Thanks for posting this shot and the description for your adjustments. I enjoyed the result.
I'm surprised that more people don't use movements. I know TS lenses and TS adapters are expensive and slow photography down to a more contemplative pace, but they just add so much.
The specs look good but no better than any good mirror-less camera. The ergonomics are probably worse. The EVF is an expensive add on. And one would have thought that a premium priced camera would at least be sealed.
The lenses might well be very good but there's only so much can be extracted from a 16mpx sensor. It won't deliver any more than an EM1 or an XT1. If I really wanted to wear the Leica badge, a used M and two or three lenses might be a better deal for the money. I guess I'll have to accept that I'm just not in the target audience........
Hmmmm. Fun maybe BUT........ I used to shoot 4X5". I think a lot of people who (might) buy this camera would find it way more expensive to use than they imagine (at over $10 per E6 shot purchased and processed) and way more difficult (because a 90mm lens with no movements has very little DOF).
If I was going to go back to 4X5" I'd certainly be buying the recommended 90mm Super Angulon, but I'd be mounting it into a decent field camera with all the usual movements.
camerosity: Hey dpreview! How about a Nikon V3 first impressions review? It's a system camera, not a fixed lens point and shoot like the Canon G1X Mark II. I don't know anyone who liked the G1X, it was a dud at introduction. The Nikon 1 series is much more popular. So...prove to me you don't have a massive Canon bias and review the V3!
Huh? It may not have done everything or pleased everyone, but no camera does. Nor was it a dud just because you don't know anyone that liked it. Have a look at the Powershot Forum. There were plenty of good posts from the G1X.
ali alriffai: Everything in this camera is hot but flash syn @ 1/125 is a big downside :-(
Flash sync is slower because the Pentax has a large FP shutter. Other MF cameras use leaf shutter lenses, but these in turn tend to cost more because there's a shutter in every lens. They may also be larger and/or slower.
I've already bought one. I didn't wait for the reviews. It's a great camera. Love the EVF and manual focusing aids. The Fuji standard zoom and 14mm prime are excellent. And it takes almost every DSLR lens ever made. Better still, every FF lens offers some movement on a TS adapter. Very happy.
I'm not a customer for this camera (so maybe I'll never understand the marketing rationale) but I have to confess to being slightly miffed as an Australian. We too are in a bit of a retail downturn. If Sony want to boost sales, why not just reduce the price of the existing model instead of reducing the specs for the regional market?
Looks like an interesting lens. Some of the posts below are amazing. It was announced today, not one has been sold and no-one has seen an image from it. Surely critics and potential buyers alike should wait until we see what the lens's IQ and characteristics look like before passing judgement?
It's not for me. I don't want to go down in sensor size from APSC and I enjoy external controls and a built-in EVF. However, I can see that the 20 fps, high density sensor and a big crop factor will appeal to some. Together with the new long lens maybe those shooting sports or birds could gain a step up in quality from the long zoom bridge cameras but without investing in heavy and expensive DSLR long lenses.
Thanks for this - I'm still waiting to see an XT1 in the hand in Australia......
I suspect you're making a bit much of the issue of the locking button on the ISO dial. I change ISO when the light intensity changes (eg going form indoors to outside and vice versa) or if I make a lens change to a very different FL (eg to bump up shutter speed for a telephoto). It's just not that hard, and I doubt that it's so important from shot to shot when the camera is actually up to your eye. How long does it take - one second, perhaps two? Anyone who so desperately needs that second to grab a shot should have set their camera to an appropriate ISO far earlier. Anything's better than accidental changes.
And as for the inconvenience of gloves... Show me one camera that excels with gloves on. There aren't any. They're all woeful. It's just part of the digital age that they require dexterity to use all functions. This is hardly a fault unique to this camera.
I enjoyed the original G1X, and this offers improvements that will please many people. However, I think I've seen enough to know this one's not for me. The switch away from external controls to a touch screen and the move to an external EVF aren't my thing.
At a very reasonable $799 (IMO) for the feature set plus say $150 for the EVF, a complete Mark II will be around $950. At that price it's competitive with a number of MILCs and dearer than Sony's APSC 24mpx A6000 (with BIEVF and 16-50) also announced today. At that price point I think I'll spend more and get a MILC with BIEVF and a control set I'll enjoy.
Interesting that there's no 'reference' product for an FF camera - DSLR or mirror-less. Pentax execs have stated since the Ricoh takeover that the company is considering FF development and there has been endless speculation about the concept since. I'm not sure what we can deduce from this........ A lot of people have been hoping that 2014 would be the year.......
