UnitedNations: As expected only a poor 1% increase in score over the X-E1. Which I think is still overly generous ...because the 'newer' X cameras(X-e2, X-t1, X100s) all have major problems with their JPEG engine.
The 'newer' Fuji X cameras not only render their JPEGs in an unnatural waxy way, but even bigger problem is that their JPEGs have severe limitations in Dynamic Range. This is a problem which was NOT present in the X100, X-Pro1, & X-E1.Simply speaking the JPEGs are nearly unusable in the 'newer' Fuji X cameras IF you are coming from the early X cameras.
It is Fuji's free choice to suddenly make their X cameras into mostly 'RAW Shooting ONLY' cameras, but I am not sure if people who bought Fuji's early X cameras will be happy & be willing to buy the 'newer' X cameras knowing that the usability of the JPEGs has been significantly deteriorated.
@ Dave LuttmannWow. You sound HURT. Fanboys usually get Hurt for nothing.
No they are not the same. The default settings are different & the 'newer' X cameras( X100s, X-t1, X-E2) all need extra tweaking in JPEG & still cannot get the level of DR to match the older X-cameras in JPEG. That is why people who have bought the newer X cameras now mainly use their cameras mostly in RAW. They realise the JPEG is lacking & realise that there are limitations to the level they can revive it to acceptable high level as seen in the older X cameras.
If you can get decent photos from your JPEGS from the newer X cameras, then it must only mean that you are a person who is easily satisfied & can live with mediocre picture outcomes.
As expected only a poor 1% increase in score over the X-E1. Which I think is still overly generous ...because the 'newer' X cameras(X-e2, X-t1, X100s) all have major problems with their JPEG engine.
Such a sad news for JPEG shooters. The overall score is only '1' point better than the X100S which got 81% Gold Award.
Wonderful Raw performance in a small body...but the pathetic JPEG performance is very disappointing.
...And the Score of only 82% while being three times more expensive than the X100S is just not acceptable.
Is this guy using a 50mm lens?
tbcass: Why do manufacturers make the mirrorless cameras look like they have an SLR prism? One thing you used to see in the early days of digital was manufacturers trying to get away from the traditional style of cameras but these days they tend to be very conservative with "retro" styling holding sway.
I think it is because the view finder hole has to be placed above the back LCD... & if the hump was not there adding a big viewfinder like this would not be possible. Form follows function.
It is indeed a beautiful camera... but I will hold off buying one until I see the X-pro2.
Hopefully X-pro2 comes with high performance EVF like the x-t1 & at least have 24 megapixels resolution, & have noticeably better Image Quality than the X-e2/X-t1/x100s(which are all the same). I would like to have something better than the X-e2/X-t1/x-100s in image quality.
Also, the new phones coming out now like the Galaxy will have 16mp resolution cameras. Although a proper camera can't be compared to a phone camera.... it still bothers me that a phone would have the same or higher picture resolution than my camera.
Hope Fuji delivers with the X-Pro2 flagship & distinguish it from the X-t1/ X-e2/X100s in image quality...
ijustloveshooting: lower IQ than 24mp nikon aps-c sensor, not different than my 5N but the price of an A7....this camera is extremely priced for what it offers in terms of IQ...
"lower IQ" ?
Does lower mp than Nikon aps-c mean "lower IQ" to you?
Are you new to Photography?
Andrew ATM216: When I saw these pictures, my mouth dropped in disbelief of the kind of pictures that were taken. The strength of the fujifilm cameras is the great ooc jpegs....on the other hand, most of these pictures (or at least the first 20 pictures) are of buildings and rocks, etc). How does that convey the strength of the camera???? Where are the pictures of people so we could see the SKIN TONE?
So, yeah, I wholeheartedly agree that these pictures are a dis-service to the capability of this highly praised camera...and if I were to make my decision of getting this camera based on these photos, I would definitely say, nooo waaay....
The same quality pictures could have been taken with a phone camera....so, really why would I spend 2 grand for??? In other words, these pictures do not convey or demonstrate the strength of the camera at all...
These (LOUSY) pictures are being posted as samples for thousands of people to see....to show how capable the xt1 is...wow!!! What a shame....
Andrew, Why are you being rude? There are always nicer way of saying things.
It's a damn computer!
Who will buy the X-E2 now?!
UnitedNations: A7 = Unacceptable jpeg & other issues that you just cannot overlook at this price point.
People are not going to buy this A7(r) as a backup camera. So these shortcomings revealed in this review are unacceptable.
Waiting to see what dpreview thinks about the A7R's shutter vibration issue & some other problems already spreading across the internet photography forums.
Sony's first attempt with compact mirrorless FF is commendable... but it is turning out to be a messy first attempt.
@quezraI am sorry the 'recent' reviews including this one has disappointed you very much & that you are HURT by my unfavourable 'recent' comment about the A7.Unfortunately, many 'recent' body of reviews reveals problems that were not mentioned in the small body of 'early' reviews. 'Early' reviews reported of superior & improved JPEG engine so it was natural for me to write the comment which you have quoted.
Seeing that you have to stalk me(looking into all of my past comments) & make an exaggerated issue with an 'OLD' & now 'irrelevant' comment that was made in a different sea of information seems that you are the ugly troll here & is very HURT by all the bad reports coming up about the A7. Cheer up my boy!
And grow up.
A7 = Unacceptable jpeg & other issues that you just cannot overlook at this price point.
AlpCns2: All (camera) manufacturers make some good and some less successful products. That includes Sony.
Yet, I see the s**tstorm still continues. Why DPR accepts such comments -or sees any value in it- is beyond me. It seems that after thousands of years of technical development and evolution we are back at square one:
Kill the messenger. Off with his head!
Even in the face of irrefutable evidence people defend their pet brand/camera/lens as if it was something precious, sacred, and completely irreplaceable. Many cameras, lenses, filters, heck even simple accessories such as neck straps have flaws. Sometimes real big ones, sometimes small niggles.
It is the DUTY of any capable and honest reviewer to find, test, quantify, verify and report about all design success and flaws alike. Get over it, or simply ignore it. But don't kill the messenger.
That's sooo primitive and, frankly, disgusting.
There are more important things in life than getting emotional over dpreview comments.
Go take a nap.
Unacceptable JPEG performance.
People are desperate to see your review of the Fuji X-e2.
So Nikon messes up with the DF, ... & then Sony messes up too with the A7,....& now it seems our ONLY HOPE for 2014 camera shopping rests with how much Fuji can deliver with the X-T1... how exciting....+_+
Basically this is a mess up by Sony just like Nikon messed up with the faulty DF.I never felt this happy in my whole life for not buying a product. I am glad I waited for this review.
A7 is a camera with some very disappointing weaknesses.Hope the A7r is better!
I AM SO GLAD I DID NOT BUY THE SONY A7!
If you cannot avoid blurry photos with 1/60 in the A7... just imagine how blurry the A7r would be.
JPEG performance is really eye opening for sure.
Gesture: We're really going backward in camera design and ergonomics with these retro cameras. Just being made complicated in a different way, in fact duplication of controls.
having the three basic/fundamental dials on top(Exposure,Shutter,ISO) is not going backward in design.Ergonomically speaking these three controls including the Aperture control dial should have never ever been embedded in the electronic menu in the first place.