electronic goods (- at least as far as I can see in Australia).
I know already that it's not for me. It's aimed at a different sector of the mirror-less market. I'm in the 'small and light' mirror-less camp. With it's 16-50/2-2.8 attached, this camera isn't.
I know this is principally a gear driven site, but I think products like these very exclusive and expensive lenses must lead us to ask whether the gear is more important than who's behind it and what's in front of it. Adams, HCB, Capa - none of them had lenses as good as we have today. Did it matter? An image is more about moment and content than technology.
Rod McD: Can we have them in Fuji XF mount too please? I know Zeiss offer the Touits, but they seemed to have ended the release of any new models in that lineage. I'd appreciate the solid mechanical MF feel and aperture control of these as much as anyone. If they do one in the 85/90/100mm FL - small, no faster than f2, better f2.4 - I'd be in.
I agree with you in relation to the 35mm and the 50mm. They wouldn't have been the FLs I'd have offered as third party alternatives to the Sony/Zeiss 35/2.8 & 55/1.8. I could see more point to either a VWA or the short telephoto FL I suggested. I could certainly make very good use of the latter on my XT1. In any case, Zeiss have made decision.....
Can we have them in Fuji XF mount too please? I know Zeiss offer the Touits, but they seemed to have ended the release of any new models in that lineage. I'd appreciate the solid mechanical MF feel and aperture control of these as much as anyone. If they do one in the 85/90/100mm FL - small, no faster than f2, better f2.4 - I'd be in.
While I'm sure that the KS1 offers real capabilities and the use of Pentax's great lenses, I certainly prefer the design aesthetic of their K5/K3 series.
Thanks DPR for posting these. I'm not going to enter the debates in the preceding posts about whether it's art, photography, useful, pointless or whatever. As far as I'm concerned those debates are pointless because they revolve around classifying these pieces. They simply are as they are, and I simply enjoyed them. Original, different stuff from my own, and entertaining.
Thanks DPR for the round-up.
After experimenting with a few of these reverse folding tripods for travel I've learned a few things. One is that they all rely on the centre column to achieve height - too much so in my view. The other is that five leg sections drive you mad. They might stow away nice and small but they take an age to erect and take down. I've gone back to a more standard design. They're taller without the centre column up and they have fewer leg sections. They don't weigh any more but I have to acknowledge that they don't pack down as small. Tripods are all about compromises.......
Tried one in-store. A well featured camera and a remarkable achievement in miniaturisation, but as slippery as a bar of soap. Why the heck can't Sony add a grip rather than leave it to the aftermarket? Surely it would not make the camera any less pocketable if a grip as deep as the control ring was built in?
I'm getting deja vu......... Why can't at least one camera manufacturer offer a decent WP camera? There seems to be an assumption inherent in these designs that outdoors types aren't interested in IQ or camera controls. The alternative of DSLRs in housings are simply impractical for water sports, climbing, caving, skiing and so on. And the housings are often more expensive than the camera...... Surely there it would be feasible to offer something in between - a decent size sensor (1", APSC?) a fixed high quality zoom lens, raw and reasonable ergonomics?
Why is not having a touch screen a "con"? It's just a statement of fact. It seems that the position being adopted is that all cameras SHOULD have a touch screen. Sure some people like them. There are others who don't. I personally don't want a camera that does have one and this would put the A6000 higher on my list.
Now we need Sigma to build some wide-angle lenses to the same standard. Zeiss need some competition for the 21mm 2.8.
I could potentially have been be interested, but the weight of this new lens seems to undermine the benefits of of using an f4 lens to avoid the sheer bulk of the f2.8 versions. Let's call 980gms a kilogram by the time you put the lens caps on and still more with the tripod mount - so maybe 1200gms. Too heavy........
Interesting camera. The RX100 seems to become more complete every upgrade. It's starting to look attractive. Now why couldn't Canon have put a retracting EVF in the G1X Mark2?
Can we download a camera straight into it or does it need another accessory? And does it take jpegs without compressing them further? And does it take RAW files at all? And why can't somebody make a small tablet & OS with full USB and file management functionality?
Rod McD: I have the G1X Mk1 and enjoyed it for travel and hiking. That's despite agreeing that there are issues with focus distance and AF (which though very accurate, gave slow between shot times). If you accepted these foibles it was a good all-rounder and nothing matched its IQ without actually going to APSC.
I'm not upgrading to the Mk2 despite the improvements. One of the best things about the Mk 1 was that it was a complete stand-alone camera that needed nothing. For me, the absence of a neat built-in EVF is THE killer for the Mk 2. I hate add-on EVFs - they're expensive, easy to forget or lose and block the flash shoe in use. And it's an $1100 camera with its EVF, and at that price it's squarely in MILC territory. I decided to spend more and bought an XT1.
@ chiane... Quite right. So have I. In fact I've done it. But parting with one's dollars is all about choices and preferences. I prefer a built-in VF and eye-level viewing. Adds stability and tends to make a smaller, neater camera than one with an add-on EVF in the flash shoe.
I have the G1X Mk1 and enjoyed it for travel and hiking. That's despite agreeing that there are issues with focus distance and AF (which though very accurate, gave slow between shot times). If you accepted these foibles it was a good all-rounder and nothing matched its IQ without actually going to APSC.
Thanks for posting this shot and the description for your adjustments. I enjoyed the result.
I'm surprised that more people don't use movements. I know TS lenses and TS adapters are expensive and slow photography down to a more contemplative pace, but they just add so much.
The specs look good but no better than any good mirror-less camera. The ergonomics are probably worse. The EVF is an expensive add on. And one would have thought that a premium priced camera would at least be sealed.
The lenses might well be very good but there's only so much can be extracted from a 16mpx sensor. It won't deliver any more than an EM1 or an XT1. If I really wanted to wear the Leica badge, a used M and two or three lenses might be a better deal for the money. I guess I'll have to accept that I'm just not in the target audience........
Hmmmm. Fun maybe BUT........ I used to shoot 4X5". I think a lot of people who (might) buy this camera would find it way more expensive to use than they imagine (at over $10 per E6 shot purchased and processed) and way more difficult (because a 90mm lens with no movements has very little DOF).
If I was going to go back to 4X5" I'd certainly be buying the recommended 90mm Super Angulon, but I'd be mounting it into a decent field camera with all the usual movements.
camerosity: Hey dpreview! How about a Nikon V3 first impressions review? It's a system camera, not a fixed lens point and shoot like the Canon G1X Mark II. I don't know anyone who liked the G1X, it was a dud at introduction. The Nikon 1 series is much more popular. So...prove to me you don't have a massive Canon bias and review the V3!
Huh? It may not have done everything or pleased everyone, but no camera does. Nor was it a dud just because you don't know anyone that liked it. Have a look at the Powershot Forum. There were plenty of good posts from the G1X.