I could potentially have been be interested, but the weight of this new lens seems to undermine the benefits of of using an f4 lens to avoid the sheer bulk of the f2.8 versions. Let's call 980gms a kilogram by the time you put the lens caps on and still more with the tripod mount - so maybe 1200gms. Too heavy........
Interesting camera. The RX100 seems to become more complete every upgrade. It's starting to look attractive. Now why couldn't Canon have put a retracting EVF in the G1X Mark2?
Can we download a camera straight into it or does it need another accessory? And does it take jpegs without compressing them further? And does it take RAW files at all? And why can't somebody make a small tablet & OS with full USB and file management functionality?
Rod McD: I have the G1X Mk1 and enjoyed it for travel and hiking. That's despite agreeing that there are issues with focus distance and AF (which though very accurate, gave slow between shot times). If you accepted these foibles it was a good all-rounder and nothing matched its IQ without actually going to APSC.
I'm not upgrading to the Mk2 despite the improvements. One of the best things about the Mk 1 was that it was a complete stand-alone camera that needed nothing. For me, the absence of a neat built-in EVF is THE killer for the Mk 2. I hate add-on EVFs - they're expensive, easy to forget or lose and block the flash shoe in use. And it's an $1100 camera with its EVF, and at that price it's squarely in MILC territory. I decided to spend more and bought an XT1.
@ chiane... Quite right. So have I. In fact I've done it. But parting with one's dollars is all about choices and preferences. I prefer a built-in VF and eye-level viewing. Adds stability and tends to make a smaller, neater camera than one with an add-on EVF in the flash shoe.
I have the G1X Mk1 and enjoyed it for travel and hiking. That's despite agreeing that there are issues with focus distance and AF (which though very accurate, gave slow between shot times). If you accepted these foibles it was a good all-rounder and nothing matched its IQ without actually going to APSC.
Thanks for posting this shot and the description for your adjustments. I enjoyed the result.
I'm surprised that more people don't use movements. I know TS lenses and TS adapters are expensive and slow photography down to a more contemplative pace, but they just add so much.
The specs look good but no better than any good mirror-less camera. The ergonomics are probably worse. The EVF is an expensive add on. And one would have thought that a premium priced camera would at least be sealed.
The lenses might well be very good but there's only so much can be extracted from a 16mpx sensor. It won't deliver any more than an EM1 or an XT1. If I really wanted to wear the Leica badge, a used M and two or three lenses might be a better deal for the money. I guess I'll have to accept that I'm just not in the target audience........
Hmmmm. Fun maybe BUT........ I used to shoot 4X5". I think a lot of people who (might) buy this camera would find it way more expensive to use than they imagine (at over $10 per E6 shot purchased and processed) and way more difficult (because a 90mm lens with no movements has very little DOF).
If I was going to go back to 4X5" I'd certainly be buying the recommended 90mm Super Angulon, but I'd be mounting it into a decent field camera with all the usual movements.
camerosity: Hey dpreview! How about a Nikon V3 first impressions review? It's a system camera, not a fixed lens point and shoot like the Canon G1X Mark II. I don't know anyone who liked the G1X, it was a dud at introduction. The Nikon 1 series is much more popular. So...prove to me you don't have a massive Canon bias and review the V3!
Huh? It may not have done everything or pleased everyone, but no camera does. Nor was it a dud just because you don't know anyone that liked it. Have a look at the Powershot Forum. There were plenty of good posts from the G1X.
ali alriffai: Everything in this camera is hot but flash syn @ 1/125 is a big downside :-(
Flash sync is slower because the Pentax has a large FP shutter. Other MF cameras use leaf shutter lenses, but these in turn tend to cost more because there's a shutter in every lens. They may also be larger and/or slower.
I've already bought one. I didn't wait for the reviews. It's a great camera. Love the EVF and manual focusing aids. The Fuji standard zoom and 14mm prime are excellent. And it takes almost every DSLR lens ever made. Better still, every FF lens offers some movement on a TS adapter. Very happy.
