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DPR are just giving the camera a controversial rating to boost page hits.
The results speak for themselves.
Sony really have outdone themselves ito upping their game over the last 5 years...
This will be my next p&s.
johnsaxon: Here I go again. Is anyone listening? This camera will not focus close up except at the widest focal length of 28mm. When you zoom to 35mm or 50mm ALL CLOSE UP FOCUSING IS GONE. The minimum focus distance at 50mm is 15.5" whereas my Canon S95 will focus down to about 3.5 inches at 50mm. The Sony will only focus down to 19.5 inches at 100mm, the Canon S95 focuses to 9 inches at 105mm.
I bought a Sony RX100 and had to return it when I discovered that it had virtually no close focusing ability. I use this type of close focusing every day with my Canon and cannot live without it.
OK, everyone enjoy your new RX100! just don't try to focus on anything too close to the camera. And remember that nobody else but you is having this problem, even people who paid about $75 for their little point and shoot.
The increase in minimum focusing distance is proportional to the increase in sensor size, over the Canon, you'll find.
If a shorter minimum focussing distance is more important to you than a larger sensor, then the Canon would be a better choice for you.
Cheezr: Kudos to Nikon for being first with the next gen compact.
Who woulda thunk it?
Now just give us a Sony RX100 with Android!
Jens_G: Sony Nex with Android, please!
No wait, scratch that, Sony RX100 with Android! Dream P&S!
Sony Nex with Android, please!
Sony RX100 with Android, please!
If this phone ran WP7 I would've been all over it...
Reg Natarajan: I love the images, but I need Android. Hopefully Samsung and Sony will step up.
My biggest gripe with Android is the lack of a dedicated shutter button.
If the 808 ran WP7 I would've been all over it.
johnsaxon: Just got a new RX100 yesterday. It's nice but has what may be a deal-killer flaw. When you try to close-focus at anything but the widest angle the lens suddenly becomes very un-macro, forcing you to back way up. I don't know about you, but I consider it very important to be able to close-focus while being somewhat telephoto-ed out. For one thing, if you can only focus close at the widest angle setting you are right on top of whatever you're shooting and your shadow is on top of it. My Canon S95 has no problem doing macro with the telephoto, so I guess I'm spoiled. Honestly, the user-friendliness of the Canon trumps whatever advantages the Sony may have in Megapixels or aperture. ATTENTION, DP REVIEW: please tell us what the minimum focusing distances are at ALL ZOOM LEVELS. What good is it to have this super-detailed review if you're going to leave out something so essential?
@johnsaxon, the increased minimum focus distance is a direct result of having a larger sensor. Lens design is all about compromises.
Ok, so what we have here is essentially a Sony Nex, with a slightly poorer sensor, less lenses, and on-sensor PDAF that doesn't work very well.
I really like the 35mm-equivalent pancake (it's missing from the Sony line-up, and only due in 2013).
If the PDAF actually gave good AF performance, and if the sensor was a bit better, I would've been all over this camera.
Alexander Shp: Disappointment...
Why?
Because we have here:
1.Phase Detect = not bad;
2.Price = not good;
3.Basically nothing more or less interesting...
except that at the moment PDAF isn't really working, apparently.
Jefftan: Is Canon the next Kodak?
Thinking it is safe with it's dominant position and fail to take competitors like Sony seriously
If someone say otherwise please tell me how is this better than NEX in any single way
I can't even see even one improvement over NEX
There are 2 things:
1) On-sensor PDAF
2) 35mm equivalent pancake.
The Nex cameras are better in every other respect.
BoyntonBlade: If I'm ever in the market for an ugly poor mans version of the NEX 7, i'll be all over this camera.
Just get one of the cheaper Nexes?
BoyntonBlade: This makes me want to sell my NEX.
No really. LOL
Why?
Even 1st gen Nexes have better sensors, Nex by now also has a much bigger range of lenses. Nex has a tilting screen, etc.
The only thing this Canon has that I'd like on Nex is a 35mm equivalent pancake.
Total Nex ripoff (but sensor probably not as good).
Just confirms that Sony had it right from the start.
I am jealous of the 35mm equivalent pancake though. Sony needs a 23mm pancake, stat.
1/2.33" sensor, ROFLOLOL
1singur: the next logical step for a compact would be the android-compact-camera. just imagine the apps, filters and whatnot!
Apps, filters, internet connection, direct upload to Facebook, Flickr, Dropbox.
jj74e: I don't understand the point of pancake design for DSLR. It's not like the rest of your system isn't already big? Why not just make it a little bigger and put in IS or something?
Is this Canon's way of going mirrorless without going mirrorless? ;)
Of course, I'm not saying it doesn't or won't appeal to anyone. The aperture could be bigger, but given the price, I guess it works out.
Another advantage is that it's less intimidating/conspicuous, which can be an advantage.
topstuff: 40mm is a lovely length on FF.
Pop that puppy on a 5D series camera ( classic, 2 or 3) and you would have a relatively compact camera with amazing IQ.
Nice to see Canon copying Pentax !!
Can't wait to try it on my Eos 3 :)
toomanycanons: Did all the major camera makers get together and agree to be done with viewfinders? Is their consensus that us buyers don't want them (WRONG) or what?
I love my DSLRs, don't find them too bulky, love their IQ and versatility. A camera such as this Sony comes along, looks great...but alas, no viewfinder so I immediately cross it off my list of potential next buys. Pentax just did that as well. What gives?
IT'S A POINT AND SHOOT FOR GOODNESS SAKe.