tennjed: Olympus has to be jumping for joy. Aside from 4k, I can't see where Panasonic has done anything to pull at Oly's business.....Except maybe that population of OMD/EP owners who are thinking: "Geez, I wish my camera was significantly larger."
The improvement in image quality is certainly a possibility, but an increase to 20 megapixels is likely not going to result in significant image quality improvement. At any rate, it had better be significantly improved as it is now competing with A7II in the size department; and at $1200, it is not too far behind in the price department.
Skipper494: Too heavy, too large, too pricey and despite the EVF and slightly larger sensor, the BSI-CMOS sensor in my Samsung EX-2F will probably out perform it for a lot less money..
The strength of this camera is the overall image quality. To my eyes, the images are truly outstanding if you resist the urge to pixel peep.......Which, admittedly, is a hard thing to do these days.
Its kind of funny, I find that, when I initially take and image, it difficult to resist the pixel peeping urge; but, after the image is several months old, and I go back to look at it again, I am better able to appreciate the image as a whole, and less inclined to examine it at the pixel level. I think the x30 stands up well as a result of this phenomenon.
I would not complain if Fuji were to put it on a diet and move back to x10/20 dimensions. Everything else can remain the same.
I've owned the camera from a couple months after introduction. For some unknown reason I put the thing in the drawer and quit using it regularly. The other day, while culling old images on my computer, I came across some images that, on second look, were extraordinarily pleasing- when viewed without pixel peeping. I could not remember which camera I used to take the shots and was surprised/pleased to see that they were from the x30. What makes them exceptional is the fact that they were the only shots from a camera having a sensor less than APS-C size.
Fuji did hit a home run with this camera. I am carrying it with me again.
(unknown member): Still looks small compared to Fuji rangefinder style bodies... But weather-sealed! I don't know why people are complaining about the size of this. Obviously better weather protection means you can't cramp things in as easily.
It's kind of funny, I have never looked at, or even considered the A6000 camera; but as Sony competitors bring out new cameras, and new iterations of existing cameras, and the comparisons to A6000 are presented, the urge to check out A6000 gets stronger. It makes a strong case for Sony design, engineering, and marketing. And.... A6000 is like...what,?....less than half the price of this new Panasonic.
david vella: ALL these moanining minnies , what a lot of nonsense is being peddled about the GX8
Panasonic/Olympus are to be applauded for making such a broad based system with M4/3s - something for everybody size,/weight, stills or video and 4K plus great lenses and at all price levels. No other brand matches this universal appeal.
And yet , moan,moan, moan. The GX8 is another welcome addition in my book, and the price will drop.
Commenting is not the same as moaning. I own a GX7 and pretty much like it. Size and price are not aspects of the GX7 that are displeasing. Poor EVF resolution, inferior IS, and lack of weather sealing are. It is not a sin, or even unreasonable, to express disappointment that Panasonic- as is their habit with GX cameras- takes a basically good camera and alters the next generation to the point where it is an entirely different camera. For some, it is disappointing. And justifiably so.
Olympus has to be jumping for joy. Aside from 4k, I can't see where Panasonic has done anything to pull at Oly's business.....Except maybe that population of OMD/EP owners who are thinking: "Geez, I wish my camera was significantly larger."
tennjed: It is as if Panasonic marketing does things specifically to spite customers. I have, and love, the GM1.....When I can use it, which is any time there is no sunshine in the area. I was hoping for the GM5, or something similar, since purchase of the GM1. Now, Panasonic decides they are not going to sell this interchangable lens camera, body-only. I do not need, and will not pay for, another identical kit lens. At a bare minimum, they should offer a kit version with the newer 35-100 lens.
It is probably foolish for me to rant here. My purpose is to make Panasonic aware of the fact that I- a loyal Panasonic customer- want a body-only option for this camera. How insane must I be to think that Panasonic would monitor a consumer based site like DPreview?
Thanks, maybe there is hope for me.
It is as if Panasonic marketing does things specifically to spite customers. I have, and love, the GM1.....When I can use it, which is any time there is no sunshine in the area. I was hoping for the GM5, or something similar, since purchase of the GM1. Now, Panasonic decides they are not going to sell this interchangable lens camera, body-only. I do not need, and will not pay for, another identical kit lens. At a bare minimum, they should offer a kit version with the newer 35-100 lens.
tennjed: I own the Gx1 ($299 new) and the Gx7 ($749 new) and cannot figure the purpose of this particular camera.
