Craig Atkinson: Mine's coming today. For years I've used Ricoh - nothing else like them [even though they never really seem to show up on this site]. Is there anyone here with Ricoh GRD*? Does the XR100 have any kind of snap function / zone / hyper focus option? Or is the AF really that fast that you don't ned it? The ability to focus at say 3m - ∞ would surely be a great thing to have.
I'm assuming you can prefocus while in MF mode, and then shoot at an aperture that'll give you sufficient DOF. The sensor is relatively small compared to APS, should work nicely.
adegroot: Even at just 200 ISO, the smearing is amazing! Nice impressionistic painting tool. Not very impressed, to say the least.
Yeah, only looking at 100% crops from a 20MP P&S isn't very smart, to say the least.
HBowman: Yea ... this is just a 20 Mp point and shoot, no more.
6/10 average troll.
highwave: After having a look at the IQ of the RX100 I personally concluded the same things I did about it when I looked at the IQ on the Imaging Resource Website. Namely:
Lens isn't sharp at the edges and not terribly impressive anywhere else either
Surprisingly noisy images at low ISO
Surprisingly low noise images at high ISO
Overall noise signature of this sensor is very beautiful
Colors get washed out very quickly as ISO rises
The sensor does not outperform the old 12MP m43 sensor. It doesn't even out perform the Nikon 1 sensor. At least not in color retention in high ISO. You can forget about competing against more modern m43 sensors or even APS-C sensors.
More than happy to hear other thoughts on this (except people claiming the RX100 has a 3 full stop noise advantage over the 12MP m43 sensor. Yeah you know who you are)
Don't look at 100% crops.Remember how big the camera(and thus lens) is.Remember how big the sensor is.
When you take the above into account, all your observations are to be expected.
DPR are just giving the camera a controversial rating to boost page hits.
The results speak for themselves.Sony really have outdone themselves ito upping their game over the last 5 years...
This will be my next p&s.
johnsaxon: Here I go again. Is anyone listening? This camera will not focus close up except at the widest focal length of 28mm. When you zoom to 35mm or 50mm ALL CLOSE UP FOCUSING IS GONE. The minimum focus distance at 50mm is 15.5" whereas my Canon S95 will focus down to about 3.5 inches at 50mm. The Sony will only focus down to 19.5 inches at 100mm, the Canon S95 focuses to 9 inches at 105mm.I bought a Sony RX100 and had to return it when I discovered that it had virtually no close focusing ability. I use this type of close focusing every day with my Canon and cannot live without it. OK, everyone enjoy your new RX100! just don't try to focus on anything too close to the camera. And remember that nobody else but you is having this problem, even people who paid about $75 for their little point and shoot.
The increase in minimum focusing distance is proportional to the increase in sensor size, over the Canon, you'll find.
If a shorter minimum focussing distance is more important to you than a larger sensor, then the Canon would be a better choice for you.
Cheezr: Kudos to Nikon for being first with the next gen compact.Who woulda thunk it?
Now just give us a Sony RX100 with Android!
Jens_G: Sony Nex with Android, please!
No wait, scratch that, Sony RX100 with Android! Dream P&S!
Sony Nex with Android, please!
Sony RX100 with Android, please!
If this phone ran WP7 I would've been all over it...
Reg Natarajan: I love the images, but I need Android. Hopefully Samsung and Sony will step up.
My biggest gripe with Android is the lack of a dedicated shutter button.If the 808 ran WP7 I would've been all over it.
johnsaxon: Just got a new RX100 yesterday. It's nice but has what may be a deal-killer flaw. When you try to close-focus at anything but the widest angle the lens suddenly becomes very un-macro, forcing you to back way up. I don't know about you, but I consider it very important to be able to close-focus while being somewhat telephoto-ed out. For one thing, if you can only focus close at the widest angle setting you are right on top of whatever you're shooting and your shadow is on top of it. My Canon S95 has no problem doing macro with the telephoto, so I guess I'm spoiled. Honestly, the user-friendliness of the Canon trumps whatever advantages the Sony may have in Megapixels or aperture. ATTENTION, DP REVIEW: please tell us what the minimum focusing distances are at ALL ZOOM LEVELS. What good is it to have this super-detailed review if you're going to leave out something so essential?
@johnsaxon, the increased minimum focus distance is a direct result of having a larger sensor. Lens design is all about compromises.
Ok, so what we have here is essentially a Sony Nex, with a slightly poorer sensor, less lenses, and on-sensor PDAF that doesn't work very well.
I really like the 35mm-equivalent pancake (it's missing from the Sony line-up, and only due in 2013).
If the PDAF actually gave good AF performance, and if the sensor was a bit better, I would've been all over this camera.
Alexander Shp: Disappointment...
Why?Because we have here:1.Phase Detect = not bad;2.Price = not good;3.Basically nothing more or less interesting...
except that at the moment PDAF isn't really working, apparently.
Jefftan: Is Canon the next Kodak?Thinking it is safe with it's dominant position and fail to take competitors like Sony seriously
If someone say otherwise please tell me how is this better than NEX in any single wayI can't even see even one improvement over NEX
There are 2 things:1) On-sensor PDAF2) 35mm equivalent pancake.
The Nex cameras are better in every other respect.
BoyntonBlade: If I'm ever in the market for an ugly poor mans version of the NEX 7, i'll be all over this camera.
Just get one of the cheaper Nexes?
BoyntonBlade: This makes me want to sell my NEX.
No really. LOL
Why?Even 1st gen Nexes have better sensors, Nex by now also has a much bigger range of lenses. Nex has a tilting screen, etc.
The only thing this Canon has that I'd like on Nex is a 35mm equivalent pancake.
Total Nex ripoff (but sensor probably not as good).Just confirms that Sony had it right from the start.
I am jealous of the 35mm equivalent pancake though. Sony needs a 23mm pancake, stat.
1/2.33" sensor, ROFLOLOL