Rod McD: University of life : Water resistance is better than no water resistance, but..... - All fabric backpacks and bags leak. Sooner or later.- No fabric bag offers crush resistance worthy of the term.- Cameras in a backpack are behind you and on your back.I haven't found a better solution (for me) than hard shell cases, but they aren't perfect either. Only very few models can be worn over the shoulder and opened to work from without putting them down.....
To Andy and others - I'd agree that the briefcase style hard shell cases are more for transport and storage. They're not that good in the field as I inferred in my first post. However, there are a few models (eg the UK 609 Dry Boxes) that are hard shell top loaders that can be worn over the shoulder on a strap and worked from. They're light, gasket sealed, 100% water and dust proof, far more knock and crush resistant than fabric bags and right where you need them. I do use fabric bags when doing general travel, but if I'm hiking for days in wilderness areas or bad weather, I don't think you can go past something like a Dry Box.
University of life : Water resistance is better than no water resistance, but..... - All fabric backpacks and bags leak. Sooner or later.- No fabric bag offers crush resistance worthy of the term.- Cameras in a backpack are behind you and on your back.I haven't found a better solution (for me) than hard shell cases, but they aren't perfect either. Only very few models can be worn over the shoulder and opened to work from without putting them down.....
I've yet to see an XT1 in the hand or any image output, but on the design and specs, it's very easy to like. It really looks like they've got a lot right. And the sealing is a big plus for me. Nice camera.
I can't help but notice that the weight is creeping up. The XE1/2 are 350gms with inbuilt flash. The X Pro 1 is 450gms. The XT1 is 440gms without flash and body plus external flash is probably over 500gms....... getting into light APSC DSLR territory.
The researchers methodology seems to have concerned the short term. I doubt these conclusions in relation to the long term. I've taken photographs most of my life of family and social events. The photographs I have of my father, my brothers and my wife, all of whom have passed away, are precious because they keep my memories alive long term. I'm sometimes surprised when I look through them, that there are moments that I only actively recall when I see them - they jog my mind to recall the situation. I do recall them, so they're buried away in my grey matter, but I don't think my mind would be triggered to think of all those situations if I didn't see the photographs.
Thanks for the review. It looks good, apart from the feet - it needs retractable or (even better) fixed metal points for field use. I'm not sure how the standard rubber/synthetic ends are fixed onto the CF legs, but on the old aluminium models, they'd get pulled off if you pushed the tripod down into sand/ice/mud and then lifted it out.
The 190 is available in a four section leg version as well as the three section one shown here. (No-one ever mentions is how long it takes to put up a tripod with four or even five leg sections (like Sirui) when you're in a hurry. It seems take an age and I recommend buying the three section models unless you're very, very desperate for the space saving.)
I have to acknowledge the lens build quality and IQ, but TBH, I'd have preferred a smaller, slower lens over this one. I see the mirror-less advantage of small size and light weight slipping away a bit here.......it's almost as heavy as the camera body. I'd have been happier with an ILC version of the 23/2 from the X100.
The 27mm pancake isn't a substitute for a 23mm of modest speed. And before someone suggests buying a X100s because I get my preferred lens 'and a body for free' (as several have posted earlier) let's acknowledge that someone interested in light weight kit isn't necessarily wanting to carry two bodies.
Richard Murdey: Assuming that it is now competitive in the autofocus department (and the original was astonishingly awful in that respect) Canon can now go out compete with the NEX5, various PEN models, the tiny GM1, and the new low end Fuji bodies - which is more than can be said for Nikon.
Nikon chose to walk away from that fight, a decision that may have been the right one: at least there are reasons to chose Nikon 1, tradeoffs that may or may not appeal, whereas what Canon is fielding -while competent - cannot be said to have any originality or unique selling point.
I don't think anyone here actually knows whether a more highly specified mirror-less camera would be "bad business" for Canon or Nikon. The assumption lying behind your statement is that such a camera would cause a net reduction of their own sales revenues. That assumption might not be correct. It might indeed reduce their DSLR revenue by a small percentage (given that they're different markets) but might increase revenues gained by selling to customers currently buying from their mirror-less competitors.
Canon did say some time ago that they would announce an M2 in late 2013 and that they'd later offer a more enthusiast-oriented model. Well, the M2 is here, and perhaps the other version is still on the way - albeit rather late....... We'll see.
Interesting. It looks like it's going to be a polarising camera......... Not for me. Still not small, plus I'm not invested in Nikon glass. And 16mpx in an era where 24mpx is almost standard? Yes, yes, I know it's potentially better for light collection, but that much better at the expense of resolution? I guess it depends on your uses......
I wonder if Canon will follow. And Pentax - some of their forum members have been calling for a small bodied retro DSLR for years.