I'm not a customer for this camera (so maybe I'll never understand the marketing rationale) but I have to confess to being slightly miffed as an Australian. We too are in a bit of a retail downturn. If Sony want to boost sales, why not just reduce the price of the existing model instead of reducing the specs for the regional market?
Looks like an interesting lens. Some of the posts below are amazing. It was announced today, not one has been sold and no-one has seen an image from it. Surely critics and potential buyers alike should wait until we see what the lens's IQ and characteristics look like before passing judgement?
It's not for me. I don't want to go down in sensor size from APSC and I enjoy external controls and a built-in EVF. However, I can see that the 20 fps, high density sensor and a big crop factor will appeal to some. Together with the new long lens maybe those shooting sports or birds could gain a step up in quality from the long zoom bridge cameras but without investing in heavy and expensive DSLR long lenses.
Thanks for this - I'm still waiting to see an XT1 in the hand in Australia......
I suspect you're making a bit much of the issue of the locking button on the ISO dial. I change ISO when the light intensity changes (eg going form indoors to outside and vice versa) or if I make a lens change to a very different FL (eg to bump up shutter speed for a telephoto). It's just not that hard, and I doubt that it's so important from shot to shot when the camera is actually up to your eye. How long does it take - one second, perhaps two? Anyone who so desperately needs that second to grab a shot should have set their camera to an appropriate ISO far earlier. Anything's better than accidental changes.
And as for the inconvenience of gloves... Show me one camera that excels with gloves on. There aren't any. They're all woeful. It's just part of the digital age that they require dexterity to use all functions. This is hardly a fault unique to this camera.
I enjoyed the original G1X, and this offers improvements that will please many people. However, I think I've seen enough to know this one's not for me. The switch away from external controls to a touch screen and the move to an external EVF aren't my thing.
At a very reasonable $799 (IMO) for the feature set plus say $150 for the EVF, a complete Mark II will be around $950. At that price it's competitive with a number of MILCs and dearer than Sony's APSC 24mpx A6000 (with BIEVF and 16-50) also announced today. At that price point I think I'll spend more and get a MILC with BIEVF and a control set I'll enjoy.
Interesting that there's no 'reference' product for an FF camera - DSLR or mirror-less. Pentax execs have stated since the Ricoh takeover that the company is considering FF development and there has been endless speculation about the concept since. I'm not sure what we can deduce from this........ A lot of people have been hoping that 2014 would be the year.......
Rod McD: University of life : Water resistance is better than no water resistance, but..... - All fabric backpacks and bags leak. Sooner or later.- No fabric bag offers crush resistance worthy of the term.- Cameras in a backpack are behind you and on your back.I haven't found a better solution (for me) than hard shell cases, but they aren't perfect either. Only very few models can be worn over the shoulder and opened to work from without putting them down.....
To Andy and others - I'd agree that the briefcase style hard shell cases are more for transport and storage. They're not that good in the field as I inferred in my first post. However, there are a few models (eg the UK 609 Dry Boxes) that are hard shell top loaders that can be worn over the shoulder on a strap and worked from. They're light, gasket sealed, 100% water and dust proof, far more knock and crush resistant than fabric bags and right where you need them. I do use fabric bags when doing general travel, but if I'm hiking for days in wilderness areas or bad weather, I don't think you can go past something like a Dry Box.
University of life : Water resistance is better than no water resistance, but..... - All fabric backpacks and bags leak. Sooner or later.- No fabric bag offers crush resistance worthy of the term.- Cameras in a backpack are behind you and on your back.I haven't found a better solution (for me) than hard shell cases, but they aren't perfect either. Only very few models can be worn over the shoulder and opened to work from without putting them down.....
I've yet to see an XT1 in the hand or any image output, but on the design and specs, it's very easy to like. It really looks like they've got a lot right. And the sealing is a big plus for me. Nice camera.
I can't help but notice that the weight is creeping up. The XE1/2 are 350gms with inbuilt flash. The X Pro 1 is 450gms. The XT1 is 440gms without flash and body plus external flash is probably over 500gms....... getting into light APSC DSLR territory.