When all is considered, the GM1, with kit lens, is smaller than the GX1; but it is really no more "pocketable" than the GX1 with the 14 2.8. The Gx1 is far and away the most convenient small camera I have ever owned. It is as if Panasonic hit the mark dead center when it comes to access of every important control a photographer could ever want. It's brilliant.
I had an opportunity to examine and try the GM1 at a local camera shop and came away wondering why Panasonic did not spend the development money/time on adding a few desirable features to the Gx1. For instance: an electronic shutter; a tilting LCD; a better LCD; a front control dial; WIFI connectivity. Instead, we get a smaller- but not small enough- camera that is missing important features.
If you are considering this camera, and are attracted to it for portability, I recommend you hunt down a GX1.
I did ultimately by the GM1. Now, several months on, I realize it really offers no practical advantage for me. It is not a bad camera, and there are several features I do like; but it is almost unusable in bright sunlight. If only it had some way to add an OVF.
Now, with the introduction of the GM5- with EVF- I am once again reminded of how idiotic I am when it comes to impulse buying. I should have seen it coming.
Owning the GM1, and the kit lens that came with it, and struggling with the fact that there is no good option for use of the camera outside on a sunny day, I am pretty disappointed by the fact that there is no body-only option. I'm not going to buy that 12-32 a second time.
I purchased the X30 yesterday-could not resist-and find that, generally, I do like it better than the X20.
I am having a problem with the Fn6 (Wifi) button in that it is extremely hard to get the thing to work. First of all, you have to depress it with a lot of force to get it to work; and then, it sometimes will not work at all when some functions, e.g. ISO, are assigned to it. At first I thought it might be physically damaged, as it does not protrude from the camera body surface like all of the other buttons; but then I noticed that the button in the DPR photos does not protrude either.
Also, I am having difficulty getting Wifi to work with my IPhone (Yes, I have loaded the Fuji App)
Are any other X30 owners having these problem?
I appreciate the images.
The whole v3 thing is getting kind of weird here in Midwest of U.S.. I know this is an exaggeration, but, it seems like the camera debuted last year; I have yet to see one anywhere. I don't even know of anyone who has seen one. Seems like Nikon is usually pretty good about getting things in the stores, once they are announced. Its like they are having second thoughts on distributing the thing.
I own the Gx1 ($299 new) and the Gx7 ($749 new) and cannot figure the purpose of this particular camera.
burnymeister: I think people are missing the point on this camera. $1200 isn't that bad when you consider what you're getting. For under $3k you can get a system that covers the focal range of 18-800mm with pretty good features and small enough to fit in a backpack.
How is this not a great thing? 800mm in any other system will either result in a horrible unbalanced mess or $11k just for the lens and will be so heavy you won't hike it anywhere. This is the first time I'm interested in the 1 series. I think Nikon's finally coming through.
I agree that the extended telephoto capability is nice. Even somewhat unique. However, suggesting that the system is worth more money because of it is like suggesting that Michelin tires are worth more money because they are black.
I have had the A7 for about two weeks. I guess ignorance is bliss as I have not been bothered with any of the problems mentioned. The thing takes great photos and is fun to use.
The shutter is a bit loud; the fact that the A7r is louder yet, keeps me from considering moving up to that model. Is the electronic front shutter something that can be addressed through firmware?
sderdiarian: Olympus Imaging has been stunted for a long time now, and not by the Yakuza but by poor product decisions. When others went to video and 3" hi-res LCD's in their DSLR's, Olumpus introduced the E-30/E-620 sans both. As others upped sensor design for broader DR/higher ISO capabilities, Olympus stubbornly stuck with an inherently noisy older design. And now, as large displays have become common even in compacts and especially cellphones, the new E-PM/E-PL3 retreat to a 2.4" usable area display.
I love their lenses, their JPEG colors and IBIS which should be in every camera. But they always manage to trip themselves up. Nothing to do with Yakuza or shady investment schemes, just bad product planning. This is why they need new management to rescue Imaging.
As for Woodford, he simply did what any person in his position should, saw potentially criminal activity and brought in the authorities. Don't shoot the messenger.
I agree wholeheartedly. The EP3 was the camera for me if it had the articulated LCD. The choice to present this feature on the EPL3 and not the EP3 defies understanding. Now I own an NEX5n.
A few years back, the president of Ford stated: "We are not in financial trouble because of accounting issues, we are in trouble because we do not build cars that people want to buy."